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wEight_Tanker #21 Posted 05 December 2019 - 08:29 PM

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View PostTomotorqemada, on 05 December 2019 - 07:30 PM, said:

i mean - well yeah but then people should come up with designs. i did not put TOO much of an effort in that search for a new japanese line, but i can expect that not every nation had a really huge variety. but im totally pro that.

 

Apologies, but I really did not understand a thing you just said.



ValkyrionX #22 Posted 05 December 2019 - 09:01 PM

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more russian tanks? pls no

demon_tank #23 Posted 05 December 2019 - 11:34 PM

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View PostTomotorqemada, on 05 December 2019 - 06:30 PM, said:

Thats a strange perspective, yours. Thats exactly how it worked - there was always military intelligence, and all the improvements achieved by the 'potential enemy' are sooner or later copied or improved or taken into account. Moreover, its not my fantasy - its literary what is said in the intro to that tank group, that "one of the features in need for improvement was gun depression". problem--> solution.

We re talking about the game though. Not real life war or espionage.

 

We dont need to have millions of Russian tanks.

 

And if the Russian tech tree can do it all then whats the point of other nations ?



Tomotorqemada #24 Posted 05 December 2019 - 11:42 PM

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Well that s a suggestion=)) but i kinda searched for that purposely and found kinda exactly what i was lookin 4, im surprused WG went past this somehow
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View Postdemon_tank, on 05 December 2019 - 11:34 PM, said:

 

 

And if the Russian tech tree can do it all then whats the point of other nations ?

Well the tanks still are different. And (to some extent) those are real tenks too, so kinda having other nations just cos they had tanks. Mind u, it s not that many tankproducing countries left out, esp. in historical perspective. 

Moreover the sacrifices to the balance are huge alrdy - not only tank parameters but like 1937 kv1 meerting amx elc from what, 1950-s? in the same tier...

Again, more tenks is gud in general, and rather than making up some tenks from Mars (or bringing cars in) better take what is there for granted. Not our fault Soviets did so many projects. Talented people...

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View PostwEight_Tanker, on 05 December 2019 - 08:29 PM, said:

 

Apologies, but I really did not understand a thing you just said.

Previoisly to my search for gundepressed soviet tenks which gave me these Morozov tenks as result, i was trying to make up a new japanese tech line, so i tried to look up some jap tenks. The resilts were really scarce, tho mb my effort had been not that exhausting

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View PostBordhaw, on 05 December 2019 - 07:56 PM, said:

 

Are you asking or telling ? 

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Robbie_T #25 Posted 06 December 2019 - 01:30 AM

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No more Russian tanks!

We need some updates on the German lines.

 



LCpl_Jones #26 Posted 06 December 2019 - 02:02 AM

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you know, that's what i think when i play wot.

 

needs more [edited]op RASHA!!!!11!!!1111!!!1!!1!!!!!1! in the game

 

it's a yes from me



Gardar7 #27 Posted 06 December 2019 - 08:24 AM

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I'm happy about all the new lines, so yes. But in my opinion they should add more maps or rework current ones at first. I know, it is not that urgent as it doesn't bring much €. Or, if they are planning to add a new line, then add it to nations with only a few branches, like Japanese, Cz/Sk, Sweden, Poland, Italy. I would be happy about a new nation as well - Hungary, for example. 

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How about fixing some of existing Tech tree lines first.

 

Start off by fixing the Russian Tech tree - Obj268V4, Obj430, Obj430U adding some proper frontal weak spots.

Sort out the  Chinese Med line T8 and upwards - T-34-3 with pref MM has more frontal turret armor than the T9 WZ120 ..... T-34-2 needs reworking to bring it inline with the Type 59 and T-34-3

German historic heavies need buffing or down tiering.

Low Tier tech trees could do witn cleaning up.

 

The maybe consider another Russian Medium line, not like the Russian med lines don't already have a lot of diversity though is it.

 



rush0620 #29 Posted 06 December 2019 - 09:19 AM

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Soviets have 3 tier 10 medium, 3 heavy tier 10, only 2 tier 10 TD, why another mediums? Not enough 3?

 

Missing Soviet tanks in game!

Su 152P

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Su 152G (Object 108)

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Object 120 Taran

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rush0620 #30 Posted 06 December 2019 - 09:31 AM

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Object 268V3 like Object 268V5 premium tank in game

Object 268V3

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Su 203 like 203 mm gun

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This game has *MORE* then enough Russian tanks and Russian tank clones.

 

It's time to flesh out other nations further which are still missing Light, Medium, Heavy or TD branches.

 

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Corsz #32 Posted 06 December 2019 - 10:10 AM

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View PostTomotorqemada, on 05 December 2019 - 04:44 PM, said:

could u give a link? mb they are considering the Cedar already indeed

 Yep. I am talking about that video and misterious tank in a bulb.

 

https://youtu.be/7WzAyv7yCTg



Tomotorqemada #33 Posted 06 December 2019 - 01:17 PM

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View Postrush0620, on 06 December 2019 - 09:31 AM, said:

 like Object 268V5 premium tank in game

 

 

well v5 is already built into the game, at least i was able to train my female crew for that tank

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View PostCobra6, on 06 December 2019 - 09:44 AM, said:

This game has *MORE* then enough Russian tanks and Russian tank clones.

 

It's time to flesh out other nations further which are still missing Light, Medium, Heavy or TD branches.

 

Cobra 6

 

View PostRobbie_T, on 06 December 2019 - 01:30 AM, said:

No more Russian tanks!

We need some updates on the German lines.

 

im really pleased that the main and almost the only argument against is that the tenks are russian. its like the antirussian bias of the forum should compensate for the alleged russian bias ingame xDDD

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View Postrush0620, on 06 December 2019 - 09:19 AM, said:

 only 2 tier 10 TD, why another mediums? Not enough 3?

 

Mind you, the last one in that Morozov list is a TD, and a principially new one in many regards, at least 4
as for the existing meds, some are obsolete. esp in the face of OP stuff like 907

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View PostGixxer66, on 06 December 2019 - 08:59 AM, said:

How about fixing some of existing Tech tree lines first.

 

 

 

The maybe consider another Russian Medium line, not like the Russian med lines don't already have a lot of diversity though is it.

 

im surprised u dont mention "remove the automobile tech line from the game" xDDD

 

diversity much i havent seen sorry



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View PostTomotorqemada, on 06 December 2019 - 12:17 PM, said:

 

diversity much i havent seen sorry

 

Maybe take your Russian tinted glasses off then, and take a look at the tech tree. Follow the A44 line up, not the same style of medium  as the T-44>T62A / Obj140 line, or the T-44>Obj430U.

 

Do i really need to go through each line for you see that the Russian medium lines that are currently available are already diverse?

 



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no thanks, the less russian bias tanks in this game the better.

pihip #36 Posted 06 December 2019 - 03:30 PM

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This stuff could be low-mid tier material in AW, it doesn't belong in WoT.

Still a good attempt though. :great:

nc30_guy #37 Posted 06 December 2019 - 08:11 PM

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Too modern.

 



Tomotorqemada #38 Posted 07 December 2019 - 01:23 AM

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View PostGixxer66, on it.

 

To all russia haters

https://en.m.wikiped...cles_by_country

Go there and be creative)))  i d love to find a new tech line elswhere

 

View PostGixxer66, on 06 December 2019 - 01:41 PM, said:

 

Maybe take your Russian tinted glasses off then, and take a look at the tech tree. Follow the A44 line up, not the same style of medium  as the T-44>T62A / Obj140 line, or the T-44>Obj430U.

 

Do i really need to go through each line for you see that the Russian medium lines that are currently available are already diverse?

 

No u dont, it'impossible. For u sandwich with salami and sandwich with tuna a diverse sandwiches. To me that is monotonous food.

View PostCobra6, on 06 December 2019 - 09:44 AM, said:

 

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Tomotorqemada #39 Posted 07 December 2019 - 08:49 PM

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View Postnc30_guy, on 06 December 2019 - 08:11 PM, said:

Too modern.

 

Even next to sweden and others alike?  I mean noone obviously gives a flying about history, as long  as tanks are 'balanced' - sometimes even with fake stats, like super pershing to 1 side and su130 to the other



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View PostTomotorqemada, on 07 December 2019 - 08:49 PM, said:

Even next to sweden and others alike?  I mean noone obviously gives a flying about history, as long  as tanks are 'balanced' - sometimes even with fake stats, like super pershing to 1 side and su130 to the other

The Swedish ones are from the 50s and 70s, afaik, so I don't see how that is an issue.

And as most others have pointed out, most of us aren't happy to see more soviet tanks.

 

Personally, I think that some of them are going to have some major balancing issue.

 






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