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Poll: Gold ammo (127 members have cast votes)

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Do you want WG to completly remove gold ammo?

  1. Yes (57 votes [44.88%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 44.88%

  2. No (70 votes [55.12%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 55.12%

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Temugin #1 Posted 09 December 2019 - 12:49 PM

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My games are moslty ruined by gold ammo users. So I want to see how many of you have the same problem.

Koriin #2 Posted 09 December 2019 - 12:55 PM

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Yes I am all for complete removal as it will make it easier to balance the game.

And for all the people that always react to a suggestion like in the poll with the suggestion that it will make the game completely unbalanced (for a while), isn't that what the testserver/sandbox server is for?

 

On the other hand, I understand that a complete removal will not/never happen, so I stopped caring about it/hoping for it too much.



ChristOfTheAbyss #3 Posted 09 December 2019 - 12:55 PM

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Not a problem. If I play paper tank, then them firing prem means nothing. If I play armoured tank, then them firing prem means they've made right choice and I missplayed by letting them shoot me.

 

Prem ammo is needed as long as there are tanks that can't be penned otherwise.



Miller1973 #4 Posted 09 December 2019 - 12:59 PM

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If removed it would render a lot of tanks obsolete overnight unless they did a huge rebalance of other stats to compensate.

Richthoffen #5 Posted 09 December 2019 - 01:02 PM

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revert it to for gold only and the spam will disappear, however I doubt premium ammo is the main reason your gameplay is ruined

Jethro_Grey #6 Posted 09 December 2019 - 01:08 PM

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Ahhh, the Weekly Gold ammo thread. 

 

Voted no, because it won't do anything good if overarmored tanks stay in the game. 

Remove Gold ammo? Ok, then Change all tanks so that even a two Tier lower tank can deal with a two Tier higher tank frontally. 

Otherwise there's no point. 

 

Also, i'm pretty sure that premium ammo isn't the only thing that ruins OPs games. 



Joggaman #7 Posted 09 December 2019 - 01:31 PM

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Balc0ra #8 Posted 09 December 2019 - 01:39 PM

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Considering a majority would pen me with normal ammo, or even overmatch me regardless in the tanks I play. I'm gonna say no. 

 

And what do you think will happen if gold ammo is removed with no normal ammo rework? It just replaces one issue with another. And gives power were we don't want it.


Edited by Balc0ra, 09 December 2019 - 01:40 PM.


NUKLEAR_SLUG #9 Posted 09 December 2019 - 01:40 PM

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View PostTemugin, on 09 December 2019 - 12:49 PM, said:

My games are moslty ruined by gold ammo users. So I want to see how many of you have the same problem.

 

If you are a tank with no armour then anything that's hitting you is going to pen anyway. In fact you should be hoping they do fire gold at you in your light tanks because HEAT rounds at least stand a chance of being absorbed harmlessly by your spaced armour.  If you are a tank with armour that standard rounds cannot penetrate then loading gold is the correct ammo choice to make.

 

If WG removed gold ammo they would have to rebalance armour to suit standard pen at which point good players are still going to be spanking rounds through your weakpoints and killing you better than you are able to do it to them.

 

TL;DR You are a 48% player because that's how good you are, not because of gold ammo. 



Ceeb #10 Posted 09 December 2019 - 01:48 PM

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View PostTemugin, on 09 December 2019 - 11:49 AM, said:

My games are moslty ruined by gold ammo users. So I want to see how many of you have the same problem.

 

Think it was 2012 they removed Ammo for gold, but hey.

 

What I do like about your post is the detail in how to remove it and balancing tanks, 

 

But I'll give you a point and like for using Ghengis Khans real name.



Gixxer66 #11 Posted 09 December 2019 - 01:50 PM

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View PostTemugin, on 09 December 2019 - 11:49 AM, said:

My games are moslty ruined by gold ammo users. So I want to see how many of you have the same problem.

 

Are they though, unless you saying that you wouldn't be penned by normal ammo ever then i doubt it.

 

No doubt you never fire "special ammo" which is why you have 635 Average Damage at an average tier of 7.82 in the last 30 days.

 

While ever there's +2 / -2 MM, and tanks that can only be penned with "special ammo" then it's going to stay, and needs to stay as a balancing factor. Bottom tier in a 3 v 6 at the end of the game vs higher tiers, should I just roll over or should I do everything I can to win.

 

 



TankkiPoju #12 Posted 09 December 2019 - 01:51 PM

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Kind of scary 25% or so people vote "Yes"...

 

Do you people realize if WG removed gold ammo, everyone would just play heavy tanks all day and shoot HE against each other?  And tiers 6-7 would be completely ruined by tier 8 heavies like Defenders and VKP, because lower tiers cant pen those tanks at all with regular rounds.



ChristOfTheAbyss #13 Posted 09 December 2019 - 02:01 PM

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View PostTankkiPoju, on 09 December 2019 - 01:51 PM, said:

Kind of scary 25% or so people vote "Yes"...

 

Do you people realize if WG removed gold ammo, everyone would just play heavy tanks all day and shoot HE against each other?  And tiers 6-7 would be completely ruined by tier 8 heavies like Defenders and VKP, because lower tiers cant pen those tanks at all with regular rounds.


Would play 279 a lot more. Only TDs could pen me, sometimes.



JCD3nton #14 Posted 09 December 2019 - 02:04 PM

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They should just make all ammo cost the same instead.

splash_time #15 Posted 09 December 2019 - 02:05 PM

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 Dear OP,

Most of the replies cover my post, but did you really think twice before starting this thread? 

If your games are ruined by gold ammo now, they'll be ruined by super heavy armoured tanks after removing gold ammo. :/

So how you expect your team to destroy a 279 when it rush? Or a chief behind a ridge? By looking at it? Or by spitting on it? 

 

WG is already working to balance the different shell types to make the game balanced. So wait a little longer and it'll be solved. 

 

Greetings! 

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TankkiPoju #16 Posted 09 December 2019 - 02:13 PM

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View PostChristOfTheAbyss, on 09 December 2019 - 02:01 PM, said:


Would play 279 a lot more. Only TDs could pen me, sometimes.

 

Yeah but you would have to fight against all those E100s and Mauses firing regular AP against you. Your 279e would be in real danger then!



Sael_ #17 Posted 09 December 2019 - 02:20 PM

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Don't mean to bring too much disappointment but I don't think we will ever remove special ammo altogether, it's an essential part of the game. We regularly rework mechanics to keep the gameplay fresh, but I don't think this suggestion will ever be implemented. That of course doesn't mean that the gameplay won't improve over time anyway. The devs are always working to offer you the best game experience, it just takes long time to introduce big changes. :)

ChristOfTheAbyss #18 Posted 09 December 2019 - 02:27 PM

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View PostSael_, on 09 December 2019 - 02:20 PM, said:

Don't mean to bring too much disappointment but I don't think we will ever remove special ammo altogether, it's an essential part of the game. We regularly rework mechanics to keep the gameplay fresh, but I don't think this suggestion will ever be implemented. That of course doesn't mean that the gameplay won't improve over time anyway. The devs are always working to offer you the best game experience, it just takes long time to introduce big changes. :)

 

"We regularly rework mechanics to keep the gameplay fresh"

 

I dont think regularly means what you think it means.



splash_time #19 Posted 09 December 2019 - 02:31 PM

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View PostChristOfTheAbyss, on 09 December 2019 - 04:27 PM, said:

 

"We regularly rework mechanics to keep the gameplay fresh"

 

I dont think regularly means what you think it means.

 

Ofc it means!  WG's regularly mean from 1 week up to 3 months. :) 

Btw, the "regularly" time depends a lot on the dev team mood.



ChristOfTheAbyss #20 Posted 09 December 2019 - 02:42 PM

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View Postsplash_time, on 09 December 2019 - 02:31 PM, said:

 

Ofc it means!  WG's regularly mean from 1 week up to 3 months. :) 

Btw, the "regularly" time depends a lot on the dev team mood.

 

Last time mechanic were changed it was the stun. Its been years after it.






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