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Grindeldore #541 Posted 02 January 2020 - 02:08 PM

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https://www.youtube....h?v=fPxzzFTkp5U

In the video description you find a sheet, that calculates the odds prices how to set the holidron decorider... if u havent unlocked everything yet.

Edited by Grindeldore, 03 January 2020 - 09:35 PM.


RSAC #542 Posted 03 January 2020 - 12:13 AM

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How can you do the missions that require victory? I only get the bots and [edited]these holidays...

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View PostGrindeldore, on 02 January 2020 - 02:08 PM, said:

https://www.youtube....h?v=fPxzzFTkp5U

In the video description you find a sheet, that calculates the odds how to set the holidron decorider... if u havent unlocked everything yet.

 

What is very important to mention, is that not always such calculations reflect real odds, thus one has to take that into account.

 

View PostRSAC, on 03 January 2020 - 12:13 AM, said:

How can you do the missions that require victory? I only get the bots and [edited]these holidays...

 

One has to lose for other one to win.



Grindeldore #544 Posted 03 January 2020 - 09:33 PM

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Well yes, the sheet - as its designed yet - calculates the interations to get a specific decor with 75% chance (formular: log base 0.25 of 1-x | x compares the sets of found and searched decor). The interations then get multiplied with the decorider-price minus the shard-refund.

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View PostRSAC, on 02 January 2020 - 11:13 PM, said:

How can you do the missions that require victory? I only get the bots and [edited]these holidays...

 

Just play your own game and do the best you can, and hope and pray to whichever imaginary friend that you call holy that your teammates aren't a bunch of gibbering loons who can't find their own asses in the dark without the aid of a map, compass, torch, and written instructions...

 

View Postparim1331, on 03 January 2020 - 10:59 AM, said:

One has to lose for other one to win.

 

But why is a 'win' requirement necessary at all for these missions?

 

If a mission was just 'win a battle' then sure, fair enough, that requirement on its own is okay, but most of these missions are already pretty grindy because of the other requirements they have, so all the 'win' requirement does on top of those other requirements is take a players individual performance in each battle completely out of the equation and puts everything in both the hands of the players teammates AND to a lesser extent in the hands of the games god-awful matchmaking process when it makes you mid/bottom tier for 12-14 painful games in a row.

 

View PostGrindeldore, on 03 January 2020 - 08:33 PM, said:

Well yes, the sheet - as its designed yet - calculates the interations to get a specific decor with 75% chance (formular: log base 0.25 of 1-x | x compares the sets of found and searched decor). The interations then get multiplied with the decorider-price minus the shard-refund.

 

75% chance of crafting a duplicate I presume you mean, providing you don't use an anti-duplication charge?

 

Speaking of which, the anti-duplication charges are a nice addition WG, thank you for that, but why not just make the decorider perform like the dogtag crafting tool, where crafting duplicate dogtags was impossible even on the random setting. That would be a reasonable change to the Holiday Ops event considering the disparity in price between crafting an item and its actual shard value, as well as the limited number (about 755 this year) of small boxes that are available across the whole duration of the event.


Edited by Flint_74, 03 January 2020 - 10:29 PM.


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:justwait:HAPPY:girl:NEW :bajan:YEAR!!!:)

PS. I love Snow Maidens! <3 <3 <3

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_Kuky_ #547 Posted 08 January 2020 - 12:50 PM

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I am pretty sure that this albums cannot be completed unless you buy some boxes with real money. It was conceived that way from the start.

I played almost all days of this event and took all boxes available and I am still at 335 of 380 decorations. That is with using shards heavily to make more V level decorations.



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View PostFlint_74, on 03 January 2020 - 10:18 PM, said:.

 

[...]

But why is a 'win' requirement necessary at all for these missions?

 

If a mission was just 'win a battle' then sure, fair enough, that requirement on its own is okay, but most of these missions are already pretty grindy because of the other requirements they have, so all the 'win' requirement does on top of those other requirements is take a players individual performance in each battle completely out of the equation and puts everything in both the hands of the players teammates AND to a lesser extent in the hands of the games god-awful matchmaking process when it makes you mid/bottom tier for 12-14 painful games in a row.

 

[...]

 

Certainly not every mission has "Win a battle" as a condition. 



Cheezix #549 Posted 08 January 2020 - 02:02 PM

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View Post_Kuky_, on 08 January 2020 - 12:50 PM, said:

I am pretty sure that this albums cannot be completed unless you buy some boxes with real money. It was conceived that way from the start.

I played almost all days of this event and took all boxes available and I am still at 335 of 380 decorations. That is with using shards heavily to make more V level decorations.

 

So this is proof that some players can get lucky with the level V decorations in small boxes and can finish all collections without spending a cent! Also the event isn't over yet, because there are still 5 more days left.



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yeah sure, there is probably a 5% chance to finish this album for free. But it was conceived as a bait to buy boxes for money. WG greediness as usual

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View Post_Kuky_, on 08 January 2020 - 02:56 PM, said:

yeah sure, there is probably a 5% chance to finish this album for free. But it was conceived as a bait to buy boxes for money. WG greediness as usual

 

I agree the loot boxes are greedy, but the festive level and decorations are just another way to monetize a free-to-play game.


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Mr_Deo #552 Posted 08 January 2020 - 11:47 PM

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View Post_Kuky_, on 08 January 2020 - 01:56 PM, said:

yeah sure, there is probably a 5% chance to finish this album for free. But it was conceived as a bait to buy boxes for money. WG greediness as usual

 

Not sure you can complete it for free.

Misision wise, I have completed everything free except for two "new year bustle part 7", the mission seems to be bugged and sometimes doesn't count victory in top 10.

Still missing 1 large decoration, received 2 (one duplicate) from boxes... Snow Maiden rarely gives anything above tier 1..

I have 318 out of 380.  Missing 8 level 3's!, 17 level 4's.  The 36 level 5's will be hard to fill.  I'll probably craft the 3's directly, but no way I can complete the 5's.

It would be nice if the Snow Maiden would give you something random that you haven't had yet.  People who purchased 11 or more of the premium boxes should be able to complete it i think.  As usual tho, RNG has probably let some players complete it for free, and others who purchased 100 boxes still be far away.


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Sixense #553 Posted 12 January 2020 - 02:25 PM

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View PostMr_Deo, on 08 January 2020 - 10:47 PM, said:

Misision wise, I have completed everything free except for two "new year bustle part 7", the mission seems to be bugged and sometimes doesn't count victory in top 10.

 

That's because if  you read the mission descriptions, it says you have to be top 10 of the team by damage dealt on a victory :)


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So, when is the last day we will be able to get small boxes? And when is the last day that we will be able to craft any missing ones? is it January 13? Should I get all decoration off my Christmas tree to brake it and get shards? Or will the 50% bonus continue to the end of the month?

 



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View Postmihari, on 12 January 2020 - 05:18 PM, said:

So, when is the last day we will be able to get small boxes? And when is the last day that we will be able to craft any missing ones? is it January 13? Should I get all decoration off my Christmas tree to brake it and get shards? Or will the 50% bonus continue to the end of the month?

 

Wondering the exact same... 



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View PostDevon77, on 12 January 2020 - 06:47 PM, said:

Wondering the exact same... 

 

Break all the decorations after you last battle tonight, the 13th, or before 6:00 tomorrow (the 14th), use the shards to complete the remaining albums or craft any remaining decorations left :great:

 

Next Xmas you'll be able to complete the unfinished albums.



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Doubt you can complete the albums for free but the decorations to get to festive level 10 I think is doable.

Cannot prove it as I bought boxes.

Have played every day and got the maximum number of boxes I could get.

 

I have counted all the shards I have plus those I can get for stripping everything and it comes to 22 tier 5 decorations assuming I craft specific tier 5s for 1080 shards each.

I can definitely complete one more album the other 2 would take a load of lucky crafts and then the last few anti randomisers

There are also Mondays 17 boxes but I am not expecting much from them , 39 boxes today added nothing to the albums.



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View PostSixense, on 12 January 2020 - 01:25 PM, said:

 

That's because if  you read the mission descriptions, it says you have to be top 10 of the team by damage dealt on a victory :)

 

That explains it lol....

 



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View PostGremlin182, on 13 January 2020 - 01:16 AM, said:

Doubt you can complete the albums for free but the decorations to get to festive level 10 I think is doable.

Cannot prove it as I bought boxes.

Have played every day and got the maximum number of boxes I could get.

 

I have counted all the shards I have plus those I can get for stripping everything and it comes to 22 tier 5 decorations assuming I craft specific tier 5s for 1080 shards each.

I can definitely complete one more album the other 2 would take a load of lucky crafts and then the last few anti randomisers

There are also Mondays 17 boxes but I am not expecting much from them , 39 boxes today added nothing to the albums.

 

If you purchased boxes you should be able to complete (depends on how many you purchased I guess).

 

I was a bit unsure about it, but been looking close at my numbers.

 

I need 7 level 3's, 17 level 4's, 27 level 5's.

~4200 shards should be required to get level 3 and 4 done,

17 of the 27 Level 5's can use the anti-dupe (Yay).

Breaking what is placed should get back 5900 shards.

17 Level V using anti-dupe would see shards go up in value by 2550.

Earning day 13th boxes should yield about 1200? So like... I should have 13k shards to craft the 10 missing level 5's.

I think it's doable - Luck and RNG willing.

 


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View PostMr_Deo, on 13 January 2020 - 03:40 AM, said:

 

If you purchased boxes you should be able to complete (depends on how many you purchased I guess).

 

I was a bit unsure about it, but been looking close at my numbers.

 

I need 7 level 3's, 17 level 4's, 20 level 5's.

~4200 shards should be required to get level 3 and 4 done,

17 of the 20 Level 5's can use the anti-dupe (Yay).

Breaking what is placed should get back 5900 shards.

17 of the 20 using anti-dupe would see shards go up in value by 2550.

Earning the 13th boxes should yield about 1200? So like... I should have 13k shards to craft the 3 missing level 5's.

I think it's doable - Luck and RNG willing.

 


On the first day I got the festive level to 5 I think and the very next day I bought 75 Lunar boxes that got me instantly to lvl 10 and all rewards.

I wanted to get to level 10 right away so the Bonuses to XP Free XP and Crew XP would be running for the entire event and I also had the credit bonus to something like 43%.

Very soon after that it was 47% and now its at 50%, ok it cost me £85 but the credits are flying in.

 

Have potentially 24,160 shards plus whatever I get from Mondays boxes and I have 12 antirandomiser devices left.

New year album I want to complete needs 2 tier 3 2 tier 4 and 5 tier 5s

Lunar is complete.

Magic needs 2 tier 4 and 12 tier 5

Christmas needs 3 tier 4 and 12 tier 5

 

I can complete the album I want without spending anything more so that's fine.






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