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Will the AMX ELC ever be good again?

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Poll: Will the AMX ELC ever be good again? (28 members have cast votes)

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Should it be buffed?

  1. Yes (15 votes [53.57%])

    Percentage of vote: 53.57%

  2. No (13 votes [46.43%])

    Percentage of vote: 46.43%

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Bobo_LOL #1 Posted 11 December 2019 - 01:17 PM

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After the AMX ELC nerf back in 2017 the tanks have lost almost all reason to play it. It was by far my favorite tank until the nerf and I had more fun than I have had in any other tank. I understood it needed a nerf but for god's sake make it fast again. Does anyone else agree or not?

SoupFork #2 Posted 11 December 2019 - 01:57 PM

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gun nerf was reasonable since it's mm spread was reduced, but the mobility nerf needlessly killed it.

They might make one a tier higher special reward premium tank that's slightly better than the tech tree one but still only a pale shadow of its former self.



Gixxer66 #3 Posted 11 December 2019 - 02:00 PM

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Not unless they are going to buff every other tracked light tank in the game, and while they are at it give my VK28.01 it's Derp Gun back.

 

oh and add a Premium Awful Panther.



Bobo_LOL #4 Posted 11 December 2019 - 02:04 PM

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I agree that the gun nerf was needed but the speed nerf was in my opinion unnecessary.

SoupFork #5 Posted 11 December 2019 - 02:12 PM

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View PostGixxer66, on 11 December 2019 - 02:00 PM, said:

Not unless they are going to buff every other tracked light tank in the game, and while they are at it give my VK28.01 it's Derp Gun back.

 

oh and add a Premium Awful Panther.

 

I loved the Alphabet Panther! Had some great games in it. And yes, Derp on VK28 was bliss. Most fun game I had in it was on Glacier, racing around and derping enemies in the rear.


Edited by SoupFork, 11 December 2019 - 02:12 PM.


HassenderZerhacker #6 Posted 11 December 2019 - 02:17 PM

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View PostBobo_LOL, on 11 December 2019 - 01:17 PM, said:

After the AMX ELC nerf back in 2017 the tanks have lost almost all reason to play it. It was by far my favorite tank until the nerf and I had more fun than I have had in any other tank. I understood it needed a nerf but for god's sake make it fast again. Does anyone else agree or not?

 

AMX ELC is not bad now... not what it has been, but not bad either



TankkiPoju #7 Posted 11 December 2019 - 02:18 PM

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AMX ELC was never good. Fight me.

 

It was a meme tank and super fun to play, but it actually never was a good tank.



BR33K1_PAWAH #8 Posted 11 December 2019 - 02:19 PM

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I liked current ELC. Played with pew-pew gun, had quite a few fun battles. It's quite ok in it's current state.
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View PostTankkiPoju, on 11 December 2019 - 04:18 PM, said:

AMX ELC was never good. Fight me.

 

It was a meme tank and super fun to play, but it actually never was a good tank.

 

It was a platoon tank - two T67, excuse me, Hellcats  and AMX ELC. Good luck fighting them in IS-3 on Malinovka  :trollface:


Edited by BR33K1_PAWAH, 11 December 2019 - 02:22 PM.


24doom24 #9 Posted 11 December 2019 - 02:35 PM

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All it needs is a ground resistance buff. Anything that isn't hard ground and you're about as a fast a medium or even worse a heavy.

Mr_Burrows #10 Posted 11 December 2019 - 02:36 PM

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It has a cult like following for a reason, but it is dead and will never come back. 

RockyRoller #11 Posted 11 December 2019 - 02:46 PM

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I had not realised it was nerffed, but I had thought power creep had ruined its advantages and play style so I voted no mostly because passive spotting means a WV can run up and see you with little hassle. The team wont be able to kill it before it sees you and that passive spotting was the ELC strength. The WV fires fast, loads and hits more often than the ELC so you can't even save yourself in a 1v1. Then of course your ELC acceleration is awful so the campers get you even if the WV doesn't.
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View PostTankkiPoju, on 11 December 2019 - 01:18 PM, said:

AMX ELC was never good. Fight me.

 

It was a meme tank and super fun to play, but it actually never was a good tank.

 

actually it was good at fighting sometimes, but you needed the right factors in your favour. Open area with no campers, a speed faster than the targets turret rotation making the reload time not a problem. Only thing to fear then was a red that looked at the minimap and turned back just to help a team mate. = rare

 

nm I was thinking of the other ELC


Edited by RockyRoller, 11 December 2019 - 02:51 PM.


splash_time #12 Posted 11 December 2019 - 02:53 PM

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Where's my options? I would vote for "Maybe"! 

No one can predict WG's moves, like what they once did to artys, i'm speaking about the good old AP & HEAT release, they buffed then nerfed then nerfed them again and again, and now? Go check sandbox, they are bringing them back with different shape/system. :)


Edited by splash_time, 11 December 2019 - 02:54 PM.


RockyRoller #13 Posted 11 December 2019 - 02:53 PM

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The tier 5 ELC required specialised play. You were either great at it or not. It was my impression WG caved in and let the 90mm gun stay as 3rd research but keep the new gun for the second research?

SovietBias #14 Posted 11 December 2019 - 03:07 PM

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Don't worry, sometime in the future it will be introduced as a premium one tier higher, a bit like Hellcat and KV-122mm.

Krazy_Kalle #15 Posted 11 December 2019 - 03:14 PM

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Two options missing:

 

3. I don't care

4. I think it's fine

I just recently played it and I think it's okay, there are way worse tanks. I easily unlocked the two following tanks and I'll keep the tank just in case, don't know what the drama is all about.



Dramya #16 Posted 11 December 2019 - 03:14 PM

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I haven't played the ELC Bis pre-nerf so I don't know how it was, but I must say I enjoyed this tank (nearly 3 marked it I think).

In my opinion you have to forget a bit that you are a light tank, especially with the 90mm (which is horrible imo). You have a pitiful viewrange, lacking mobility and low radio-range, but you can hide like a boss and you can stay undetected with ease if you stick with passive spotting and if you can refrain from shooting.

As for the argument of the wheeled vehicle outmatching the ELC, yes in a brawling match the ELC will loose but because of the camo values the WV has little chance of spotting you unless he proxy-spots you, and you should have been able to see him coming.

And did I say the top gun sucks? Horrible aimtime and accuracy and not fully rotating turret means you rarely hit a target unless you are directly next to your target. Use the 75mm.

NekoPuffer_PPP #17 Posted 11 December 2019 - 03:20 PM

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It should recieve an HP buff like all tier 5 and below tanks after the big HP/ammo rebalance WG is working on so there's at least something to look forward to.

 

(note I'm personally against the rebalance because the obvious reason is nerfing prem ammo damage and I think they should do exactly that, not buff everything else)



shikaka9 #18 Posted 11 December 2019 - 03:27 PM

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do you think what i think? :trollface: wheeled elc amx ... as far I remember I read somewhere it had roadwheels version 

snowlywhite #19 Posted 11 December 2019 - 03:27 PM

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it's an excellent tank.

 

provided you play with the top gun; with the other, meh, it is some generic t5 light. Maybe it works with the 75(?), but totally bland.

 

you outspot everyone in your tier, you hit like a truck and you're extremely hard to hit given the accy/player quality in that tier. Really... what would you want more?



I_Gutmensch_Deluxe_I #20 Posted 11 December 2019 - 03:29 PM

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I loved ELC... all the WN8 he gave to me...





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