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Laatikkomafia #1 Posted 11 December 2019 - 07:50 PM

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Meanwhile T32 still stands at 320, while being in a desperate need of buffing. As is the Tiger II.

 

But hey, let's add new premiums and "wait for the Sandbox to fix balance issues Da Da"



Oldewolfe #2 Posted 11 December 2019 - 07:59 PM

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Did you ever consider these Adjusted Damages on these Newer Tanks could possibly BE some of the Forth Coming Ammo Changes...????

 

I mean, maybe not All of them, but it seems Possible considering what we've been Seeing lately....     Stranger things have Happened you know...



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View PostOldewolfe, on 11 December 2019 - 07:59 PM, said:

Did you ever consider these Adjusted Damages on these Newer Tanks could possibly BE some of the Forth Coming Ammo Changes...????

 

I mean, maybe not All of them, but it seems Possible considering what we've been Seeing lately....     Stranger things have Happened you know...

 

Tiger 2 is untouched for years, no excuses.



Dava_117 #4 Posted 11 December 2019 - 08:22 PM

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View PostOldewolfe, on 11 December 2019 - 07:59 PM, said:

Did you ever consider these Adjusted Damages on these Newer Tanks could possibly BE some of the Forth Coming Ammo Changes...????

 

I mean, maybe not All of them, but it seems Possible considering what we've been Seeing lately....     Stranger things have Happened you know...

 

Not really. On Sandbox server 105-107mm guns on tech tree had 390 alpha. It's just blatant powercreep.



fwhaatpiraat #5 Posted 11 December 2019 - 08:23 PM

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I saw the E75 TS got 360 alpha as well. With a better RoF than the Löwe to make the difference in dpm even bigger.

Stevies_Team #6 Posted 11 December 2019 - 08:24 PM

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Yet another 105mm gun with 360 alpha

 

Semantics I know, but I thought there was only one of those in the game

 

aha

The new German cheesepanzer has one!

 

Edit

I'm intruiged about weight

 

Cheeze panzer 80 tons

Turret 230 120 80

Hull 120 80 80

 

Renegade 50 tons

Turret 250 140 40

Hull 152 76 38

 

So is this 30 ton discrepancy all the sausages that the Germans are carrying for lunch??

With so much sausage in the cabin shell racking should be a bit harder


Edited by Stevies_Team, 11 December 2019 - 08:45 PM.


Dava_117 #7 Posted 11 December 2019 - 08:25 PM

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View PostStevies_Team, on 11 December 2019 - 08:24 PM, said:

Yet another 105mm gun with 360 alpha

 

Semantics I know, but I thought there was only one of those in the game

 

Nope. Renegade have 360, Emil got 360 too and now E75TS.



fwhaatpiraat #8 Posted 11 December 2019 - 08:26 PM

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View PostStevies_Team, on 11 December 2019 - 08:24 PM, said:

Yet another 105mm gun with 360 alpha

 

Semantics I know, but I thought there was only one of those in the game

Emil 1, Japanese tier 9 and 10, Renegade...



Dava_117 #9 Posted 11 December 2019 - 08:29 PM

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View Postfwhaatpiraat, on 11 December 2019 - 08:26 PM, said:

Emil 1, Japanese tier 9 and 10, Renegade...

 

Well, if we consider tier 9 and 10, Standard B and Progetto65 got 360 too. But on those tier 105mm guns have 390 alpha, so it's lower than standard compared to Emil and the new tier 8 premiums where is sensibly higher than standard.



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360 feels good for some reason...

 

You still have a competitive RoF, and get 400-ish rolls every now and then. It's kinda nice.

 

Yes, buff the T32 and Tiger II, they just get chewed up in today's meta.



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View Postskero, on 11 December 2019 - 08:02 PM, said:

 

Tiger 2 is untouched for years, no excuses.

 

Because... there is no point buffing it now. And them render it useless when the gold ammo change comes etc. So they need to buff it again. Tiger II along with the E100 has been locked for reworks once the gold ammo chance is locked in.

 

 

 

 

 

 



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View PostLaatikkomafia, on 11 December 2019 - 06:50 PM, said:

Meanwhile T32 still stands at 320, while being in a desperate need of buffing. As is the Tiger II.

 

But hey, let's add new premiums and "wait for the Sandbox to fix balance issues Da Da"

 

What do you care? You don't even play WoT anymore. 



TankkiPoju #13 Posted 11 December 2019 - 09:03 PM

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View Postfwhaatpiraat, on 11 December 2019 - 08:23 PM, said:

I saw the E75 TS got 360 alpha as well. With a better RoF than the Löwe to make the difference in dpm even bigger.

 

It's also pretty fast for a heavy tank.



strv_varjager #14 Posted 11 December 2019 - 10:49 PM

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View Postskero, on 11 December 2019 - 08:02 PM, said:

 

Tiger 2 is untouched for years, no excuses.

 

What to do with Tiger II anyway, more turret armor and lower reload?



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View PostBalc0ra, on 11 December 2019 - 08:52 PM, said:

Because... there is no point buffing it now. And them render it useless when the gold ammo change comes etc. So they need to buff it again. Tiger II along with the E100 has been locked for reworks once the gold ammo chance is locked in.

 

Tiger II only needs a DPM buff to be pretty good tank. WG could give it the Caernarvon treatment.



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View PostLaatikkomafia, on 11 December 2019 - 07:50 PM, said:

Meanwhile T32 still stands at 320, while being in a desperate need of buffing. As is the Tiger II.

 

But hey, let's add new premiums and "wait for the Sandbox to fix balance issues Da Da"

Agreed on the T32. Just finished the grind two weeks ago and the standard 198 pen is so meh, I mainly played the tank in Frontline to prevent facing T9s and T10s. And I refused to go with the stock gun & full gold loadout. This tank only needs its pen buffed. The rest of the stats I could live with as is



Jauhesammutin #17 Posted 12 December 2019 - 10:38 AM

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View PostStevies_Team, on 11 December 2019 - 07:24 PM, said:

Yet another 105mm gun with 360 alpha

 

Semantics I know, but I thought there was only one of those in the game

 

aha

The new German cheesepanzer has one!

 

Edit

I'm intruiged about weight

 

Cheeze panzer 80 tons

Turret 230 120 80

Hull 120 80 80

 

Renegade 50 tons

Turret 250 140 40

Hull 152 76 38

 

So is this 30 ton discrepancy all the sausages that the Germans are carrying for lunch??

With so much sausage in the cabin shell racking should be a bit harder

Did you ever consider that the weight might come from the size of the tank? You know a 1 square meter of 250mm armor weights less than 2 square meters of 230mm armor. Funny thing physics, isn't it?



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I think it is part of the powerkreep. The 360 alpha is the new 320, as the 440 is the new 390/400

Geno1isme #19 Posted 12 December 2019 - 10:53 AM

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The correlation between caliber and alpha has been loosened quite a bit in recent years. Not just do 105mm guns range from 300 (ARL) to 420 (Leo1) alpha these days, WG also added 152mm guns with 650 (705A, 268v4) instead of 750 alpha or 120mm guns with 440 (UDES15/16, Chieftain) or 122mm with 420 (53TP) alpha, and don't forget about the 90mm 280 alpha gun on the Offspring tank.

 

If you think about it it's pretty obvious, with the sheer number of tanks we have these days WG simply needed more variation options so they don't become too similar, like we had with the T10 meds in the past.


Edited by Geno1isme, 12 December 2019 - 10:54 AM.


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