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Poll: Proposed Crew Changes. (86 members have cast votes)

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What Say You?

  1. I Like The Proposed Changes. (17 votes [19.77%])

    Percentage of vote: 19.77%

  2. I Don't Like The Proposed Changes. (69 votes [80.23%])

    Percentage of vote: 80.23%

Does The Crew System Need Reworking?

  1. Yes. (36 votes [41.86%])

    Percentage of vote: 41.86%

  2. No. (50 votes [58.14%])

    Percentage of vote: 58.14%

Preferred Options.

  1. WG Proposed Changes. (14 votes [16.28%])

    Percentage of vote: 16.28%

  2. Keep The Current System. (44 votes [51.16%])

    Percentage of vote: 51.16%

  3. Keep The Current System, But Change How Skills/Perks Are Earned. (19 votes [22.09%])

    Percentage of vote: 22.09%

  4. I Have Another Idea - Discuss... (9 votes [10.47%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.47%

Will Reworking Your Hard Earned Crews Make You Stop Playing?

  1. Yes, It's Another Nail in The Coffin. (35 votes [40.70%])

    Percentage of vote: 40.70%

  2. No, Don't be Daft. (28 votes [32.56%])

    Percentage of vote: 32.56%

  3. No, But no More Dorra From Me. (23 votes [26.74%])

    Percentage of vote: 26.74%

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Erwin_Von_Braun #1 Posted 13 December 2019 - 11:58 PM

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Hmm?

I'm not so sure here WG, a lot of long term players would have put huge amounts of effort, resources and real world money into creating a series of fairly unique & personalised crews - taking them away like that might not be such a good idea.


 

Now, I'm not saying the skills system couldn't do with a polish but what you're proposing is far too severe - when all that effort has gone into creating something the player is happy with in tanks they enjoy playing, ripping it apart like this is sure to make a good many folk re-evaluate their commitment to the game.

I think you underestimate you player base WG, I really do.


 

Anyways, feel free to discuss/berate at you leisure.


Edited by Erwin_Von_Braun, 13 December 2019 - 11:59 PM.


Bulldog_Drummond #2 Posted 14 December 2019 - 12:28 AM

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What crew changes are those?

I couldn't care less what pixels I have in my tanks, though I suppose some might

I already have Major Jeremy Corbyn in my AT2.  I take him out from time to time, give him a cuddle, and let him run around a bit in the garden. 

Can't let him inside as he has bowel issues.



snowlywhite #3 Posted 14 December 2019 - 12:34 AM

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frankly, I'm very suspicious of any changes proposed by wg. Ok, I only play for 2 years, so maybe less bored than the average. But looking at their ability to balance stuff... any change gives me headaches =))))



Balc0ra #4 Posted 14 December 2019 - 12:39 AM

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If it's more in the style of WOT console or WOWS? Sure. But what it sounded like was more in the direction AW did take with their commanders. And that system... sucks.

TankkiPoju #5 Posted 14 December 2019 - 12:41 AM

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Too early to say anything.

Nishi_Kinuyo #6 Posted 14 December 2019 - 01:09 AM

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View PostTankkiPoju, on 14 December 2019 - 12:41 AM, said:

Too early to say anything.

This, they barely mentioned anything concrete.

So I'll be on the fence about this for a while.



facmanpob #7 Posted 14 December 2019 - 01:13 AM

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The poll should have a 'We don't know enough to comment' option, because frankly we don't know enough to comment.

NekoPuffer_PPP #8 Posted 14 December 2019 - 02:44 AM

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OP, please try linking the details source in your post so people know what the heck you're on about.

 

The link of the article on WoT's front page: https://worldoftanks.eu/en/news/general-news/2020-announcements/



1ucky #9 Posted 14 December 2019 - 06:29 AM

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We gotta be careful of clickbait and too much play on our emotions about stuff that matters.

That includes threats to our beloved tank crews.



BR33K1_PAWAH #10 Posted 14 December 2019 - 06:43 AM

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View PostTankkiPoju, on 14 December 2019 - 02:41 AM, said:

Too early to say anything.

Agreed.

 

 



the_Haba #11 Posted 14 December 2019 - 07:55 AM

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WGs big problem is that people have spent a lot of time grinding their crews, but now they don't need to grind them any more. Crew boosters are not selling!

 

Gotta bring out crew 2.0 so that there is more grinding to be done. Oh, and more crew skill resets paid with gold.



1ucky #12 Posted 14 December 2019 - 08:10 AM

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View PostNekoPuffer_PPP, on 14 December 2019 - 02:44 AM, said:

OP, please try linking the details source in your post so people know what the heck you're on about.

 

The link of the article on WoT's front page: https://worldoftanks.eu/en/news/general-news/2020-announcements/

^ this

#MassiveChange2020

 

No joke, this is pretty substantial.

Kind of revolutionary, might also be a fair enough term.

Changes everything up.

(And I've only read through a part of what's linked...)

 

The game will be changed more than ever before.

Hope it's gonna turn out alright.



Erwin_Von_Braun #13 Posted 14 December 2019 - 11:03 AM

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View PostTankkiPoju, on 13 December 2019 - 11:41 PM, said:

Too early to say anything.

 

View PostNishi_Kinuyo, on 14 December 2019 - 12:09 AM, said:

This, they barely mentioned anything concrete.

So I'll be on the fence about this for a while.

 

View Postfacmanpob, on 14 December 2019 - 12:13 AM, said:

The poll should have a 'We don't know enough to comment' option, because frankly we don't know enough to comment.

 

View PostBR33K1_PAWAH, on 14 December 2019 - 05:43 AM, said:

Agreed.

 

 

Whilst this is certainly true for the detail - the crux of the change has been laid out and, very simply put, you will be losing your crews.

View PostNekoPuffer_PPP, on 14 December 2019 - 01:44 AM, said:

OP, please try linking the details source in your post so people know what the heck you're on about.

 

The link of the article on WoT's front page: https://worldoftanks.eu/en/news/general-news/2020-announcements/

Frankly I would have thought that anyone browsing the forums would be fully aware of any news...

I can't account for your lack of knowledge.



Schepel #14 Posted 14 December 2019 - 11:12 AM

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It is too early to say much about it, but from reading the article I get the impression we may be looking at a similar system WOWS has. My question is: what of all the other crew positions?

AeyT #15 Posted 14 December 2019 - 11:17 AM

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In general improving the crew system to make it more new player friendly would be nice.

Although i think the only major change they absolutely need to do is make sixth sence free because it's such a vital part of the game.

I also hope we will get proper compensation for all the time we've had to put into grinding the crews.

 



pihip #16 Posted 14 December 2019 - 12:09 PM

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I'm concerned about the proposed changes, but it's mostly personal bias.

When I was active in AW, the original crew system was incredibly simple - all crews had a small pool of skills to choose from, and commanders had a small "skill tree" of sorts where the first, third and fifth skill were mandatory with no option, and the second and fourth branched and you could pick between two.

It was very easy to learn, and IMHO effective because it allowed everyone to gear up without thinking too much. It was also rather easy to level up both the crews and the commanders, it just took some time (even as a F2P maxing out a commander and crew was completely doable).

Then they changed the system and, while the crew progression stayed the same, the commander progression became an utter mess, with commanders becoming extremely specific to certain tanks or very generic with no real strength. It also took FAR LONGER to level up said commanders.

My concern is - I would not want for what happened in AW to repeat itself in WoT. Therefore, I'd rather the current system stays (if it ain't broken, don't fix it) and WG focuses on fixing things like sixth sense delay and stuff like that.

Bordhaw #17 Posted 14 December 2019 - 12:20 PM

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View PostCommunity, on 13 December 2019 - 05:57 PM, said:

Read up on future development plans for World of Tanks!
<a href="https://worldoftanks.eu/en/news/general-news/2020-announcements/">The full text of the news item</a>

 

It doesnt encourage me to spend a single Euro any further if some of these proposed changes are included in the game. 

Because why would I invest in a game now that I won't be playing anymore once some of these changes are made...

 



NUKLEAR_SLUG #18 Posted 14 December 2019 - 12:24 PM

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View PostErwin_Von_Braun, on 13 December 2019 - 11:58 PM, said:

Hmm?

I'm not so sure here WG, a lot of long term players would have put huge amounts of effort, resources and real world money into creating a series of fairly unique & personalised crews - taking them away like that might not be such a good idea.

 

The article very clearly says..

 

"Once we introduce Crew 2.0, you can convert the accumulated experience of all existing crew members and direct it to train the new ones. You’ll be able to deploy them in battle instantly, without missing a beat!"

 

..so all those people who have invested in there crews aren't going to be losing out in any way.



Erwin_Von_Braun #19 Posted 14 December 2019 - 05:47 PM

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View PostNUKLEAR_SLUG, on 14 December 2019 - 11:24 AM, said:

 

The article very clearly says..

 

"Once we introduce Crew 2.0, you can convert the accumulated experience of all existing crew members and direct it to train the new ones. You’ll be able to deploy them in battle instantly, without missing a beat!"

 

..so all those people who have invested in there crews aren't going to be losing out in any way.

It goes way beyond pure stats my friend.



Element6 #20 Posted 14 December 2019 - 06:38 PM

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View PostBR33K1_PAWAH, on 14 December 2019 - 06:43 AM, said:

Agreed.

Some people think that sandbox iterations are grounds for starting discussions of WoTs near-future downfall ;)







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