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SamuraiShakaViking #1 Posted 14 December 2019 - 01:53 AM

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Any advice on which tiers it's best to use the national fragment rewards? (Especially the Czech and Pole trees..)

 

I guess obviously it's best to keep them for the   top expensive xp tiers, but otherwise is it better to use them to skip thru the poor  ;  mid tanks, eg. at tiers vii viii which U don't wanna  grind from stock, eg the tvp apparently?

 

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1ucky #2 Posted 14 December 2019 - 02:03 AM

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I don't know what's best, but an idea would be to look at how much of the XP requirement you can subtract from the total, per blueprint fragment. So that you get the biggest possible return on your investment.

Balc0ra #3 Posted 14 December 2019 - 02:13 AM

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Polish tier 6, and Czech tier 8. That's the most painful grinds on those nations, be they stock or elite. So don't spare any for those.

TankkiPoju #4 Posted 14 December 2019 - 09:51 AM

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Got -100% XP discount on Progetto 65 with the fragments from loot boxes.

 

KEKW indeed.

 

EDIT: The fragments were from festive levels and not loot boxes, my bad.


Edited by TankkiPoju, 14 December 2019 - 01:01 PM.


WhoCares01 #5 Posted 14 December 2019 - 10:28 AM

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View PostSamuraiShakaViking, on 14 December 2019 - 01:53 AM, said:

Any advice on which tiers it's best to use the national fragment rewards? (Especially the Czech and Pole trees..)

 

I guess obviously it's best to keep them for the   top expensive xp tiers, but otherwise is it better to use them to skip thru the poor  ;  mid tanks, eg. at tiers vii viii which U don't wanna  grind from stock, eg the tvp apparently?

 

Thanks


Trying to read between the lines, it seems you might suffer from some misconceptions with respect to the blueprints.

1. You don ot apply the BPs to the "bad" tank, you apply them to the tank(s) after the bad tank - that way you reduce the number of battles you need to fight in the turd.

2. You will still need to play those bad tanks from stock, as the blueprints do not affect the module grinds.

 

I attached some screenshots of "my" Czech techtree - I researched it up to tier 4 so that no BPs drop on those low-tier tanks, but I do currently not plan to grind that tree further.

All the BPs on tanks you see there, I received from "normal" drops. Of the 90 Czech national BPs I received 60 now and 30 in a special event this summer.

So I already have 7 BPs on the TVP VTU, which means instead of 106k I only have to grind 17k to unlock the VTU from the T34/100 - +16k to unlock the gun that is in the reasearch path of the T34/100 to the VTU.

To ease the actual grind in the VTU, I will need to apply BPs to the Skoda T50 - the T50 is currently at 3 BPs saving me ~42k of the grind, I could apply 7 more (for the price of 21 Czech and 84 universal fragments). But I would still need to research at least one gun and the turret to finally unlock the Skoda T50.

 

Nice little show-off side fact, just from drops I already have/had the full BPs for 13 tanks - mostly just low tier, but a few higher tiers as well, like the AMX65t before I researched it - another one of those turds, and yes, I just used some French BPs I received yesterday to end the painful grind in that tank.

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Edited by WhoCares01, 14 December 2019 - 10:46 AM.


facmanpob #6 Posted 14 December 2019 - 10:34 AM

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I’m using my Polish BPs to research the Tier 6 and 7, and using Free XP to bypass the Tier 5 and all of the intervening modules (I already have the Tier 4 unlocked). That way I start with the heavy tanks. I’ll use one of the Snow Maidens as the Commander to get 6th Sense from the start.

BeardedCaveman #7 Posted 14 December 2019 - 10:55 AM

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Churchill GC finally :D

PowJay #8 Posted 14 December 2019 - 11:01 AM

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I think that you should perhaps learn to play before using blueprints to get further up the trees even faster. 

 

Your 30 day average tier is 7.69 but your average damage is beaten by my tier III M15/42 



RaptorAbt #9 Posted 14 December 2019 - 11:02 AM

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From a purely numerical point, using the Blueprints on the highest Tiers (10 then 9 then 8 etc) gives you maximum "return/benefit" from each Blueprints  i.e.  circa 7% off a 200k XP rather than 7% off a 64k XP grind.

 

For myself I have just reduced the T62a grind from circa 200k to under 30k (plus bonus from last years Credit discount).



Zmago5000 #10 Posted 14 December 2019 - 11:19 AM

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better use them on tier 9 unlocking its best exp you get / per fragment, and what more, the last segment counts as 2x :)

thank me later



Rainbowkiss83 #11 Posted 14 December 2019 - 11:27 AM

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Save them and use them if you're really intrested on the line
Use them to skip "nasty tanks" (like for example the already mentioned tier8 cz)
No need to rush lines actually cuz you would skip sometimes good and funny tanks at lower tiers
Still i would avoid to use them on lower tier cuz it goes by%
So a 20% at tier 8 it's big difference with 20% at tier 4 and low tier even if nasty to gridn are quite fast compared to other lines
+ consider that during these festivities we will get a lot of bonuses, codes, personal reserves, mission and so on
You have the prob to get free blueprints aswell
So if you're not into the proximity of a tank that you really want to play (or skip) do not jump grinds

Bordhaw #12 Posted 14 December 2019 - 12:11 PM

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View PostSamuraiShakaViking, on 14 December 2019 - 12:53 AM, said:

Any advice on which tiers it's best to use the national fragment rewards? (Especially the Czech and Pole trees..)

 

Tier 2 and 3 ? 



AeyT #13 Posted 14 December 2019 - 12:15 PM

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With the british lines id skip t6 and 7 churchills, complete pieces of garbage that will only make you loose braincells

dtdp #14 Posted 14 December 2019 - 12:21 PM

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why did you used blue prints on tier 10, when škoda t 50 is one of the best and most fun tier 9 tank in the game?

Sylvansight #15 Posted 14 December 2019 - 12:24 PM

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Use them on tanks you want to minimise playtime on because they are crap, boring or don't suit your playstyle. 

Element6 #16 Posted 14 December 2019 - 12:29 PM

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View PostTankkiPoju, on 14 December 2019 - 09:51 AM, said:

Got -100% XP discount on Progetto 65 with the fragments from loot boxes.

 

KEKW indeed.

Sure you didn't get them from advancing the festive levels?



undutchable80 #17 Posted 14 December 2019 - 12:58 PM

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Using mine to skip the AMX65t and the TVP VTU. Having a horrid time in the T6 Polish tank, and some comments here may persuade me to go ahead and skip past that one too...

 

Rest I am saving for a TotT or something. Not in any rush to have all TXs in my garage when I barely play that tier. 



TankkiPoju #18 Posted 14 December 2019 - 01:00 PM

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View PostElement6, on 14 December 2019 - 12:29 PM, said:

Sure you didn't get them from advancing the festive levels?

 

Oh I thought fragments were boxes, I guess I didn't pay attention.



Spurtung #19 Posted 14 December 2019 - 01:47 PM

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View PostRaptorAbt, on 14 December 2019 - 10:02 AM, said:

From a purely numerical point, using the Blueprints on the highest Tiers (10 then 9 then 8 etc) gives you maximum "return/benefit" from each Blueprints  i.e.  circa 7% off a 200k XP rather than 7% off a 64k XP grind.

 

That doesn't work like that.

 

The number of vehicle fragments needed to unlock a tank increases with the tier, so their percentage reduction on the total decreases. 1 fragment on a tier 2 represents 25%, 20% on a tier 3, 18% on a tier 4, all the way down to 7% on a tier 10. This, of course, still means that the absolute value gets reduced the most in higher tiers as reducing 25% on a tier 2 M2 translates to just 55xp while reducing 7% on a tier 10 S. Conqueror goes up to 17,850xp, 32,454% more.

 

 

The amount of national and universal fragments needed to make a single vehicle fragment also increases with the tier. It can be as high as 12U+4N on a tier 10, or as low as 4U+1N on a tier 2.

 

It's all a matter of prioritizing which are the lines worth the effort of grinding, and doing so in a fast way.



thoso1973 #20 Posted 14 December 2019 - 01:56 PM

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View PostSylvansight, on 14 December 2019 - 11:24 AM, said:

Use them on tanks you want to minimise playtime on because they are crap, boring or don't suit your playstyle. 

 

This.

 

Just skipped the Italian tier 7 with blueprints and I'm planning to do the same with the Polish tier 6, 7 or both.

 

Save your free XP for unlocking modules, especially at tier 8 and 9.






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