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loukas2000 #1 Posted 17 December 2019 - 09:36 PM

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I'm currently grinding the IS-3 and was wondering, which heavy tank is better between the IS-7 and the Obj. 277. Which role does each serve? What are their strength and weaknesses? Are they fun to play?

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xx984 #2 Posted 17 December 2019 - 09:39 PM

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IS-7 is imo, the better option. If you want a tank like the 277, the Chinese heavies play the same, and do the job better than the 277, most times out of 10

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View Postxx984, on 17 December 2019 - 09:39 PM, said:

IS-7 is imo, the better option. If you want a tank like the 277, the Chinese heavies play the same, and do the job better than the 277, most times out of 10

Good luck grinding chinese heavy tanks.

277 is way way easier to grind to and its basically the same tank.



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View Postloukas2000, on 17 December 2019 - 09:36 PM, said:

I'm currently grinding the IS-3 and was wondering, which heavy tank is better between the IS-7 and the Obj. 277. Which role does each serve? What are their strength and weaknesses? Are they fun to play?

Thanks for reading

 

I just started the russian heavy line grind and in my research everything pointed to the tier 8 is3 > tier 9 obj 257 >  tier 10 is7 so thats the route im taking.



murn123 #5 Posted 17 December 2019 - 09:42 PM

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Get both since 277 is just a better version of 5A, while is-7 has the better armor and is now after buffs just as fast as 5A.

Oldewolfe #6 Posted 17 December 2019 - 10:27 PM

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I always Recommend IS7 First, then the 277, and Finally the 705A.....

 

First 2 are the Most Familiar and Comfortable to Drive and have the Most Straight Forward Grinds.....        Basic Tanks with Basic Tactics, but the 277 like the T-10 is more Fat Medium than Heavy...       This is the Main reason I recommend the IS7 First, it pretty Simple and a Crew of Untrained Monkies can Drive it, 277 and T-10 require a bit more Finesse.....

 

705A being a Super Heavy requires Basic Sidecraping Skills at the Very Least with the Somewhat Rearward Turret Placement.....        A Good Crew is also a Must in the 705A because it gets Focused alot for being the Slowest of the 3...



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In my opinion IS-7 is a bad tank in current meta, I don't play mine at all. 

277 is far superior over it. The only thing that IS-7 and Obj 257 got are the troll armor that can bounce even from sides and rear.

 

IS-7 gun is really bad, I hate it. 277's gun feels laser compared to it, also it has way better standard and premium penetration.



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I've recently played the IS-7 for Tank Rewards. Since selling the Grille 15, it's the only tier X I have. 

 

I used to do OK in it, just about holding my own and being the only X I've owned to maintain a positive WR. This month I've played 20 battles and won 6.

 

The gun is AWFUL. I don't know about the Object, but it has worse penetration than the T-10 that used to be the tier IX before it. I tend to lean towards spamming APCR and the other day I bounced off the rear armour of another IS-7. Then I failed to pen the side armour of an E75 with normal AP. 

 

Battle after battle with one shot of damage, if I was lucky. The armour worked really well in one particular battle, but in most it was penned by everything else it met. On Tundra I was hull-down trying to pen an Object 277 in the turret with APCR, while he penned my turret every time with HEAT.

 

I'm keeping it until I get another tier X for events that require tier X only, but otherwise it can rust in the garage. 


Edited by PowJay, 17 December 2019 - 10:48 PM.


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IS7

* more hull & turret armor is a hulldown king with no cuppola to hit.

* is better suited for worse players , its more forgiving.

* its a frontline brawler.

 

277

* is faster and more mobile with decent armor.

* better gun overall, rate of fire , gun handling you name it.

* its better suited for better players.

* its a 2nd line support medium or heavium but can still do fine as a 1st line heavy brawler.

 

Both tanks are good , 277 is better but IS7 is more forgiving.

 

Chinese WZ 5A is as good as 277 and for some sligthly better.

 

Its a matter of personal prefference.

I find the obj 260 to be better than all of them due to gun handling alone.


Edited by demon_tank, 18 December 2019 - 02:47 PM.


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Going down the IS-7 branch first myself. Loved the WZ5A, so I look forward to starting the 277 branch soon (waiting for discounts to buy the T-10).

 


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View PostGodTank2, on 17 December 2019 - 09:40 PM, said:

Good luck grinding chinese heavy tanks.

277 is way way easier to grind to and its basically the same tank.


Apparently the 1-4 isn't bad, but i have been put off from the 5A grind since the line is basically just russian tanks but worse up until that point.



azakow #12 Posted 18 December 2019 - 08:22 AM

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Just started on RUS HT line comming from KV-13.

 

View PostOldewolfe, on 17 December 2019 - 10:27 PM, said:

I always Recommend IS7 First, then the 277, and Finally the 705A.....

 

First 2 are the Most Familiar and Comfortable to Drive and have the Most Straight Forward Grinds.....        Basic Tanks with Basic Tactics, but the 277 like the T-10 is more Fat Medium than Heavy...       This is the Main reason I recommend the IS7 First, it pretty Simple and a Crew of Untrained Monkies can Drive it, 277 and T-10 require a bit more Finesse.....

 

705A being a Super Heavy requires Basic Sidecraping Skills at the Very Least with the Somewhat Rearward Turret Placement.....        A Good Crew is also a Must in the 705A because it gets Focused alot for being the Slowest of the 3...

This comment seems to be based on experience, but your service records lack any base for such statements.

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I fetl the is-2 line better than the russian
same goes for tier 4-5-6 t-34s and stuart
Only problem with chinese heavies is the 110 so i would not recomend it for newbies since you ould not do great if u want to play frontlines
Still is not  a bad tank

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View PostRainbowkiss83, on 18 December 2019 - 08:27 AM, said:


Only problem with chinese heavies is the 110 so i would not recomend it for newbies since you ould not do great if u want to play frontlines
 

Use the Chinese blueprints from Holiday Ops to skip past the 110. It is indeed a turd and save your freexp for the WZ111111114, which I enjoyed very much



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Oh is far from bein a bad tank, you can get awesome games in it with reverse sidescraping, it is just not like it used to be and the top gun should have a bit more of pen
I would instead use them to unlock other tech trees or maybe the tier10s in order to eliter tier9 and level up the crew

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@Rainbowkiss83 topic is about RUS rather than CN!

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View PostAeyT, on 18 December 2019 - 07:16 AM, said:


Apparently the 1-4 isn't bad, but i have been put off from the 5A grind since the line is basically just russian tanks but worse up until that point.

Actually the WZ 1-4 is extremely good. Might be better than the T-10 just lke the WZ5A is a bit better than 277 but thats again personal preference.

 

Point is both the T-10 & 1-4 are VERY GOOD just like both 277 & 5A are VERY GOOD.



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This isn't my Main Account, that's on the NA Server....      This is a F2P, Filler Account I fire up when NA is doing Server Maintenance or a New Patch comes out since EU generally get's it before NA....      Gives me a Heads Up on what's Changed when NA goes Live....    I also Fire it Up when I want a Change of Pace... 

 

I have Finished all 3 IS Line Tanks and still have the 9's as well as the 10's in my Garage.....      I also have a Few Video's on YouTube in all 3 Tanks, but Mainly the IS7...        Most of those are with my T-10 Crew and a Loader from my IS to Round the Crew Out, been this way for the better part of it's 100 or so Battles....     It Finally has a Dedicated Crew and my 277 Crew has been pulling Double Duty in the 705A since I got it....

 

I just need to Decide if my 277 Crew, one of my Oldest in the Garage and at 6 Skills, should stay in the 277 or if I want to move them....        The 705A is Similar in Play with the IS7 as far as a Trained or Untrained Crew goes, but the 277 is Far less Agreeable when I tried it....      IS7 and the 705A are both more Concerned in what they Oprrator Knows than the Crew, while the 277 needs to have Both the Operator AND the Crew on the Same Page.....       And even at 6 Skills, the Crew still doesn't seem Enough some days, Despite what the Operator may know...  



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View Postdemon_tank, on 18 December 2019 - 02:48 PM, said:

Actually the WZ 1-4 is extremely good. Might be better than the T-10 just lke the WZ5A is a bit better than 277 but thats again personal preference.

 

Point is both the T-10 & 1-4 are VERY GOOD just like both 277 & 5A are VERY GOOD.

Yes, that is you personal experience and preference.

 

I prefer T-10 over WZ 1-4 and Obj 277 over WZ 5A. Why ? because T-10 has a better gun than 1-4, it is the most accurate 122 mm from the russian heavies I think, the penetration is also tier X level with 258 standard and 340 special. Tier 9 WZ has a bad gun imo. The gun handling is just bad compared to the T-10, also it lack standard pen having 244 (the lowest in tier 9 for heavies) combined with a not so good handling make it just a worse T-10. The only thing it has over T-10 is 50 more alpha.

 

About tier X WZ 5A I think 277 powercreep WZ by far. I mean, 277 is just an upgraded 5A, I see no reason to play the WZ anymore. It has similar armor, similar mobility but 277 has a better turret and a way better gun than 5A. What does WZ 5a has over 277 ? just a bit better DPM that you won't even notice in a random battle.



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Obj 277 is a crap is not worth to be compared with IS 7 , this is tier 8 tank because I get front penn from tier 8 tanks with AP. Dont buy this crap.

 






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