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Poll: Blocking map ping spammers. (77 members have cast votes)

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When do you block (game or Blacklist) a player for spam pinging the map?

  1. After 3 or fewer pings in a row (11 votes [14.29%])

    Percentage of vote: 14.29%

  2. 4 to 6 pings in a row (22 votes [28.57%])

    Percentage of vote: 28.57%

  3. 7 to 10 pings in a row (13 votes [16.88%])

    Percentage of vote: 16.88%

  4. More than 10 pings (10 votes [12.99%])

    Percentage of vote: 12.99%

  5. I'll let them spam the map on one occasion but block them after that. (6 votes [7.79%])

    Percentage of vote: 7.79%

  6. I never block anyone for spam pinging the map. (15 votes [19.48%])

    Percentage of vote: 19.48%

Ping spamming the map...

  1. Is a problem in most games (19 votes [24.68%])

    Percentage of vote: 24.68%

  2. Is a problem in some games (41 votes [53.25%])

    Percentage of vote: 53.25%

  3. Isn't a problem for me (17 votes [22.08%])

    Percentage of vote: 22.08%

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Wintermute_1 #1 Posted 18 December 2019 - 05:35 PM

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I find mini map ping spamming to be a problem in a lot of games I play and end up 'game blocking' that player(s). Imo WG could easily improve the game by introducing a mechanism for controlling this type of behaviour. Just give players an option in settings for registering X number of pings on the mini map per second before cutting out the rest. And if you don't find map pinging annoying then you wouldn't have to use it.

 

This has been a "Known issue" on WG's update log since before life dragged itself out of the oceans and given it's very easy to implement isn't it about time they did something about it. 

 

Note: Yes I know about Elkano's mod that blocks map ping spamming but I'd rather not have to install one single mod every time an update happens. And frankly if whoever Elkano is, can do it, surely WG can.

    



BR33K1_PAWAH #2 Posted 18 December 2019 - 05:46 PM

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I use it to wake up a TD player that has fallen asleep in his bush. 

Usually works.



Stevies_Team #3 Posted 18 December 2019 - 06:00 PM

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I hate map pingers

 

I love disciplining them with my KV5

 

In my vanilla client you can only block them after they die



Wintermute_1 #4 Posted 18 December 2019 - 08:01 PM

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View PostBR33K1_PAWAH, on 18 December 2019 - 05:46 PM, said:

I use it to wake up a TD player that has fallen asleep in his bush. 

Usually works.

If a player can block you in under a couple of seconds I doubt its that effective.



Erwin_Von_Braun #5 Posted 18 December 2019 - 08:15 PM

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View PostStevies_Team, on 18 December 2019 - 05:00 PM, said:

I hate map pingers

 

I love disciplining them with my KV5

 

In my vanilla client you can only block them after they die

Not true.

I play vanilla & you can block anyone at any time.



RamRaid90 #6 Posted 18 December 2019 - 08:18 PM

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View PostStevies_Team, on 18 December 2019 - 05:00 PM, said:

 

 

In my vanilla client you can only block them after they die

 

What on earth are you talking about?

Hold CTRL to bring up the mouse cursor, hover over name, right click, block.

Rocket science, it is not.



NekoPuffer_PPP #7 Posted 18 December 2019 - 08:28 PM

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People pingspam the map when they're chatbanned, it's the only option when they can't do anything else.

 

Any pingspam on my position gets sent back and blocked. Others I don't mind, unless it's relentless. But that's why the block button exists... So it's not a problem. It's easy to get rid of.



Wintermute_1 #8 Posted 18 December 2019 - 09:34 PM

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View PostNekoPuffer_PPP, on 18 December 2019 - 08:28 PM, said:

People pingspam the map when they're chatbanned, it's the only option when they can't do anything else.

 

Any pingspam on my position gets sent back and blocked. Others I don't mind, unless it's relentless. But that's why the block button exists... So it's not a problem. It's easy to get rid of.

 

I don't think individual instances are the issue, its the fact that it happens a lot and sometimes by multiple people in a game. It'd be better if it could be controlled automatically as opposed to manually imo.



Homer_J #9 Posted 18 December 2019 - 10:27 PM

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View PostBR33K1_PAWAH, on 18 December 2019 - 04:46 PM, said:

I use it to wake up a TD player that has fallen asleep in his bush. 

Usually works.

It doesn't though does it.

 

View PostRamRaid90, on 18 December 2019 - 07:18 PM, said:

 

What on earth are you talking about?

Hold CTRL to bring up the mouse cursor, hover over name, right click, block.
 

 

You don't even need to find the name, press CTRL, move the cursor to the ping spam and click the red x.

 

I use this mod and set it to two pings allowed in ten seconds.  Unfortunately it doesn't work against anonymised players.  I am working on a theory that there is a correlation between being a rampant map ping spammer and using the anonymiser.

Without the mod I often have three or four people blocked before the countdown has even finished.

21:34 Added after 6 minute
I have a question for the ping spammers.  What do you think it does for the other 13 people who are trying to play?  Do you think that overall it's a benefit to the team?

 


Edited by Homer_J, 18 December 2019 - 10:32 PM.
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NekoPuffer_PPP #10 Posted 18 December 2019 - 11:18 PM

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View PostWintermute_1, on 18 December 2019 - 09:34 PM, said:

I don't think individual instances are the issue, its the fact that it happens a lot and sometimes by multiple people in a game. It'd be better if it could be controlled automatically as opposed to manually imo.

 

Well WG listed pingspam in the "Known Issues" section of the current version's patchnotes; "There is no protection against pingspam" so we can expect them doing something about it pretty soon. :great:

 

View PostHomer_J, on 18 December 2019 - 10:27 PM, said:

I have a question for the ping spammers.  What do you think it does for the other 13 people who are trying to play?  Do you think that overall it's a benefit to the team?

 

I guess they just wanna annoy the team enough to make it easier for them to lose, out of spite for that one individual, or several, because "They don't deserve to win for what they've done! (or not done):izmena:". :harp:



ThorgrimBrenadim #11 Posted 18 December 2019 - 11:23 PM

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View PostHomer_J, on 18 December 2019 - 10:27 PM, said:

It doesn't though does it.

 

 

You don't even need to find the name, press CTRL, move the cursor to the ping spam and click the red x.

 

I use this mod and set it to two pings allowed in ten seconds.  Unfortunately it doesn't work against anonymised players.  I am working on a theory that there is a correlation between being a rampant map ping spammer and using the anonymiser.

Without the mod I often have three or four people blocked before the countdown has even finished.

21:34 Added after 6 minute
I have a question for the ping spammers.  What do you think it does for the other 13 people who are trying to play?  Do you think that overall it's a benefit to the team?

 

 

I don't think they care they are so full of themselves and their own delusional ability to be the team general. If they ping a few times I just ignore them if they do it a lot but not persistent I generally tell them to ST*U. If they do it all/most game they get reported for chat violation.

 

The fact is this could be automated by wargaming and these people chat banned and even game banned for it. Spamming the map distracts those still playing it can obscure important info like remaining health and last known position of an enemy.

 

I have my own rule general info is one ping important is two pings if need be after about 20-30 seconds repeat if after that they still don't act then why bother pinging that point again.



Wintermute_1 #12 Posted 19 December 2019 - 01:07 AM

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View PostNekoPuffer_PPP, on 18 December 2019 - 11:18 PM, said:

Well WG listed pingspam in the "Known Issues" section of the current version's patchnotes; "There is no protection against pingspam" so we can expect them doing something about it pretty soon. :great:

 

Hmmm.. lets hope sea level rise doesn't get us first.



BR33K1_PAWAH #13 Posted 19 December 2019 - 04:29 AM

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View PostWintermute_1, on 18 December 2019 - 10:01 PM, said:

If a player can block you in under a couple of seconds I doubt its that effective.

 

Or he can start pressing those WASD buttons he got  ;)

03:30 Added after 1 minute

View PostHomer_J, on 19 December 2019 - 12:27 AM, said:

It doesn't though does it.

 

I would say 90% of the time it works all the time :trollface:

 



StronkiTonki #14 Posted 19 December 2019 - 06:10 AM

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I absolutely hate pingspammers.

But in some instances, I can actually sympathise with a pingspammer, when they're actually pinging on something crucial that nobody is paying attention to.

So there are a few exceptions I make, depending on the situation.

 

In most cases however, it's someone who's just butthurt that he/she died and seeks to out his/her frustration on the team, or someone trying to be a field commander and ordering people to do things.

In these cases, I will block them. Which sure is easy to do, but has definitely caused me to take unnecesarry hits a few times, because I was busy blocking a person.

It may only take 1 second, but often, in 1 second a tank can just pop out and take a shot at you.

 

I will admit that I pingspam at 1 specific occasion, and that is only if I am passive scouting, and there are 10 gazillion targets in the open that I am lighting up, and nobody is even trying to aim at them.

It's so incredibly frustrating that in 80% of the battles when you are spotting targets passively, your teammates are a bunch of blind donkeys that truly never look at the friggin map.

By pingspamming the spotted target, I may actually make the donkeys realize that there is a target that they can shoot at. I do genuinely feel bad when I do it, but I honestly don't know how else to make it even more clear that there are easy targets available...



1ucky #15 Posted 19 December 2019 - 06:34 AM

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It's very situational.

Some pings are ok, some are not.



Rainbowkiss83 #16 Posted 19 December 2019 - 07:36 AM

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I find it problematic when it is done randomly or when they do on purpose or on a nerdrage
Sometimes pinging saved the game even if it was harassing cuz it recalled the attenction to something happening.
I do it very rarely btw as i find it uncomfortable and lot of people is enjoying my ignore list because of that

vilken_banana #17 Posted 19 December 2019 - 07:36 AM

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I block everyone after second ping if they don't say anything in the chat. Me no habla pingon.  No english -> block.

Mimos_A #18 Posted 19 December 2019 - 09:03 AM

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View PostErwin_Von_Braun, on 18 December 2019 - 08:15 PM, said:

Not true.

I play vanilla & you can block anyone at any time.


That requires clicking in the right place. There's plenty of indicators that that is something he has yet to master :)



Homer_J #19 Posted 19 December 2019 - 09:45 AM

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View PostNekoPuffer_PPP, on 18 December 2019 - 10:18 PM, said:

 

Well WG listed pingspam in the "Known Issues" section of the current version's patchnotes; "There is no protection against pingspam" so we can expect them doing something about it pretty soon. :great:

 

It's been in the known issues since they started listing known issues.  Don't get your hopes up.



xx984 #20 Posted 19 December 2019 - 09:54 AM

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In 65k games I’ve blocked someone for it maybe 3 or 4 times. It’s a non issue.

 

people seem to expect only one ping for something, which when playing the game doesn’t get attention, 3-5 pings is what I usually do depending on how important whatever I’m trying to point out is.






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