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Poll: Questions about your Loot / Gift Boxes buying behavior (207 members have cast votes)

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How many Gift Boxes did you buy?

  1. 0 Gift Boxes (49 votes [23.67%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 23.67%

  2. 0 Gift Boxes, but I still need to buy them. (1 vote [0.48%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 0.48%

  3. 0 Gift Boxes, but someone gifted me boxes :-) (5 votes [2.42%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 2.42%

  4. 3 - 9 Gift Boxes (9 votes [4.35%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 4.35%

  5. 11 - 24 Gift Boxes (20 votes [9.66%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 9.66%

  6. 25 - 74 Gift Boxes (50 votes [24.15%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 24.15%

  7. 75 - 149 Gift Boxes (51 votes [24.64%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 24.64%

  8. 150 - 199 Gift Boxes (16 votes [7.73%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 7.73%

  9. 200 Gift Boxes or more (6 votes [2.90%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 2.90%

Did you buy more Gift Boxes than planned?

  1. Yes (72 votes [34.78%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 34.78%

  2. No (81 votes [39.13%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 39.13%

  3. Not yet, but maybe I'll change my mind.... (19 votes [9.18%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 9.18%

  4. I didn't buy any Gift Boxes and I'm sure I won't buy any this year! (35 votes [16.91%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 16.91%

Are you happy with the content of the Gift Boxes?

  1. Yes, I'm simply content with what I got. (55 votes [26.57%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 26.57%

  2. Yes, I'm very satisfied, because I got more than expected! (57 votes [27.54%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 27.54%

  3. No, I'm disappointed. (34 votes [16.43%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 16.43%

  4. No, I'm very disappointed and feel robbed of my money! (15 votes [7.25%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 7.25%

  5. I didn't open any Gift Boxes. (46 votes [22.22%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 22.22%

Do you only buy Gift Boxes for yourself or also for others?

  1. Only for myself. (128 votes [61.84%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 61.84%

  2. Only for others. (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  3. For myself and for others. (32 votes [15.46%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 15.46%

  4. I don't buy for anyone. (47 votes [22.71%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 22.71%

Do you think WG should change or remove the Gift Boxes? (more answers possible)

  1. No, the Gift Boxes are great like this! (65 votes [25.69%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 25.69%

  2. Yes, the Gift Boxes should be tweaked a little bit to become more fair for everyone. (45 votes [17.79%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 17.79%

  3. Yes, the Gift Boxes are gambling and should be changed completely. (33 votes [13.04%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 13.04%

  4. Yes, the Gift Boxes are a money scam and should be removed from the Holiday Ops event! (22 votes [8.70%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 8.70%

  5. WG should be transparent and give us the exact drop rates per item in percentages. (88 votes [34.78%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 34.78%

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NUKLEAR_SLUG #21 Posted 19 December 2019 - 01:02 PM

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Have not got any yet, but will get some towards the end of the event for the cheap gold/premium time when I can see what boxes to get for the collection I've least completed. Will use the discount gold to get further discounted premium time.

 

Would quite like an Obj 703 because it looks lulzy, but certainly won't be fishing for one. If I'm lucky then so be it, if not I can wait until WG inevitably sell it in a month or three and see if I'm tempted then. 



NekoPuffer_PPP #22 Posted 19 December 2019 - 01:24 PM

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View PostCheezix, on 19 December 2019 - 01:01 PM, said:

The problem though is this logo:

 

7-year-olds have credit cards?

 

I think that's the parents' problem, not WG's.

 

View PostCheezix, on 19 December 2019 - 12:45 PM, said:

It's easy to stick to your initial plan if you got more than expected. But tell that to someone who spend €200 for 150 boxes and didn't get a single tier VIII premium...

 

So? How much did you get from 150 boxes? 250 gold (minimum guaranteed drop per box) in 150 boxes is 37.500 gold. That's more than enough for 3 tier 8 premium tanks at the very least.

 

It's only gambling if you make it be, by not giving up until you get exactly what you want...but the thing is, you're getting your money's worth with every single box, and then some.



Cheezix #23 Posted 19 December 2019 - 01:46 PM

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View PostNekoPuffer_PPP, on 19 December 2019 - 01:24 PM, said:

7-year-olds have credit cards?

I think that's the parents' problem, not WG's.

 

True, but companies also have obligations towards society. It's not okay to offer anything to everyone, even though the first responsibility lies always with the parents.

Edit: besides, wouldn't you agree that Rockstar would be wrong if they would state that 3 year old kids can play GTA V? Should that be allowed? Or is that only the parents problem? Of course not! So get the point?

 

View PostNekoPuffer_PPP, on 19 December 2019 - 01:24 PM, said:

So? How much did you get from 150 boxes? 250 gold (minimum guaranteed drop per box) in 150 boxes is 37.500 gold. That's more than enough for 3 tier 8 premium tanks at the very least.

 

It's only gambling if you make it be, by not giving up until you get exactly what you want...but the thing is, you're getting your money's worth with every single box, and then some.

 

I didn't buy any boxes yet. And personally I will buy the boxes mainly for gold and premium time, but of course my hopes are up for receiving some of the tier VIII premium tanks. The point is that 2 of those 4 tanks are not available outside the loot boxes, so it temps people to buy more and gamble all their money. Logic doesn't always win when desire is involved and WG knows this perfectly well.


Edited by Cheezix, 19 December 2019 - 01:52 PM.


splash_time #24 Posted 19 December 2019 - 01:55 PM

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I haven't buy any, and i won't, because I'm a free to play, but i guess it's a good way to make people happy.

 

But it's Christmas and WG had to gift them to people, something like 3-5 boxes. 

And I'm really happy for people who got good rewards from them.

Merry Christmas everyone :)



jabster #25 Posted 19 December 2019 - 01:58 PM

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View PostNekoPuffer_PPP, on 19 December 2019 - 12:24 PM, said:

 

7-year-olds have credit cards?

 

I think that's the parents' problem, not WG's.

 

 

So? How much did you get from 150 boxes? 250 gold (minimum guaranteed drop per box) in 150 boxes is 37.500 gold. That's more than enough for 3 tier 8 premium tanks at the very least.

 

It's only gambling if you make it be, by not giving up until you get exactly what you want...but the thing is, you're getting your money's worth with every single box, and then some.


If it’s all the parents problem then the PEGI rating is irrelevant.



divsmo #26 Posted 19 December 2019 - 02:04 PM

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View Postjabster, on 19 December 2019 - 12:58 PM, said:


If it’s all the parents problem then the PEGI rating is irrelevant.

How so? Surely you could say the same thing around any app or game with in app purchases? 



jabster #27 Posted 19 December 2019 - 02:18 PM

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View Postdivsmo, on 19 December 2019 - 01:04 PM, said:

How so? Surely you could say the same thing around any app or game with in app purchases? 


If it’s all up to the parents then what difference does it make if a game has a PEGI 7 rating or a 15 one or even an 18 one?



NekoPuffer_PPP #28 Posted 19 December 2019 - 02:19 PM

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View PostCheezix, on 19 December 2019 - 01:46 PM, said:

True, but companies also have obligations towards society. It's not okay to offer anything to everyone, even though the first responsibility lies always with the parents.

Edit: besides, wouldn't you agree that Rockstar would be wrong if they would state that 3 year old kids can play GTA V? Should that be allowed? Or is that only the parents problem? Of course not! So get the point?


 

I didn't buy any boxes yet. And personally I will buy the boxes mainly for gold and premium time, but of course my hopes are up for receiving some of the tier VIII premium tanks. The point is that 2 of those 4 tanks are not available outside the loot boxes, so it temps people to buy more and gamble all their money. Logic doesn't always win when desire is involved and WG knows this perfectly well.

 

Rockstar? GTA? First off, it's 18+. Second, parents decide whether or not to buy such games for their kids to play, and it's only their fault if they don't look at the rating, don't know what it means, or don't know what the game is about. So it's their problem, not the company's. By your logic, all games should be suitable for 3-year-olds...LOL


 

Buy a predetermined amount, and no more.

 

People need to learn how to feel disappointment...nowadays everyone takes things for granted. It don't work like that, amigo. Some times you get lucky, other times you don't. But just because you didn't get lucky, doesn't mean you need to go bankrupt. But it's up to you sweetie~

 

It's a psychological trap. If you don't have any self-control...better go find some! :trollface:



Cheezix #29 Posted 19 December 2019 - 02:21 PM

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View PostNekoPuffer_PPP, on 19 December 2019 - 02:19 PM, said:

 

Rockstar? GTA? First off, it's 18+. Second, parents decide whether or not to buy such games for their kids to play, and it's only their fault if they don't look at the rating, don't know what it means, or don't know what the game is about. So it's their problem, not the company's. By your logic, all games should be suitable for 3-year-olds...LOL


 

Buy a predetermined amount, and no more.

 

People need to learn how to feel disappointment...nowadays everyone takes things for granted. It don't work like that, amigo. Some times you get lucky, other times you don't. But just because you didn't get lucky, doesn't mean you need to go bankrupt. But it's up to you sweetie~

 

It's a psychological trap. If you don't have any self-control...better go find some! :trollface:


You have some good points,although you totally misunderstood my point about GTA V. So again I ask you: would you consider it to be okay if Rockstar changed the 18+ to 3+? And why?
 



Homer_J #30 Posted 19 December 2019 - 02:24 PM

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View PostCheezix, on 19 December 2019 - 01:21 PM, said:


So again I ask you: would you consider it to be okay if Rockstar changed the 18+ to 3+? And why?
 

 

Isn't it up to the classification board to set the age rating, not the game publisher?

 

I'm not sure where the PEGI forums are but they aren't here.



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View Postjabster, on 19 December 2019 - 01:18 PM, said:


If it’s all up to the parents then what difference does it make if a game has a PEGI 7 rating or a 15 one or even an 18 one?

Fairly certain it's around the suitability of content for different age ranges., not whether or not you can buy additional content through micro transactions? 



24doom24 #32 Posted 19 December 2019 - 02:35 PM

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drop rates would be nice. I don't like this tradition of companies ( a big example is EA) who don't disclose the percentage chances of what you could get.


Edited by 24doom24, 19 December 2019 - 02:35 PM.


Cheezix #33 Posted 19 December 2019 - 02:35 PM

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View PostHomer_J, on 19 December 2019 - 02:24 PM, said:

 

Isn't it up to the classification board to set the age rating, not the game publisher?

 

I'm not sure where the PEGI forums are but they aren't here.

 

It's a hypothetical question, because of course it's not possible for Rockstar to change the age rating for GTA V. It's about the reason for why there are these rules for companies. That was my whole point see?



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View PostCheezix, on 19 December 2019 - 12:46 PM, said:

 

True, but companies also have obligations towards society. 

 

Not really, if this was some high ethical issue like the environment or to pay taxes etc. then yes, but not to police people's buying habits and act as their self control. If a parent lets their kids buy loot boxes, they are stupid and should be more responsible, and I say that as a parent.  If my kid accidentally bought something over the net or had that ability then I would fully blame myself not the company that allowed them to do it.  I see no issue with the boxes being in a game that kids might play, there should be a natural barrier where kids can't just buy loads of the boxes and if they want to, then they have to go ask their parents who can say no.  If a kid then buys a load of the boxes without the parents permission then those parents have mucked up. 



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View Postdivsmo, on 19 December 2019 - 01:30 PM, said:

Fairly certain it's around the suitability of content for different age ranges., not whether or not you can buy additional content through micro transactions? 

 

If it’s all up to the parents then what difference does it make that someone else has determined it’s suitable for your child?

 

The position that it’s all up to the parents can only logically lead to removing all age restrictions based laws.


Edited by jabster, 19 December 2019 - 03:35 PM.


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Bought 0, still received 27. No tier 8 tanks, which most players obviously want.

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View Post24doom24, on 19 December 2019 - 02:35 PM, said:

drop rates would be nice. I don't like this tradition of companies ( a big example is EA) who don't disclose the percentage chances of what you could get.

 

I don't understand why it's so important to know the drop rates? What difference does it make?

 

Even if the drop rate is 10% for example, you're still not guaranteed to get what you want in one of 10 boxes. The RNG could stretch out to making you buy 100 or more to get what you want!

 

It's because it's random, that's why drop rates, IMO, are irrelevant. Ain't it already clear enough, that tier 8 tanks drop less often than tier 6, or tier 3, etc. tanks, just by common sense?

 

View PostCheezix, on 19 December 2019 - 02:21 PM, said:

You have some good points,although you totally misunderstood my point about GTA V. So again I ask you: would you consider it to be okay if Rockstar changed the 18+ to 3+? And why?

 

I find it hard to answer silly questions with obvious answers.



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View PostNekoPuffer_PPP, on 19 December 2019 - 03:55 PM, said:

I find it hard to answer silly questions with obvious answers.

 

I'm glad we both find it obvious, which is totally proving my point. ;)

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View PostNekoPuffer_PPP, on 19 December 2019 - 03:55 PM, said:

I don't understand why it's so important to know the drop rates? What difference does it make?

 

A huge difference! According to you it's best to determine how many boxes you buy beforehand, which is of course the smart thing to do. If you roughly know the drop rates it is useful for knowing how many boxes you need to buy to have at least some decent chance for getting something good. You can't say "it's all RNG so it doesn't matter". The chances help you with having a reasonable expectation. Of course the outcome is never certain, but still, there is a huge difference between 1% probability and 10% probability. With 1% a lot of people wouldn't even buy boxes, not even just for the gold, because it is almost sure you don't get anything when buying just a few boxes..


Edited by Cheezix, 19 December 2019 - 04:14 PM.


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View PostCheezix, on 19 December 2019 - 04:02 PM, said:

I'm glad we both find it obvious, which is totally proving my point. ;)

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A huge difference! According to you it's best to determine how many boxes you buy beforehand, which is of course the smart thing to do. If you roughly know the drop rates it is useful for knowing how many boxes you need to buy to have at least some decent chance for getting something good. You can't say "it's all RNG so it doesn't matter". The chances help you with having a reasonable expectation. Of course the outcome is never certain, but still, there is a huge difference between 1% probability and 10% probability. With 1% a lot of people wouldn't even buy boxes, not even just for the gold, because it is almost sure you don't get anything when buying just a few boxes..

 

Well I'm not buying the boxes with the purpose of getting the top available prize. I'm buying what I can afford, the amount of money I feel free to toss away in hopes of getting something nice out of it. If I don't get the top prize, so what? It's not like the world would end.

 

A higher drop rate would only get my hopes up higher, then bring me down even harder if I don't get what I want, if I cared about that.



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View Post24doom24, on 19 December 2019 - 02:35 PM, said:

drop rates would be nice. I don't like this tradition of companies ( a big example is EA) who don't disclose the percentage chances of what you could get.

 

Quite interesting really

 

A casino, by LAW, has to tell you the return on any game in the UK

 

Even a bookies slot machine will have a little steel plate on it telling you what you get back (the percentage)

 

Lootboxes are outside the law at the moment, but not for much longer IMO







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