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BR33K1_PAWAH #1 Posted 19 December 2019 - 01:09 PM

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I've got a couple of questions on those two.

 

Which one you think is stronger tier-to-tier?

Which one you enjoyed more and why?

And what do you think of superheavy spall liner on 268 - worth it or not? And if you would put one there what piece equipment you would sacrifice for it?
 
edit: forum glitched

Edited by BR33K1_PAWAH, 19 December 2019 - 01:11 PM.


NUKLEAR_SLUG #2 Posted 19 December 2019 - 01:11 PM

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263 definitely,  just wasn't keen on the 268v4.

tajj7 #3 Posted 19 December 2019 - 01:20 PM

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Haven't played the bobject yet, have it unlocked but not bought, but I really enjoyed the 263, shame I never got to play it in tier 10 form aside the test server as having played it on tier 9 as a yolowagon the extra speed and DPM the tier 10 had would have made it super fun to play IMO. 

 

263 can be really awkward and the lower plate is a problem but the MM is also a sweet spot as you brutalise tier 7s and 8s, whilst still effectively having tier 10 armour so hull down you can still challenge the tier 10s. 



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View PostBR33K1_PAWAH, on 19 December 2019 - 03:09 PM, said:

I've got a couple of questions on those two.

 

Which one you think is stronger tier-to-tier?

Which one you enjoyed more and why?

And what do you think of superheavy spall liner on 268 - worth it or not? And if you would put one there what piece equipment you would sacrifice for it?
 
edit: forum glitched

 

268 v4. 

First difference between them is the frontal armour+side armour. You can yolo towards your enemies with 268 v4 without taking the smallest amount of damage, and sometimes you can over angle and survive, because it can absorb some shots (idk how?!) And just lose track.

Second thing is penetration 300 against 360 is incomparable when it gets to 263's gold ammo. 

Also lower plate juat disappear and hitting it becomes very very hard.

 

Personally, i use vent,rammer,gun laying.

It's working fine for me, i was able to ace it three times IIRC. 

 

I liked them both, but 268 v4 is way better than 263 because i like to be aggressive.

 


Edited by splash_time, 19 December 2019 - 01:34 PM.


vonadnan #5 Posted 19 December 2019 - 01:34 PM

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After all the modules were researched I really enjoyed 263, and started having regular 3k+ games. That open top will cost u when arty hits, but besides not having turret that is only weakness in my eyes, maybe accuracy on long distances but hey..

268-4 on the other hand is just plain stupid, I mean u don't have turret and that's it. I have only 4 random games in it (all wins) but played it a lot in Ranked, that armor with that speed..ffs. Funny thing, I'v put toolbox(with rammer,optics) with idea to move it when the crew gets higher on repairs but it works quite well, idk I will probably  put vents.. Anyhow, just try not to overextend or/and get flanked, which is hard because this thing will give u superiority complex :) but even then u will probably survive :) 



FatigueGalaxy #6 Posted 19 December 2019 - 02:04 PM

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I really wanted to like 263 but:

- crap firepower  - 50TP has almost the same DPM, better accuracy, turret, gun depression and the same APCR...

- no roof, bad side armour, big LFP which is extremely hard to hide because of gun depression,

- fast in a straight line but turns like a boat,

- 360 m view range.

 

This is a really bad combination for a TD that supposed to be "assault TD" and be played aggressively. You can't spot, armour is trash when enemy gets close and when it comes to knife fight, even heavies can circle you. Even if you manage to get yourself into a perfect position, arty will punish you hard.

So most of the time you play it as traditional TD with a really bad gun and you use mobility to scavenge damage at the end of the battle.

View Posttajj7, on 19 December 2019 - 01:20 PM, said:

Haven't played the bobject yet, have it unlocked but not bought, but I really enjoyed the 263, shame I never got to play it in tier 10 form aside the test server as having played it on tier 9 as a yolowagon the extra speed and DPM the tier 10 had would have made it super fun to play IMO. 

 

263 can be really awkward and the lower plate is a problem but the MM is also a sweet spot as you brutalise tier 7s and 8s, whilst still effectively having tier 10 armour so hull down you can still challenge the tier 10s. 


The thing is, I think 268v4 will brutalize tiers 8s and 9s better than 263 can tiers 7s and 8s...

263 is just so awkward at doing the job it's intended to do.



Rati_Festa #7 Posted 19 December 2019 - 02:05 PM

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The 263 is only good against bad players, I found it quite awkward to play and I free exped a few of the modules, instantly sold it once completed.

 

The 268 v4 instantly reminded me of the Su 100M1. The weird armour layout can bounce badly aimed shots all day and it's really good at bullying heavies, reasonably mobile... just don't snipe in the thing. That always makes me grin when I see some bot camping in a bush with the 268 v4...

 

It's so much better than any of my other t10 TDs its a joke really, I have Fv4005, grille and Jagpanzer e100. The combo of speed, armour and reasonable alpha just sets it apart for me.


Edited by Rati_Festa, 19 December 2019 - 02:07 PM.


BR33K1_PAWAH #8 Posted 19 December 2019 - 02:06 PM

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My main concerns with 268/4 are rangefinder and rather slow turning speed. One of big things i enjoy about 263 is that you don't care on which side you pick a corner - left or right, there is no weak spot on top of your tank. Ain't a case with 268.

But i imagine that wiggling when your rangefinder is exposed should make hitting it very difficult.


Edited by BR33K1_PAWAH, 19 December 2019 - 02:08 PM.


tajj7 #9 Posted 19 December 2019 - 02:45 PM

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View PostFatigueGalaxy, on 19 December 2019 - 01:04 PM, said:

The thing is, I think 268v4 will brutalize tiers 8s and 9s better than 263 can tiers 7s and 8s...

263 is just so awkward at doing the job it's intended to do.

 

I find it the other way round, from the few games on other accounts and test server of the bobject, the cupola you can never hide causes problems against anyone competent, and you face so many tier 10s that will spam premium ammo at you, whereas the 263 can bully people pretty easily by just finding some rubble or wreck to use to hide the lower plate, and then your armour is very strong. 

 

I played it really aggressively and top tier its really brutal IMO, the lower plate is a problem but often people don't hit it that easily and the alpha scales better IMO on tier 9 than the 650 does on tier 10 because tier 10s face all tier 10 games all the time IMO.

 

Plus you face way less games with tier 10 HEAT slung at you, as half your opponents barely have over 250 pen even on prem rounds, so hide the lower plate and you are basically frontally immune to the majority of tanks you face.

 

I also think the Bobject is hated more, so it automatically gets more premium ammo, whereas the 263 doesn't.

 

I found the 263 really really strong, but I find tier 9 a better tier to play and better balanced so maybe that influences my choice. 

 

The only good thing about the bobject I can see is the lack of the lower plate so against bad players they will struggle more hitting the cupola if you just drive out in front of them, but considering I have little issue farming bobjects these days in tier 10s that worries me. 



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View PostBR33K1_PAWAH, on 19 December 2019 - 04:06 PM, said:

One of big things i enjoy about 263 is that you don't care on which side you pick a corner - left or right, there is no weak spot on top of your tank. Ain't a case with 268.

But i imagine that wiggling when your rangefinder is exposed should make hitting it very difficult.

 

Aha, say hello to heat, your gun manlet and frontal armour is 50/50 for heat mate.

And 268 v4's coupla is not that easy to hit, it needs 260+ mm of penetration to be panned reliably. Unless you fire gold ammo.

 



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View Postsplash_time, on 19 December 2019 - 02:11 PM, said:

 

Aha, say hello to heat, your gun manlet and frontal armour is 50/50 for heat mate.

And 268 v4's coupla is not that easy to hit, it needs 260+ mm of penetration to be panned reliably. Unless you fire gold ammo.

 

 

Tier 9s don't face anywhere near as many tanks with 330+ HEAT, that is the point, and even then the 263 will bounce it fairly reliably, only really a small area around the gun causes issues and if you miss it, then the rest of the mantlet will bounce it because of the armour behind.

 

Also people will spam HEAT at a bobject because it's a bobject. 

 

HEAT also works for the Bobject upper plate as well.

 

If you look at both tanks vs HEAT -

 

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I'd say the 263 edges it, if its hiding its lower plate and it faces less tanks with 300 plus pen HEAT. 



evilchaosmonkey #12 Posted 20 December 2019 - 12:08 AM

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Having just finished the 263 and bought the 268 here's my view after a few games in the 268.

I am an utterly average player, both tanks published stats don't feel like they match up with reality in game - especially around gun handling.

 

263's top gun for me was highly inaccurate even at mid-range, meaning I had to play it close up.  At close range, it was subject to frequent misses.  Pen I found terrible too but it's possibly related to the inaccuracy I found.

The accuracy may be being caused by the current server lag issues dogging players.

 

268 has been a joy to play in the first few games winning 8 out of 8 matches and it felt a good sort of dirty to play it.  To test it out, I tried in many games to ensure I was pushing hard at the front and not sitting back. 

The armour is strong.  The gun 'felt' more accurate than the 263's but I suspect that's my imagination plus the fact I was playing closer up, though I did try 2x games sniping and it was OK.

 

The best part is the opposition do feel intimidated by the tank and that (I felt) turned the course of some of the matches - enabling the rest of the team to push for damage behind me.  You didn't get that with the 263.

 

edit: sry I meant the 268, I wrote 264.  One Stella too many - see with the 268v4 even a noob can win even after too many Stellas, he just can't remember what tank he was typing about :(


Edited by evilchaosmonkey, 20 December 2019 - 12:17 AM.


1ucky #13 Posted 20 December 2019 - 02:04 AM

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263 is cooler, because it's open top and not OP.

268v4 is stronger cause it's harder to pen frontally and arty can't just drop a shell inside you without having to pen your roof first.

 

But come to think if it, with lucky MM the 263 might be much stronger, cause fighting vs Tier 7-9 instead of 8-10.

#BestScenario

 

Also, the 263 feels like it can turn faster, no matter what the stats say on paper. Which is obviously extra important without a rotateable turret.

 

Considering the #SuperHeavySpallLiner, yes it makes sense to install it (cause people will spam HE at you, plus it's hard enough to steer with a living driver), I don't know what equipment you'd best drop though cause I don't know what you've got installed already. But it's your pick what you want to boost anyway, and many things make sense in that tank.

 

For me personally the 263 drives were probably more fun, so far. But I should drive them both a lot more. I think it's fair to say that they are both very powerful tanks. Can't really pick a wrong one out of those two.

#KeepThemBoth :)


Edited by 1ucky, 20 December 2019 - 02:13 AM.


Hamsterkicker #14 Posted 20 December 2019 - 08:58 AM

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Just roll back the introduction of the Bobject and give me back my old Tier X Object 263.. Then it was a joy to play. Since it became castrated and moved down to tier IX, I I've only kept it for the memories..  However, I took out of the garage this week because of the daily block damage and get small lootboxes challenge and I have to say it still works wonders for that.

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I actually bought the Bobject last night, only played 4 games but its certainly solid but I still think I prefer the 263, mainly because it's less idiot proof and requires more thinking, but also because the tier 9 meta is just more balanced. 





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