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Nerve tier 9 and 10 wheeled tanks

  1. yes, (55 votes [59.78%])

    Percentage of vote: 59.78%

  2. no, (25 votes [27.17%])

    Percentage of vote: 27.17%

  3. no opinion (1 vote [1.09%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.09%

  4. might as well buff light tanks (11 votes [11.96%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.96%

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Arjenzee #1 Posted 19 December 2019 - 11:31 PM

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how many times do you see tier 10 and 9 wheeled tanks just drive around in the open and no one is able to hit it.

 

yes every time you see 1 in the matchup they just don't care and go straight for the most spots "And get away with it"

I am a light tank player, i liked to play licht tank,  after they introduced tier 10 and 9 wheeled tanks i just can't play them.

i cant go spotting active because i'll get rushed and if i play passive i'll get rushed as well.

 

the only thing left to do is playing all the way in the back because it doesn't really matter anymore.

the old lights are no good, or they need a buff or the tier 9 and tier 10 wheeled tanks need to be nerved.

 

Atleast remove the aim bot wargaming gave them. if you think the tank is to fast to shoot accurately then it should be to fast to hit,  as simple as that.



Robbie_T #2 Posted 20 December 2019 - 01:47 AM

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Well today i was in my JG PZ E100

Had a prem round loaded for a heavy than a Ebr 90 came by with 85kmh....he drove  away right in front of my gun..i fire  AND BOUNCE.

And that was not the wheel that was the back of the tank



Balc0ra #3 Posted 20 December 2019 - 03:07 AM

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Oh... not seen one of those in a while. I was starting to wonder if you lot suddenly thought they were fine.

 

View PostRobbie_T, on 20 December 2019 - 01:47 AM, said:

Well today i was in my JG PZ E100

Had a prem round loaded for a heavy than a Ebr 90 came by with 85kmh....he drove  away right in front of my gun..i fire  AND BOUNCE.

And that was not the wheel that was the back of the tank

 

I highly doubt he had 1K damage blocked. And if you go on tank.gg, you might notice that most of the rear profile... is not all armor either. As most of it is just the skirts covering the wheels more so then hull. As if you hit the hull... you would 100% overmatch it for that to bounce.


Edited by Balc0ra, 20 December 2019 - 03:07 AM.


ChristOfTheAbyss #4 Posted 20 December 2019 - 06:36 AM

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View PostRobbie_T, on 20 December 2019 - 01:47 AM, said:

Well today i was in my JG PZ E100

Had a prem round loaded for a heavy than a Ebr 90 came by with 85kmh....he drove  away right in front of my gun..i fire  AND BOUNCE.

And that was not the wheel that was the back of the tank


Replay? I bet you just hit the wheel, not the actual hull as its always the case.

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View PostArjenzee, on 19 December 2019 - 11:31 PM, said:

how many times do you see tier 10 and 9 wheeled tanks just drive around in the open and no one is able to hit it.

 

If Im in the game, never, as Im able to hit them. Its really not that hard. Just aim.



BR33K1_PAWAH #5 Posted 20 December 2019 - 07:51 AM

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So, top wheelchairs have an edge on tracked scouts.  Ok. Wheelchairs also are utter garbage at everything except active scouting. If they couldn't wreck regular scouts then what's the point of even playing them?


Edited by BR33K1_PAWAH, 20 December 2019 - 07:52 AM.


Richthoffen #6 Posted 20 December 2019 - 08:26 AM

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View PostBalc0ra, on 20 December 2019 - 03:07 AM, said:

Oh... not seen one of those in a while. I was starting to wonder if you lot suddenly thought they were fine.

 

 

I highly doubt he had 1K damage blocked. And if you go on tank.gg, you might notice that most of the rear profile... is not all armor either. As most of it is just the skirts covering the wheels more so then hull. As if you hit the hull... you would 100% overmatch it for that to bounce.

even if he hit that skirt, a JPz shell should atleast rip off 3 wheels


Edited by Richthoffen, 20 December 2019 - 08:26 AM.


NUKLEAR_SLUG #7 Posted 20 December 2019 - 08:37 AM

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View PostRobbie_T, on 20 December 2019 - 01:47 AM, said:

Well today i was in my JG PZ E100

Had a prem round loaded for a heavy than a Ebr 90 came by with 85kmh....he drove  away right in front of my gun..i fire  AND BOUNCE.

And that was not the wheel that was the back of the tank

 

No, you missed. If you had hit hull that would have overmatched. 



shikaka9 #8 Posted 20 December 2019 - 08:45 AM

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"you really dont know what is OP or too strong Wheeled, untill you meet soviet ones"

 

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splash_time #9 Posted 20 December 2019 - 08:49 AM

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Well, I'm grinding the line now, and I researched the Lynx already, the T7 was not bad, and they do have bad weaknesses, first one is:

  • they can't turn around like tracked tanks, and if they hit or stuck in a corner or anywhere, they're pretty much dead.
  • Lacking 25% view range compared to other lights, which means you must go closer to your enemy which can cost you a lot.
  • Fire rate of these things is really bad compared to other lights, so if u meet other tanks u can't trade verry well.
  • Etc

Yeah, they do have good speed but they still can be damaged/destroyed by other good players if you go yoloing to spot.

 



Hamsterkicker #10 Posted 20 December 2019 - 08:50 AM

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I sure hope they are as I just used blueprints to skip that horrible, horrible Lynx...

tajj7 #11 Posted 20 December 2019 - 09:33 AM

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View PostBalc0ra, on 20 December 2019 - 02:07 AM, said:

 you would 100% overmatch it for that to bounce.

 

View PostNUKLEAR_SLUG, on 20 December 2019 - 07:37 AM, said:

 

No, you missed. If you had hit hull that would have overmatched. 

 

He said he was using a premium round, which is HEAT on the JpE100 and doesn't overmatch, so I'd presume he hit a very steep angle, or just missed, hit the wheels and the game gave him the wrong information.

 

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As for the OP, no they are not OP, if you are losing to them in light tanks you are doing something wrong and they don't yolo around the map and get away with it, the majority of times they die uselessly, your confirmation bias is talking. 



krismorgan #12 Posted 20 December 2019 - 10:14 AM

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View Postsplash_time, on 20 December 2019 - 07:49 AM, said:

Well, I'm grinding the line now, and I researched the Lynx already, the T7 was not bad, and they do have bad weaknesses, first one is:

  • they can't turn around like tracked tanks, and if they hit or stuck in a corner or anywhere, they're pretty much dead.
  • Lacking 25% view range compared to other lights, which means you must go closer to your enemy which can cost you a lot.
  • Fire rate of these things is really bad compared to other lights, so if u meet other tanks u can't trade verry well.
  • Etc

Yeah, they do have good speed but they still can be damaged/destroyed by other good players if you go yoloing to spot.

 


I agree on this one,i hated them just like arty-but just like arty i thought lets try them and pi55 others off :)



NUKLEAR_SLUG #13 Posted 20 December 2019 - 10:26 AM

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View Posttajj7, on 20 December 2019 - 09:33 AM, said:

As for the OP, no they are not OP, if you are losing to them in light tanks you are doing something wrong and they don't yolo around the map and get away with it, the majority of times they die uselessly, your confirmation bias is talking. 

 

Good catch, so yeah, either he missed or he just grazed an edge. 



apaleytos #14 Posted 20 December 2019 - 11:46 AM

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I am not an active player but these wheelies have distrupted the whole gameplay.Sure they are only OP when good players drive them but the whole yoloscout meta make me feel nauseus.Especially when there are like 4-6 LTs in every team and kill each other in mario kart battles during the first minute.Normal LTs feel they need to yoloscout  to get some spotting also resulting in getting killed.Even some "pro" players think WV are stupid.Maybe WG wanted to attract younger audience or they wanted to speed up the battles.Usually they last 4-5 min these days,how faster can it get.


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Schepel #15 Posted 20 December 2019 - 11:56 AM

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The EBR 90 is downright bad.

 

That said, I heartily agree that these things need to be rebalanced. A hit on a wheel should stop it. Idiot maneuvers should make it roll over. However, they need a gun that works. The reason the EBR 90 is, on balance, a bad tank is simply because you can't carry your own weight.



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This EBR menace reminds me of the good ol WTE100 or the type59 debacle.

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WVs should be balanced a bit, because in its current state - it ruins the gameplay

 

- fix the physics and hitboxes (no way it can turn at 90kmh like nothing or "critical hit" at direct hit)

- buff viewrange or allow to mount binos

- nerf ridiculous HE pen values

- remove improved autolock



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View PostRichthoffen, on 20 December 2019 - 08:26 AM, said:

even if he hit that skirt, a JPz shell should atleast rip off 3 wheels


Thats not how the game works

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View PostFrantisekBascovansky, on 20 December 2019 - 04:26 PM, said:

WVs should be balanced a bit, because in its current state - it ruins the gameplay

 

- fix the physics and hitboxes (no way it can turn at 90kmh like nothing or "critical hit" at direct hit)

- buff viewrange or allow to mount binos

- nerf ridiculous HE pen values

- remove improved autolock

 

Nothing wrong with the hitboxes,

Nothing wrong with viewrange, its balanced by the cammo and mobility.

Nothing wrong with HE pen, they need to be able to pen tanks back to be effective or you want to buff normal and prem rounds then?

Improved autolock is not used by good players for a reason, it does not help proper aim.



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View Postshikaka9, on 20 December 2019 - 07:45 AM, said:

"you really dont know what is OP or too strong Wheeled, untill you meet soviet ones"

 

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Trust me i know, but  you can still hit those when they drive a full speed, with wheeled tanks thats almost impossible.

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Thats not how the game works

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Nothing wrong with the hitboxes,

Nothing wrong with viewrange, its balanced by the cammo and mobility.

Nothing wrong with HE pen, they need to be able to pen tanks back to be effective or you want to buff normal and prem rounds then?

Improved autolock is not used by good players for a reason, it does not help proper aim.

and what about the other lights?  i can't get a proper match when i see those tanks.

Also the auto aim is used by every1 becasue you can't turn it off.

 

it just isn't balanced for this game, maybe when everyone had over 1500 shell velocity it might be balanced but almost no has that kind of ammo except for premium,  and its not like you want to fire premium rounds at a light.

 

They really need a nerve and doesn't have to be much. 

just nerve the speed but let them keep the boost to get to around 80 in 2 sec.

nerve the traverse speed because if i drive my car at 105 i can't  just make a 90 degree turn. "Just doesn't make sense"

 

if those things get nerved i don't even care if they have aim assist.



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View PostChristOfTheAbyss, on 20 December 2019 - 05:36 AM, said:


Replay? I bet you just hit the wheel, not the actual hull as its always the case.

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If Im in the game, never, as Im able to hit them. Its really not that hard. Just aim.

i've been playing wot for over 8 years now, and yes i hit them sometimes, but thats more luck then skill because you need to predict everytime where they are going.






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