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Tier 8 is not my cup of tea right now.


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So_So_English #1 Posted 20 December 2019 - 12:55 PM

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so I have posted in the MM thread my last 650 odd games at tier 8 where only 13 games I have seen tier 6 tanks, but over 300 games b vs tier 10, its useless

 

but its not just the MM

 

how do you play tier 8 vs premium tier 8s?

it is not just that they are better, any tier 8 premium is way better than any tier 8 tech tree tank but because they are premium tanks they have a massive credit advantage so you are fighting vs full gold

 

effectively tier 8 vs premium tier 8 is tier 7 vs tier 9

 

how have we got here

how is the MM still so totally [edited]

and can WG ever get this game into a good state or have the last 2 to 3 years totally destroyed any chance of this game getting back to its glory days when it was so much more fun and better balanced than it is now

 

 


Edited by Homer_J, 20 December 2019 - 01:18 PM.
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BR33K1_PAWAH #2 Posted 20 December 2019 - 12:58 PM

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MM is okay.

 

Spoiler

 



Crashzi #3 Posted 20 December 2019 - 12:59 PM

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TheDrownedApe #4 Posted 20 December 2019 - 12:59 PM

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i think most would agree that prior to the MM changes T8 was the worst to play due to the constant TX games. Then they changed it for the better and most were content but your 13/300 shows a huge disparity and "looks" bad. BUT is it any different at other tiers? I'm happy with rarely seeing -2 MM as they reduce the amount of damage you can get, reduce your exp earned and less credits (but then I'm chasing MoEs most of the time now). I suppose those that are grinding lines from stock need those lower tiers games to be able to have an influence.

Edited by TheDrownedApe, 20 December 2019 - 12:59 PM.


So_So_English #5 Posted 20 December 2019 - 01:00 PM

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View PostTheDrownedApe, on 20 December 2019 - 12:59 PM, said:

i think most would agree that prior to the MM changes T8 was the worst to tplay due to the constant TX games. Then they chnaged it for the better and most were content but your 13/300 shows a huge disparity and "looks" bad. BUT is it any different at other tiers? I'm happy with rarely seeing -2 MM as they reduce the amount of damage you can get, reduce your exp earned and less credits (but then I'm chasing MoEs most of the time now). I suppose those that are grinding lines from stock need those lower tiers games to be able to have an influence


not true

 

I did a 1000 game run on the old MM on my main account years ago and it was perfect split 



Balc0ra #6 Posted 20 December 2019 - 01:01 PM

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Tbh... most of my tier 8's see +0 games than anything else. Be they normal or premium tanks. Sure they see more tier 9 and X vs 6. But according to my replay manager, most of them are +0. So I can't really complain.

 

As it's definitely better then it used to. Then it was tier X constantly more or less unless you had a pref MM tier 8.


Edited by Balc0ra, 20 December 2019 - 01:01 PM.


Zylon0 #7 Posted 20 December 2019 - 01:02 PM

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The OP is right.

 

A good change would be to limit MM to +1-1 MM.

Where a tier 8 would only see tier 7 8 and 9.

 

Next give all premium tier 8 tanks that perform over 51% winrate their own seperate MM queue

If wargaming wont balance them, then at least let us avoid them.



BR33K1_PAWAH #8 Posted 20 December 2019 - 01:02 PM

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View PostF2PEXP, on 20 December 2019 - 03:00 PM, said:


not true

 

Nice argument

 



So_So_English #9 Posted 20 December 2019 - 01:05 PM

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View PostBR33K1_PAWAH, on 20 December 2019 - 01:02 PM, said:

 

Nice argument

 


and the second sentence?

 



tajj7 #10 Posted 20 December 2019 - 01:05 PM

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I've found tier 8 doesn't see tier 6 or 10 that often, probably tier 10 more often, but most games are all tier 8.

 

There are also plenty of strong and decent tech tree tier 8s (VK 100.01 P, Caern, 53TP, Lttb , JP2, Borsig, Charioteer, T28, Pantera, T-44 etc.) , they are just probably not on lines people are grinding that much.

 

We also have a very experienced playerbased with lots of tier 10s unlocked, for a lot of players like me there is no real reason to play tier 8 unless its to grind credits in tier 8 premiums or if I decide to 3 mark a tier 8 tank. 

 

I also don't think most premium tank users spam premium ammo, almost the opposite because they are credit grinding and want to maximise profit. 



BR33K1_PAWAH #11 Posted 20 December 2019 - 01:10 PM

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View PostF2PEXP, on 20 December 2019 - 03:05 PM, said:


and the second sentence?

 

Why? You have some proof to back up that made up statement of yours?



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View PostZylon0, on 20 December 2019 - 01:02 PM, said:

The OP is right.

 

A good change would be to limit MM to +1-1 MM.

Where a tier 8 would only see tier 7 8 and 9.

 

And tier 11 tanks to be matched only against tier 11 and 10.


Edited by FrantisekBascovansky, 20 December 2019 - 01:11 PM.


Rati_Festa #13 Posted 20 December 2019 - 01:14 PM

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Has it ever been declared by WG why they release the majority of prem tanks at T8?

 

It has certainly morphed that tier into a different playing experience compared to t7 and t9.



So_So_English #14 Posted 20 December 2019 - 01:14 PM

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View PostBR33K1_PAWAH, on 20 December 2019 - 01:10 PM, said:

 

Why? You have some proof to back up that made up statement of yours?


as the post was several years ago no, but if you want to search the forum it will be there in the MM thread, the old MM thread

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Homer_J #15 Posted 20 December 2019 - 01:19 PM

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View PostF2PEXP, on 20 December 2019 - 12:14 PM, said:


as the post was several years ago no, but if you want to search the forum it will be there in the MM thread, the old MM thread

 

Whis is where the rest of this should be isn't  it.

 

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