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PayToWinDude #1 Posted 22 December 2019 - 01:09 PM

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I mean its New Year, who  care for Lansen C or  Lorraine40t,they are on sell throughout all year...are they will se pay to win tanks?

RamRaid90 #2 Posted 22 December 2019 - 01:12 PM

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Lol obviously never played E25 if you think it's pay to win.

 

It's a great platform that 90% of the playerbase utterly fail to use correctly. Maybe it was great 5 years ago. Now? You'll struggle with most tier VIIIs even with premium.



Balc0ra #3 Posted 22 December 2019 - 01:12 PM

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E25 is too situational to be true p2w. But... with 2 days left. I suspect it's a fair chance for it tomorrow.

Stevies_Team #4 Posted 22 December 2019 - 02:59 PM

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Most E25s I see are played pretty poorly, interesting tonk though

 

You missed the AMx13-75 a couple of days ago?

Now that's a fun machine



TheJumpMaster #5 Posted 22 December 2019 - 03:18 PM

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View PostBalc0ra, on 22 December 2019 - 02:12 PM, said:

E25 is too situational to be true p2w. But... with 2 days left. I suspect it's a fair chance for it tomorrow.

 

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Inappropriate_noob #6 Posted 22 December 2019 - 03:55 PM

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View PostRamRaid90, on 22 December 2019 - 01:12 PM, said:

Lol obviously never played E25 if you think it's pay to win.

 

It's a great platform that 90% of the playerbase utterly fail to use correctly. Maybe it was great 5 years ago. Now? You'll struggle with most tier VIIIs even with premium.

So just out of interest how do you play it correctly? This is a true mystery as I have seen the vids where the unicoms (I mean CC's) sit out in the open ususally using it's superb camo rating etc and blat away at anything that moves, I try the same thing and get instantly blatted?

 

So please explain how to use this thing, andI mean it, i would like to be better in this TD.



Ratriq #7 Posted 22 December 2019 - 04:10 PM

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View PostInappropriate_noob, on 22 December 2019 - 02:55 PM, said:

So just out of interest how do you play it correctly? This is a true mystery as I have seen the vids where the unicoms (I mean CC's) sit out in the open ususally using it's superb camo rating etc and blat away at anything that moves, I try the same thing and get instantly blatted?

 

So please explain how to use this thing, andI mean it, i would like to be better in this TD.

Superb camo rating does not equal invisible, always try to hide in bushes cause the special ability of the E 25, almost no camo drop when firing, also remember to not get too close to your enemy and you should be fine.
There's a fine little line with the E 25, it should most of the time not be too far away from the enemy, always change positions and such so you'll be close to the action cause of its speed & mobility and get into positions where you can unleash your terrifying DPM where you're enemy can't go back to cover in 2 seconds. But also don't get too close where you'll get spotted.

Played right, it can be a terrifying hidden opponent with it's DPM and camo. Played wrong and it can become mostly harmless.



FrantisekBascovansky #8 Posted 22 December 2019 - 04:25 PM

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Last thing we all need in randoms is E25 hordes flooding matchmaker.

Lycopersicon #9 Posted 22 December 2019 - 04:32 PM

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View PostRamRaid90, on 22 December 2019 - 02:12 PM, said:

Lol obviously never played E25 if you think it's pay to win.

 

It's a great platform that 90% of the playerbase utterly fail to use correctly. Maybe it was great 5 years ago. Now? You'll struggle with most tier VIIIs even with premium.

 

But realistically, when did you last see one having a bad game? Whenever I notice one in my battles, it invariably ends up in the top five of its team, regardless of the map and regardless of the rating of the player. I mean, it is certainly possible to fail hard in an E25, and when/if it gets sold then we'll have a month-long infestation of them, they'll step on each others' toes and eating each others' damage, but normally, it definitely seems to be a guaranteed success machine.



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View PostInappropriate_noob, on 22 December 2019 - 02:55 PM, said:

So just out of interest how do you play it correctly? This is a true mystery as I have seen the vids where the unicoms (I mean CC's) sit out in the open ususally using it's superb camo rating etc and blat away at anything that moves, I try the same thing and get instantly blatted?

 

So please explain how to use this thing, andI mean it, i would like to be better in this TD.

I'm not amazing in mine, but I have 236 wins from 416 battles, which can't simply be coincidence.

 

I do tend to use the speed to get to a good position for sniping as quickly as possible. I keep it up as long as I can, but I'm always ready to run. If I'm spotted or needed elsewhere then the speed allows me to bug out quickly. 

 

In one battle I did around 3km of travelling and carried the battle. All on about 40 HP. I have no idea why I didn't upload that replay.

 

I carry 10 rounds of APCR and no HE. It's not worth it. I now use rammer, optics and vents.

 

It's worth noting that I have a very good female crew shared with the Borsig and StuG IV. 

 

1.41 kpg. 1012 HP damage/game. 1.26 spots and 380 HP assist. Over 3K damage is my maximum, with a gun that does 135 average damage. Easily over 22 damaging hits if we assume some low HP kills.



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View PostTheJumpMaster, on 22 December 2019 - 03:18 PM, said:

 

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Elleriel #12 Posted 22 December 2019 - 05:04 PM

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View PostPayToWinDude, on 22 December 2019 - 12:09 PM, said:

I mean its New Year, who  care for Lansen C or  Lorraine40t,they are on sell throughout all year...are they will se pay to win tanks?

 E25 is not always fun to play.

I already lost some matchs with it because of lack of ammos.

New scouts spot you far away.

You can't bounce anything.

And some maps are just awfull for you (as for most TDs) and don't think you can do medium role; it's just a joke.

It's not a bad tank, you can have some fun with it but bad for platoon because of preferential Match making (unless everyone is on E25 in platoon).

I would not recommend it.



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View PostRamRaid90, on 22 December 2019 - 01:12 PM, said:

Lol obviously never played E25 if you think it's pay to win.

To be fair you do have to spend spend spend on gold ammo if you want to make the most of the E25.  Don't think I've ever turned a profit on mine.  :)


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RamRaid90 #14 Posted 22 December 2019 - 05:17 PM

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View PostLycopersicon, on 22 December 2019 - 03:32 PM, said:

 

But realistically, when did you last see one having a bad game? Whenever I notice one in my battles, it invariably ends up in the top five of its team, regardless of the map and regardless of the rating of the player. I mean, it is certainly possible to fail hard in an E25, and when/if it gets sold then we'll have a month-long infestation of them, they'll step on each others' toes and eating each others' damage, but normally, it definitely seems to be a guaranteed success machine.

 

Last time it was sold, you didn't really see many of them. Mainly because after a couple of battles the noobs realised the whole E25 OP thing was aa legend from years ago.

 

The tank in todays meta benefits from very little compared to other tanks of its tier. Yes it can dish out some good DPM, but it lacks the penetration thanks to it's old style poor penetration. It can no longer pen the meta heavy tanks, and is vastly outperformed by todays tier VIII meta lights in terms of being hidden.

The LT 432 is much better at the E25s job.

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View PostInappropriate_noob, on 22 December 2019 - 02:55 PM, said:

So just out of interest how do you play it correctly? This is a true mystery as I have seen the vids where the unicoms (I mean CC's) sit out in the open ususally using it's superb camo rating etc and blat away at anything that moves, I try the same thing and get instantly blatted?

 

So please explain how to use this thing, andI mean it, i would like to be better in this TD.

 

I don't really play it, sold mine for credits long ago as its just not that fun.

 

However, it's not a "sit still snipe and profit tank" In todays game it haas to be forever on the move, relocating after every few shots. There are very few positions in WoT today where an E25 can sit and spend it's  whole battle farming.



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Should have bought the 13 57. Now that is a fun tank.

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El_Cabanos #17 Posted 22 December 2019 - 05:46 PM

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This tank has been on sale all time in game currency GOLD , they removed him in 2015 , WG add many many times this tank on the shop later , You are sleep all this time ?? this hype for E25 is soo sad 

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View PostPayToWinDude, on 22 December 2019 - 12:09 PM, said:

Any chance for some fun tank, like E25 or somthing?

 

I got it, never played it. 

 



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View PostEl_Cabanos, on 22 December 2019 - 04:46 PM, said:

This tank has been on sale all time in game currency GOLD , they removed him in 2015 , WG add many many times this tank on the shop later , You are sleep all this time ?? this hype for E25 is soo sad 

 

It has been sold once since it was removed.



Balc0ra #20 Posted 22 December 2019 - 05:56 PM

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View PostTheJumpMaster, on 22 December 2019 - 03:18 PM, said:

 

Tomorrow is the golden Waffentrager Auf. E 100

 

€99 or €499?

 

View PostInappropriate_noob, on 22 December 2019 - 03:55 PM, said:

So just out of interest how do you play it correctly? This is a true mystery as I have seen the vids where the unicoms (I mean CC's) sit out in the open ususally using it's superb camo rating etc and blat away at anything that moves, I try the same thing and get instantly blatted?

 

Open maps is where it does excel. But due to the low caliber for overmatch and low pen. You need sides or weak targets to farm well. On the more narrow maps or with aggressive enemy lights. They relocate to much to be as effective constantly, so then you need to plan more. Personally I stay on the 2nd line and try to move with the lights or meds in the areas they spot or cover. On the more narrow maps, distracted targets is what you need. If you get focused, you can't stick around. Even vs low tier guns.

 

View PostLycopersicon, on 22 December 2019 - 04:32 PM, said:

 

But realistically, when did you last see one having a bad game? Whenever I notice one in my battles, it invariably ends up in the top five of its team, regardless of the map and regardless of the rating of the player. I mean, it is certainly possible to fail hard in an E25, and when/if it gets sold then we'll have a month-long infestation of them, they'll step on each others' toes and eating each others' damage, but normally, it definitely seems to be a guaranteed success machine.

 

Guaranteed? Either way it's no Defender. And won't forgive mistakes. As in then it will eat you up. So thus one of the reasons why I don't consider it 100% p2w, and rather situational for most. Even if you know how to play it, you need a bit of luck too. And sure some do well in it that I see. But most fail badly in it, or play it at the front brawling. As that last one is how I see most die in it. But due to the ROF they might get enough damage to get high up even then for a solid spot, or get yolo assist. But more so then not, I don't see them with 3K damage that often anymore vs before to be as good as it once was in the metas of old. 

 

View PostEl_Cabanos, on 22 December 2019 - 05:46 PM, said:

This tank has been on sale all time in game currency GOLD , they removed him in 2015 , WG add many many times this tank on the shop later , You are sleep all this time ?? this hype for E25 is soo sad 

 

All the time? It was in the tech tree for gold at one point. But after it's removal it was not sold for almost 2 years. And since then it's been sold 3 times for cash only, not gold. All of them in the Xmas calendar. If it appears again, it will be the first time it can be bought for gold since it's removal in 2014.


Edited by Balc0ra, 22 December 2019 - 05:58 PM.





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