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_cro_magnon #1 Posted 26 December 2019 - 03:50 AM

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So, really, honestly, how bad this thing is? I just bought it and... well I just bought it because it's pretty tank regardless of stats. :D

GrannyPanties #2 Posted 26 December 2019 - 04:52 AM

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Only bad thing about the tank is the armor, that it. It like a France version of Leopard 1

Spurtung #3 Posted 26 December 2019 - 05:49 AM

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View PostGrannyPanties, on 26 December 2019 - 03:52 AM, said:

Only bad thing about the tank is the armor, that it. It like a France version of Leopard 1

 

So that one has a bad armor and you say it's a version of the Leopard 1, which has none and is covered with ammo rack on the outside.



fwhaatpiraat #4 Posted 26 December 2019 - 07:12 AM

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Just look at the gun stats.

Desyatnik_Pansy #5 Posted 26 December 2019 - 07:32 AM

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View Postfwhaatpiraat, on 26 December 2019 - 06:12 AM, said:

Just look at the gun stats.

 

Lemme do the honours. From tanks.gg, which also AFAIK Uses 100% Crews on the base stats of course:

-390/390/480 Damage

-248/300//53 Penetration (APCR/HEAT/HE)

-7.48 Base reload

-1.92 Aimtime

-0.35 Dispersion

-0.12/0.12/0.04 (moving/tank traverse/hull traverse)

-1100/800/700 m/s 



splash_time #6 Posted 26 December 2019 - 08:09 AM

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View PostDesyatnik_Pansy, on 26 December 2019 - 09:32 AM, said:

 

Lemme do the honours. From tanks.gg, which also AFAIK Uses 100% Crews on the base stats of course:

-390/390/480 Damage

-248/300//53 Penetration (APCR/HEAT/HE)

-7.48 Base reload

-1.92 Aimtime

-0.35 Dispersion

-0.12/0.12/0.04 (moving/tank traverse/hull traverse)

-1100/800/700 m/s 

 

Good one to be fair ,but needs a bit better penetration values. 



fwhaatpiraat #7 Posted 26 December 2019 - 08:34 AM

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View PostDesyatnik_Pansy, on 26 December 2019 - 07:32 AM, said:

 

Lemme do the honours. From tanks.gg, which also AFAIK Uses 100% Crews on the base stats of course:

-390/390/480 Damage

-248/300//53 Penetration (APCR/HEAT/HE)

-7.48 Base reload

-1.92 Aimtime

-0.35 Dispersion

-0.12/0.12/0.04 (moving/tank traverse/hull traverse)

-1100/800/700 m/s 

Gracias, so compared to the Leo 1 or Cent AX it lacks penetration, accuracy and shell speed. I don't know all bloom values by heart but they are probably about the same. it just feels (to me) like a much worse gun, although with better dpm. 

 

Such gun stats to me make sense at tier 9. Amx 30 combines great speed with dpm. But at tier 10? Leopard 1 (for longer range) and STB-1 or TVP (for shorter range) make more sense to me. 


Edited by fwhaatpiraat, 26 December 2019 - 08:35 AM.


BR33K1_PAWAH #8 Posted 26 December 2019 - 09:05 AM

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View PostDesyatnik_Pansy, on 26 December 2019 - 09:32 AM, said:

 

Lemme do the honours. From tanks.gg, which also AFAIK Uses 100% Crews on the base stats of course:

-390/390/480 Damage

-248/300//53 Penetration (APCR/HEAT/HE)

-7.48 Base reload

-1.92 Aimtime

-0.35 Dispersion

-0.12/0.12/0.04 (moving/tank traverse/hull traverse)

-1100/800/700 m/s 

It's the lowest turret traverse dispersion i've ever seen! :ohmy:


Edited by BR33K1_PAWAH, 26 December 2019 - 09:06 AM.


Desyatnik_Pansy #9 Posted 26 December 2019 - 09:07 AM

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View PostBR33K1_PAWAH, on 26 December 2019 - 08:05 AM, said:

It's the lowest turret traverse dispersion i've ever seen! :ohmy:

 

EBR 105 Has 0.03 And EBR 90 Is joint with 0.04. Besides that though, well, tanks.gg doesn't allow me to list by softstats unfortunately. 



BR33K1_PAWAH #10 Posted 26 December 2019 - 09:12 AM

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View PostDesyatnik_Pansy, on 26 December 2019 - 11:07 AM, said:

 

EBR 105 Has 0.03 And EBR 90 Is joint with 0.04. Besides that though, well, tanks.gg doesn't allow me to list by softstats unfortunately. 

 

OP WVs doesn't count :P



Nitro_Tank #11 Posted 26 December 2019 - 10:01 AM

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Just worse than Leo 1 in every single way except 10 meters viewrange (which is offset by your MASSIVE CUPOLA)

fwhaatpiraat #12 Posted 26 December 2019 - 10:46 AM

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View PostBR33K1_PAWAH, on 26 December 2019 - 09:12 AM, said:

 

OP WVs doesn't count :P

STRVs in siege mode sport 0.01 even.



demon_tank #13 Posted 26 December 2019 - 11:10 AM

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Its not bad per say. But whats the point playing it when Leopard and STB exist in the game ?

 

Its just obsolete or irrelevant and not a bad tank.



shikaka9 #14 Posted 26 December 2019 - 11:44 AM

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its bad like french tank in a russian game ... oh wait .. 

Robbie_T #15 Posted 26 December 2019 - 02:05 PM

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Verry bad

Although a unicum kicked my *ss in that tank 2 weeks ago



_cro_magnon #16 Posted 26 December 2019 - 04:20 PM

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View Postdemon_tank, on 26 December 2019 - 11:10 AM, said:

Its not bad per say. But whats the point playing it when Leopard and STB exist in the game ?

 

Cuz Vive la France obviously.

 



_cro_magnon #17 Posted 27 December 2019 - 02:26 AM

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Slight update: the gun is trash.

ValkyrionX #18 Posted 27 December 2019 - 11:24 AM

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in reality it could be an excellent tank , in reality it is not.

The gun has too low penetration with both apcr and the heat.

 

The apcr penetrate little compared to all the other meds tiers X, however, are quite fast and precise, the heat are slow, very inaccurate and with too low penetration.

 

The dpm is really excellent as well as the mobility of the vehicle and the other features, it would be enough to give it a decent gun to make it a more playable vehicle as at present it is really a pain to play.



skero #19 Posted 27 December 2019 - 01:03 PM

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Grinding through AMX 30 prot. at the moment and it is very enjoyable fast tank, love it. Alpha is very satisfying. But certainly you cannot yolo like in Obj. 430U,




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