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ZDN #1 Posted 30 December 2019 - 11:07 AM

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Project 42 has shown us some info about wot in 2020.The new italian tier 10 heavy line Carro Armato OTO Melara OF-40.

 

And the japanese td line.Tier 10 Type 5 Ho-ri,wg has 2 versions one based on the jagdtige and one on the type 5 without a turret using a 203 naval gun.

 

And some info about the swiss tech tree,yes 3 line for the swiss nation.Tier 10 td taifun,and e25 in tier 10 that has a top speed of 72 km/h and low profile that gives the tank a good camo rating,and a good dmg,but low alpha and it has no armor.

 

Tier 10 medium panzer 68,it is an upgraded amx 30/30b.

And the tier 10 heavy panzer 74f ,it has a hydropneumatic suspension, good top speed of 68km/h,and a strong turret 250/100/50.Plus a good gun with and automated loading system.


Edited by ZDN, 30 December 2019 - 11:12 AM.


GodTank2 #2 Posted 30 December 2019 - 11:26 AM

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there won't be a Japanese td line. They already said that such a line wouldnt be very interesting

vonadnan #3 Posted 30 December 2019 - 12:00 PM

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View PostGodTank2, on 30 December 2019 - 10:26 AM, said:

there won't be a Japanese td line. They already said that such a line wouldnt be very interesting

Yeah , could'nt care less for those, but spaghetti heavy with autoreloader.. gimme!  :) 



shikaka9 #4 Posted 30 December 2019 - 12:21 PM

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View PostGodTank2, on 30 December 2019 - 10:26 AM, said:

there won't be a Japanese td line. They already said that such a line wouldnt be very interesting

 are u sure because last news about Japan TD was moved from "not interesting" to "plausible"... and maybe I dreamed but something was in the works, but not soon


Edited by shikaka9, 30 December 2019 - 12:21 PM.


1ucky #5 Posted 30 December 2019 - 12:27 PM

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Great stuff!

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View PostGodTank2, on 30 December 2019 - 12:26 PM, said:

there won't be a Japanese td line. They already said that such a line wouldnt be very interesting

The JPN TD line was just confirmed a few months ago, and WoT Blitz is going to get them sooner than we will.

 

As for the Swiss stuff, I remember they said they'll look into it in 2015/16 or sometime @ that, but I really hope they still consider it. Would be a nice surprise.

 

And I really don't feel the OF-40 as a plausible option, we'll most likely get some paper-only Progetto again...



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Project 42 is wg russian info team.So it is real.They say that swiss was planned before poland and italian lines.

Edited by ZDN, 30 December 2019 - 12:35 PM.


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View PostZDN, on 30 December 2019 - 11:34 AM, said:

Project 42 is wg russian info team.So it is real.They say that swiss was planned before poland and italian lines.

 

Same as there is enough info for SWE and ITA clickers but they won't add them because reasons.

 

But yeah, IJA campers were comfirmed (as per the sig). But 203mm? Please, no. The JagdCancer E 100 is already a pain in the rear armour.



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View PostZDN, on 30 December 2019 - 11:34 AM, said:

Project 42 is wg russian info team.So it is real.They say that swiss was planned before poland and italian lines.

 

Are we even 100% Certain that it's actually real information? Just saying.

 

Mind you, I would be ecstatic to know the Swiss are genuinely coming. I remember making mods for Mizutayio for a Swiss thing years back alongside Milkym4n and FastestClassic, and one of the main reasons I'm stockpiling ridiculous amounts of Free XP (almost 2mil) is kinda in hope for a Swiss tree. I just hope they don't really screw them up, and I'll be definitely sad if they suffer the fate of new trees as well and have like no camo options.



MrEdweird #10 Posted 30 December 2019 - 11:40 PM

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With the 74 it looks like we'll get yet another L11 tank that isn't a Chieftain.

Mirukii #11 Posted 30 December 2019 - 11:41 PM

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View PostZDN, on 30 December 2019 - 12:07 PM, said:

Tier 10 medium panzer 68,it is an upgraded amx 30/30b.

 

Except it's not. The Panzer 68 is a derivative of the KW 30 project that started back in the early 50s. Saying the Panzer 68 is just an upgraded AMX 30 is gross falsehood.



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Hungarian would be much more interesting than the Swiss.

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View PostGardar7, on 30 December 2019 - 10:45 PM, said:

Hungarian would be much more interesting than the Swiss.

 

*REEEEEES in fake German*



SoupFork #14 Posted 31 December 2019 - 01:02 AM

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I’m 100% for any new line of any new nation (or group) as long as it doesn’t have:

 

- T-34 variations 

- M4 variations 

- Panther variations

- Centurion variations 

 

to pad out the lines. NEW tanks pls.



DrzavniUdar #15 Posted 31 December 2019 - 01:09 AM

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Wg neglected arties. There is enough material for japanese and italian spg and i saw people talking about swe spg also

Balc0ra #16 Posted 31 December 2019 - 03:23 AM

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View PostGodTank2, on 30 December 2019 - 11:26 AM, said:

there won't be a Japanese td line. They already said that such a line wouldnt be very interesting

 

That remains to be seen. As there is a full TD line for Blitz. And for the first time... they will see how it works there for us.

 

View PostDrzavniUdar, on 31 December 2019 - 01:09 AM, said:

Wg neglected arties. There is enough material for japanese and italian spg and i saw people talking about swe spg also

 

Because they don't want to focus their efforts on a class they still don't feel they have balanced, and will be changed soon... again. And add more hate towards the class with everyone grinding the new line suddenly.



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View PostSoupFork, on 31 December 2019 - 01:02 AM, said:

I’m 100% for any new line of any new nation (or group) as long as it doesn’t have:

 

- T-34 variations 

- M4 variations 

- Panther variations

- Centurion variations 

 

to pad out the lines. NEW tanks pls.

 

After 600 tanks, everything is a variation on something that went before.



Killtech #18 Posted 31 December 2019 - 03:51 AM

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i guess this video is what this topic has its info from? http://forum.worldoftanks.eu/index.php?/topic/730861-new-tech-tree-lines-and-a-new-nation-in-2020/ . they also go through some premiums and all the lower tier tanks which is quite interesting - especially low tier italians: omg tier 2 & 6! wait, what? is there a 2nd multi-turreted heavy line?

 

View PostGodTank2, on 30 December 2019 - 10:26 AM, said:

there won't be a Japanese td line. They already said that such a line wouldnt be very interesting

 

japanese TDs are already announced for Blitz and scheduled for release in summer. i very much doubt WG would do all the work and not add it to PC as well though the release might be different. 

 

 


Edited by Killtech, 31 December 2019 - 04:02 AM.


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View PostBalc0ra, on 31 December 2019 - 03:23 AM, said:

Because they don't want to focus their efforts on a class they still don't feel they have balanced, and will be changed soon... again. And add more hate towards the class with everyone grinding the new line suddenly.

and you know for fact it will be changed soon.



leggasiini #20 Posted 31 December 2019 - 03:01 PM

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I watched the same video recently (it's in Russian and I can't read Russian...but could roughly understand the content from the video).

 

From what I understood, it's not a "leak", but more a speculation if anything.  There's too many stuff that doesn't really make sense and I highly doubt it's anything more than speculation.

 

The speculated Italian HT line is a mess and doesn't really go well with WG's ideology of consistent lines. It has a straight up Sherman at tier 6 (???), as well as some kind of Pershing clone as tier 7. Not just that, the line starts from tier 2, which is extremely unlikely considering WG wants to strip out low tiers to make the low tier progression easier. It is extremely unlikely the line will start anywhere below tier 5-6. Neither did the French EBR line or British LTs (both of those lines could've easily been tier 2-10), so I highly doubt Italian HT line will start at those tiers either. The tier 8-10 are also flawed, they are basically 80s MBT designs. Tier 10 is MBT-70, which while not completely impossible for WoT, doesn't really fit the line and I highly doubt even WG would bring in an autoreloader...with a 152 mm gun, not to mention its not even consistent with the branch.

 

My prediction is that the HT line will simply be some extremely obscure designs based on...something WG "found". In other news, (mostly) fictional designs. I also feel like the line will be just tier 8-10 or maybe tier 7-10, as the tier 5-7 already share aspects with heavy tanks. I'm guessing they are going to be post-war tanks, so either some kind of heaviums or E5/Super Conqueror type tanks with autoreloaders (autoreloader was confirmed). It also discusses potential super-heavies with multi-turrets, which already got deconfirmed by WG.

 

Japanese TD line were announced on Blitz, will be just tier 7-10, start from the Chi-To, the tier X is "Ho-Ri Type 3" and the line will be released in Summer 2020. TD line has been mentioned several times by WG for PC as well, and could very well arrive around same time as it does on Blitz, but it hasn't been directly confirmed just yet. I'd expect them to use at least some resources from Blitz, so it'd make sense that the Japanese TD line is (more or less) the same as on Blitz. That being said, the line could very well be tier 4-10 (like other TD lines has been on Sandbox) for PC like on the video, but hard to say for now, as it hasn't been confirmed for PC yet. Considering they have already done some work on Blitz, I wouldn't be anyhow surprised if the 2nd line they announced was the Japanese TDs.

 

203 mm Type 5 Heavy TD hasn't been mentioned by WG, but instead made by Japanese WoT community for their Japanese tech tree proposal because they feel like there's no historical candidate for tier 10 (even though it'd be much better to just take some of the Ho-Ri variants and buff it to tier 10 levels, which is exactly what Blitz has done). Besides, good luck balancing a *203* mm naval gun on a tier X TD with the same hull as the Type 5 Heavy which already has poorly designed armor layout. It would have ridiculous overmatching capabilities and at very least +1300 AP alpha. Good luck making such a monstrosity balanced without making it neither utterly horrible to play or horrible to play against.

 

And I don't recall Swiss tree being even mentioned by WG...but considering it has multiple branches that potentially could be very unique, I am surprised WG hasn't explored the possibilities yet. 






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