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martynas13 #1 Posted 03 January 2020 - 11:32 AM

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What do you think about limiting premium tanks in the game ? (like they did with arty) . I think its really  too much tanks , when half of enemy team is premium tanks...  Grinding for a F2P player is really painful  and disgusting . Can you imagine playing stock tank against all those defenders , double barrels and so on . I know that waiting time might increase,  but i would rather wait than get slaughtered by 8 premium tanks  and ALT+ F4 this game . 

Spartanite #2 Posted 03 January 2020 - 11:41 AM

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But that would mean the paying customer would have to wait, while the free to play player wouldn't - hardly good business sense is it?

Balc0ra #3 Posted 03 January 2020 - 11:41 AM

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On some tiers, like tier 8 where most play with premiums for income, and half the tanks on both teams are premiums. It would mean a wait time on 60 to 120 seconds if you pay vs if you play a free tech tree tank that might get sorted faster with MM teams with no or less limits for their tanks.

 

And to be fair, tier 8 has its fair share of nasty on both sides. Be it the Premium Defender or VK 100.01. If you are stock it matters little what of those you face first. As if you play normal tier 8's. There are other 750 alpha guns I fear more so than the 780 slap I might get from a 703 in my stock tanks.



SIPU #4 Posted 03 January 2020 - 11:51 AM

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Why? It does not matter if there are the premium tanks or maxed our best non-premiums. Either way it is s****y to fight them in stock vehicle. I would rather go against T8 premiums than for example T9 or T10 tanks (Obj 279 anyone?).

Stevies_Team #5 Posted 03 January 2020 - 11:54 AM

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WoT would never do that, it would lose them money

 

Players who pay hard cash would play less WoT

Players who subsidise your FTP account would be less inclined to play

 

Bear in mind that as a FTP player you are a welfare case



wsatnutter #6 Posted 03 January 2020 - 12:22 PM

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View PostStevies_Team, on 03 January 2020 - 10:54 AM, said:

WoT would never do that, it would lose them money

 

Players who pay hard cash would play less WoT

Players who subsidise your FTP account would be less inclined to play

 

Bear in mind that as a FTP player you are a welfare case

a bit harsh



Stevies_Team #7 Posted 03 January 2020 - 12:30 PM

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Team Fortress etc was run by volunteers so the server "owner" could do as they pleased but WoT is a billion dollar business model

 

At least they allow FTP, which is a very big concession

Plus for balance, pay-to-win players can't buy anything over Tier 8

 

A FTP player who works hard and gets T10 tonks and reward tanks can come online and kick my butt any day of the week

(and many do)

 

Diehard FTP players are what keeps the WoT playerbase going, so at the end of the day they are the people who can get the best rewards

 

WoT have developed a clever symbiotic system which actually works

 

FTP players have the greater motivation and enhance gameplay while Pay-to-play players pay the bills


Edited by Stevies_Team, 03 January 2020 - 12:43 PM.


BravelyRanAway #8 Posted 03 January 2020 - 12:42 PM

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View Postmartynas13, on 03 January 2020 - 10:32 AM, said:

What do you think about limiting premium tanks in the game ? (like they did with arty) . I think its really  too much tanks , when half of enemy team is premium tanks...  Grinding for a F2P player is really painful  and disgusting . Can you imagine playing stock tank against all those defenders , double barrels and so on . I know that waiting time might increase,  but i would rather wait than get slaughtered by 8 premium tanks  and ALT+ F4 this game . 

Which premium tanks?....which ones....is it all of them?

If, all of them, I don't think you know what you're talking about.

Have you looked at your own premium tank usage?.....it doesn't exactly bolster your claim to have them restricted, in fact....quite the opposite.



Gremlin182 #9 Posted 03 January 2020 - 12:44 PM

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You do what most of us have had to do since the game began.

A stock tank is generally bad no question and some stock grinds are truly awful.

So

Just play a couple of games each day before moving on to your other tanks this minimises the pain and you will unlock modules soon enough.

Pay cash and use free xp to unlock modules.

Use loads of premium ammo to reduce the bad effects of being undergunned.

 

Its probably not impossible for the MM to handle these matters though there is little sign of that happening.

Stock tanks could be weighted differently or have limited mm though it would probably take a lot of work to set up and balance.

 

Easier just to pay or suffer and right now its a heck of a lot easier to get past a stock grind.

I am playing the 53tp and disliking it intensely.

So I placed it in the special tier 8 slot from the holiday ops that gives me +50% xp throw on a personal reserve thats another 100% or 50% xp depending what you have available.

 

Already unlocked the engine turret and suspension now working on the second gun.

Never been a better time to grind stock tanks so get on with it.



Gardar7 #10 Posted 03 January 2020 - 12:50 PM

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I have never had problem with that. With a stock tank it sucks anyway, doesn't matter if I face with a fully equipped techtree tank or premium. VK100.01 or Mauerbrecher, Defender or IS-3, Pantera or Pinocchio, T-44 or T-54mod.1/T-44-100, Udes03 or Strv S1, etc., all of them are difficult to deal with in a stock tank. 

__Eric__ #11 Posted 03 January 2020 - 12:57 PM

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Whines about Defenders on the enemy team while having an Obj. 252U himself........sounds legit.

BR33K1_PAWAH #12 Posted 03 January 2020 - 01:03 PM

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Yes. Let's also limit a number of fully researched tanks in battle. 

Can you imagine playing a stock tank against all those non-stock tanks? That's totally unfair!



Balc0ra #13 Posted 03 January 2020 - 01:08 PM

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View PostBR33K1_PAWAH, on 03 January 2020 - 01:03 PM, said:

Yes. Let's also limit a number of fully researched tanks in battle. 

Can you imagine playing a stock tank against all those non-stock tanks? That's totally unfair!

 

You want to take a stock tank, or even an elite T32 vs a VK 100.01? Or an IS-6 vs a Defender? Either way, there will be gaps. Premium tanks or not. 


Edited by Balc0ra, 03 January 2020 - 01:09 PM.


Cobra6 #14 Posted 03 January 2020 - 01:18 PM

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Unfortunate result of the rampant premium tank spam and change in doctrine of balancing premiums.

 

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Gixxer66 #15 Posted 03 January 2020 - 01:45 PM

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View Post__Eric__, on 03 January 2020 - 11:57 AM, said:

Whines about Defenders on the enemy team while having an Obj. 252U himself........sounds legit.

 

Whines about too many Premium tanks playing but his 2 most played tanks are T8 Prems ........



24doom24 #16 Posted 03 January 2020 - 02:27 PM

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impossible.

StronkiTonki #17 Posted 03 January 2020 - 09:16 PM

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Pretty sure this would make MM times unbearable.

Don't get me wrong, I udnerstand what you mean, most tier 8 matches are like 80% premium tanks. And I even get sich of some of the more OP ones as well. (Defender, IS-3A, Skorpions etc)

But it doesn't make sense to limit them, and in a lot of cases, they're still like normal tanks.

In the end, everyone would suffer from horrible MM times, simply not worth it.






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