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B_Complex #1 Posted 04 January 2020 - 03:24 PM

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So after spending time getting FV4005 first impression is that this tank is design to die. Whats a point of HESH with this insanely unstable pen of 230 on tier X? And why is FV215b(183) is still in game with wayyyyyyyyyyyy better stat? wouldn't be more reasonable to at least give FV4005 mobility since its paper thin armor? Or higher camo rating so it wont get spotted across the map? Or change HESH from that stupid 1700 dmg? why not make it like British version of grille? High mobility 750 dmg and 1000 dmg with hesh? 

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Nitro_Tank #2 Posted 04 January 2020 - 03:27 PM

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Being able to oneshot should come with alot of drawbacks, glad this [edited] got nerfed

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B_Complex #3 Posted 04 January 2020 - 03:33 PM

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View PostNitro_Tank, on 04 January 2020 - 02:27 PM, said:

Being able to oneshot should come with alot of drawbacks, glad this [edited] got nerfed

Yea but whats a point of adding craplike that to a game? And not removing advance version of it? Why not make it a playable TD with a normal dmg? So far all this tank got is drawbacks with slim chance of 1shoting something. It is pretty much useless T10 tank that plays like arty by camping in spawn. 



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You've got mobility...? 

mpf1959 #5 Posted 04 January 2020 - 03:35 PM

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Well, someone was clearly doing ok in theirs last night on El Halluf, when they put me out of the game with a shot for around 700 hp!

B_Complex #6 Posted 04 January 2020 - 03:35 PM

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View PostNUKLEAR_SLUG, on 04 January 2020 - 02:33 PM, said:

You've got mobility...? 

nope 30km forward 12 backward so you cant even dodge arty and trust me this thing is a magnet for it 



ccoolliinn_1 #7 Posted 04 January 2020 - 03:37 PM

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View PostNitro_Tank, on 04 January 2020 - 03:27 PM, said:

Being able to oneshot should come with alot of drawbacks, glad this [edited] got nerfed

You should fight in it to realise it has more than draw backs. 8km reverse speed was too much of a nerf. 



B_Complex #8 Posted 04 January 2020 - 03:48 PM

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View Postccoolliinn_1, on 04 January 2020 - 02:37 PM, said:

You should fight in it to realise it has more than draw backs. 8km reverse speed was too much of a nerf. 

Yea but its not nerfed its just made unplayable in most of the maps you wont even be able to get in position and any hits will take crew members out. So if you are on an open map you practically dead the moment u get spotted and u will get spotted thx to EBRs and theres not enough bushes in this entire game to cover this tank.



strv_varjager #9 Posted 04 January 2020 - 03:55 PM

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I wonder if this tank should even be in the game, yeah it has no armor but it can pretty much one shot everything it comes across. I have never been a big fan of mechanics like this in games. The fv 4005 player only need 1 shot to ruin someones game and send them back to garage while they most likely have to hit him 4-6 times to do the same.

 



B_Complex #10 Posted 04 January 2020 - 04:04 PM

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View Poststrv_varjager, on 04 January 2020 - 02:55 PM, said:

I wonder if this tank should even be in the game, yeah it has no armor but it can pretty much one shot everything it comes across. I have never been a big fan of mechanics like this in games. The fv 4005 player only need 1 shot to ruin someones game and send them back to garage while they most likely have to hit him 4-6 times to do the same.

 

Well how many tanks on T10 has less than 230 mm of armor? So the actual chance to one shot something is minimal. If you think about it arty has higher chance of 1 shooting someone. And theres is no reason why this tank has 0 mobility considering how light armored it is.   



NUKLEAR_SLUG #11 Posted 04 January 2020 - 04:09 PM

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View PostB_Complex, on 04 January 2020 - 04:04 PM, said:

Well how many tanks on T10 has less than 230 mm of armor? So the actual chance to one shot something is minimal. If you think about it arty has higher chance of 1 shooting someone. And theres is no reason why this tank has 0 mobility considering how light armored it is.   


So you only get to do 7-800 from the splash... #feelsbadman



B_Complex #12 Posted 04 January 2020 - 04:11 PM

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View PostNUKLEAR_SLUG, on 04 January 2020 - 03:09 PM, said:


So you only get to do 7-800 from the splash... #feelsbadman

Yea by receiving over 1k dmg in return coz u get spotted instantly unless u camp at the base and be useless to your team.  



NUKLEAR_SLUG #13 Posted 04 January 2020 - 04:21 PM

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View PostB_Complex, on 04 January 2020 - 04:11 PM, said:

Yea by receiving over 1k dmg in return coz u get spotted instantly unless u camp at the base and be useless to your team.  


Be more careful when you fire then. It still comes down to if you want the ability to basically delete tanks you have to be willing to accept the tradeoffs. If not, the Conway is still a pretty decent tank at tier 9.



ChristOfTheAbyss #14 Posted 04 January 2020 - 04:25 PM

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View PostB_Complex, on 04 January 2020 - 03:24 PM, said:

So after spending time getting FV4005 first impression is that this tank is design to die. Whats a point of HESH with this insanely unstable pen of 230 on tier X? And why is FV215b(183) is still in game with wayyyyyyyyyyyy better stat? wouldn't be more reasonable to at least give FV4005 mobility since its paper thin armor? Or higher camo rating so it wont get spotted across the map? Or change HESH from that stupid 1700 dmg? why not make it like British version of grille? High mobility 750 dmg and 1000 dmg with hesh? 

 

How is FV215b 183 better?



B_Complex #15 Posted 04 January 2020 - 04:31 PM

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View PostChristOfTheAbyss, on 04 January 2020 - 03:25 PM, said:

 

How is FV215b 183 better?

high camo, lower profile, armor and better mobility. 



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View Poststrv_varjager, on 04 January 2020 - 03:55 PM, said:

I wonder if this tank should even be in the game, yeah it has no armor but it can pretty much one shot everything it comes across. I have never been a big fan of mechanics like this in games. The fv 4005 player only need 1 shot to ruin someones game and send them back to garage while they most likely have to hit him 4-6 times to do the same.

 

This tank replaced the death star when it was removed. Some people still have that tank and with better specs and armor. Do you want removed from the tech tree or the game. The death star is still in game.



ChristOfTheAbyss #17 Posted 04 January 2020 - 04:39 PM

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View PostB_Complex, on 04 January 2020 - 04:31 PM, said:

high camo, lower profile, armor and better mobility. 

 

High camo FALSE. Lower profile, barely any. Armor, that doesnt work. Better mobility, FALSE.


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B_Complex #18 Posted 04 January 2020 - 04:45 PM

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View PostChristOfTheAbyss, on 04 January 2020 - 03:39 PM, said:

 

High camo FALSE. Lower profile, barely any. Armor, that doesnt work. Better mobility, FALSE.

https://tanks.gg/tank/fv215b-183/stats?cs=fv4005   so how is it FALSE? 



ChristOfTheAbyss #19 Posted 04 January 2020 - 05:04 PM

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View PostB_Complex, on 04 January 2020 - 04:45 PM, said:

 

All I see is proof to my statements. Are you sure you can read those stats?



B_Complex #20 Posted 04 January 2020 - 05:23 PM

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View PostChristOfTheAbyss, on 04 January 2020 - 04:04 PM, said:

 

All I see is proof to my statements. Are you sure you can read those stats?

im not sure you can :) but let me brake it down to you as if you were a 6 year old. so here goes: 

 

Speed: FV215 34.3 reverse 12     FV4005 32 reverse 8 

Turret Armor: FV215 254 / 177 / 31       FV4005 14 / 14 / 14

Hull armor: FV215 152 / 50 / 76             FV4005 76/50/38

 

Camo stationary rating: FV215  6.4         FV4005 1.37

 

So all i see is you unable to read. Try not to miss school anymore :)

 

 

 






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