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the_nebuchadnezzar #41 Posted 04 January 2020 - 11:20 PM

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View PostThorgrimBrenadim, on 04 January 2020 - 09:37 PM, said:

So it's ok to one shot a tank at some tiers but not others ! Logic escapes many people doesn't it.

 

It is either ok at all tiers or at no tiers. It is not beyond stupid it is very logical now if the FV was fast if it had good armour etc then yes that would be beyond stupid as it would have few if any weaknesses. Any player who enjoys seeing other players as you say cry just how and why should anyone show such a player who thinks that is fine any respect at all?

Yes, low tiers are different then tier 10. That's why tier one has +1 MM. At tier 10 you should not be able to one shot same tier tanks. Simple as that. But do carry on and tell us how FV4005 should be buffed... 



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View Postthe_nebuchadnezzar, on 04 January 2020 - 10:20 PM, said:

Yes, low tiers are different then tier 10. That's why tier one has +1 MM. At tier 10 you should not be able to one shot same tier tanks. Simple as that. But do carry on and tell us how FV4005 should be buffed... 

Low tiers are just a stepping stone to higher tiers, of which tier 10 is (or at least should be) the most competetive one. Only losers go sealclubbing and abuse low tier OP tanks. A oneshot shouldnt be able to happen in a competetive environment.



Gremlin182 #43 Posted 05 January 2020 - 12:54 AM

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Discussing tanks isn't petty but some are being petty in the way they are discussing tanks.

We can disagree without attacking others.

I have both of these tanks and they are decent.

 

You either need to not get spotted or have hard cover and you also need to be second or third line adding support not surging ahead.

Both these tanks were buffed getting more ammo and some time later the mobility of the stage 2 was reduced a little

Camo wise neither are fantastic but on paper the Death star is better

 

The Stage II starts with a base camo value of 1.3   and you can push it to   21.74

While the Death Star starts at 9,98 and can be pushed to   38.74.

No one would take either to those levels as it would cripple the tanks effectiveness to little purpose you really want everything to push the gun stats and the view range.

Whatever you do you will be outspotted.

 

You have very decent AP rounds the extremely effective HESH rounds which many use as the default shell and HE which isn't that bad. 

Main problem I find is the accuracy its not dependable at long range but given the damage per shot you have that seems a fair tradeoff.



ThorgrimBrenadim #44 Posted 05 January 2020 - 02:50 AM

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View Postthe_nebuchadnezzar, on 04 January 2020 - 11:20 PM, said:

Yes, low tiers are different then tier 10. That's why tier one has +1 MM. At tier 10 you should not be able to one shot same tier tanks. Simple as that. But do carry on and tell us how FV4005 should be buffed... 


I would increase the reverse speed back close to what it was before the last nerf. I would leave the rest the same for now as no matter what you think I do not want it to be OP. It has one trick that killer gun if it hits and that should be left alone.

 

To other posts the deathstar turret bounces way more than the shitbarn turret ( yes I have bounced a shot or two on my shitbarn turret, but nowhere near as many as on the Deathstar ).

 

It is a tank that makes you think be it you playing it or facing off against it. How can a tank that makes you think about learning to bait shots etc be a bad thing unless there gets to be too many in the game.



grensu #45 Posted 05 January 2020 - 07:27 AM

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.. as it should be ..

insanity4u #46 Posted 05 January 2020 - 09:52 AM

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It is unplayable. Instead they should remake the tank to a better version of the t8 or t9 tank.

24doom24 #47 Posted 05 January 2020 - 01:14 PM

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Good, that's what you get when you put all your skill points into the gun.:teethhappy:

anonym_7hNS5KqA9EHZ #48 Posted 05 January 2020 - 04:18 PM

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Even with all the nerfs i still quite like mine, it has always been like 2-3 games with less than 1-2k dmg, then you get some good rng - easy 6-7k game. Its very inconsistent. But thats what its all about, you have many terrible games to have one 8k+ game.

Ice7_4 #49 Posted 05 January 2020 - 09:31 PM

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fv4005 is superbad. It is just played for occasional lols. From 10 games 8 are bad, 1 ok, 1 good. If it would aim faster it might be something. 

JOSEBA_PRIME #50 Posted 05 January 2020 - 10:24 PM

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Fv4005 is still playable and funny vehicle if you know what are you doing. But those nerfs were disgusting.

 

Only that reverse speed is almost killing the tank... And also mega nerfs on gun handling... I used to play It like a heavy peak n boom. Same play Style as t110e4. But now its just 100 times harder to play like this.

 

If this tank deserved those nerfs then full ruski, Italian and swedish tech tree deserves a Nerf, half american, french, cz... also deserve a Nerf. Almost all premium tanks deserve a Nerf...

 

Before the nerfs the tank was already balanced. It had super Epic gun if wasting 100k credits per Game  if having a good RNG. But pathetic camo, pathetic armour, enormous size, bad mobility, not full turret traverse...

 

I love 430u but is ridiculous that WG decided to Nerf FV while they canceled 430u nerfs because It is a balanced tank. I only think 430u is stronger tank than 907. Nothing too crazy...



Shacou #51 Posted 06 January 2020 - 02:57 AM

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I find the lack of AP on random [edited]barns disturbing. Playerbase really underrates AP on this thing. On full tier10 match i don't see a point to spam premium HESH, since it does same damage as non-premium one on non-penetrating hit.

Edited by Homer_J, 06 January 2020 - 12:54 PM.
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tajj7 #52 Posted 06 January 2020 - 12:40 PM

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It deserves to be bad because the gun is plain stupidity, it deserved those nerfs as they over buffed it and it was appearing in too many games

 

I seriously doubt tanks like the FV4005, Fv215b 183, JpE100, ISU-152 etc. will have their platforms improve until their gun alpha is nerfed/rebalanced. 

 

I still hold out hope that WG will ditch both the 183s and replace them with something else with more balanced alpha, I'd much prefer a tier 10 Charioteer than the Fv4005 even in it's buffed state. 



NUKLEAR_SLUG #53 Posted 06 January 2020 - 02:00 PM

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For a tank that was supposedly nerfed into the ground they're not exactly uncommon to see which suggests even with the nerfs they still aren't that bad. 

B_Complex #54 Posted 06 January 2020 - 04:53 PM

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View PostNUKLEAR_SLUG, on 06 January 2020 - 01:00 PM, said:

For a tank that was supposedly nerfed into the ground they're not exactly uncommon to see which suggests even with the nerfs they still aren't that bad. 

But why not just nerf a tank but keep it playable? Like reducing dmg and increasing mobility would be a good idea like WG did to WT auf E100 just swap it with good mobile TD with reasonable dmg.



_cro_magnon #55 Posted 06 January 2020 - 05:29 PM

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I mean it is called shitbarn for a reason.

Negativvv #56 Posted 06 January 2020 - 05:32 PM

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Correct me if I'm wrong but is this thing worse than the Deathstar now since the nerfs?

 

I got DS during the Black Market event, not sure if I regret it or not as it's somewhat meh to play. Although laugh out loud worthy when HESH pens...






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