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TargetNSA #1 Posted 06 January 2020 - 11:03 PM

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Pretty much what I said in the title. There is no way to punish someone who purposefully pushes you to your death, or just cant play the game properly. And its been happening non stop from tiers 6 up to tier 10 easy. So make this punishable or let us do something about it ourselves.

Gruff_ #2 Posted 06 January 2020 - 11:30 PM

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View PostTargetNSA, on 06 January 2020 - 10:03 PM, said:

Pretty much what I said in the title. There is no way to punish someone who purposefully pushes you to your death, or just cant play the game properly. And its been happening non stop from tiers 6 up to tier 10 easy. So make this punishable or let us do something about it ourselves.


You enable replays and send in a ticket to wg.



Only_Slightly_Bent #3 Posted 06 January 2020 - 11:33 PM

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View PostGruff_, on 06 January 2020 - 10:30 PM, said:


You enable replays and send in a ticket to wg.

This.  And before the hordes of WG haters start screeching that reporting doesn't work, it does. They're too stupid to realise that if you don't bother to report (like they say to do), of course nothing will happen...



Nishi_Kinuyo #4 Posted 06 January 2020 - 11:34 PM

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You know you already can report them for it, right?

Through the support portal.



ihateclowns #5 Posted 06 January 2020 - 11:48 PM

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Would you like me to hold your hand while we drive into battle also?

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iuytr #6 Posted 06 January 2020 - 11:58 PM

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:facepalm:

 

Though WG could make it easier to find where to report it. It's not really obvious that it goes under physics abuse, nor is it easy to find physics abuse on the menu.



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View PostTargetNSA, on 06 January 2020 - 11:03 PM, said:

 There is no way to punish someone who  just cant play the game properly. And its been happening non stop from tiers 6 up to tier 10
So make this punishable or let us do something about it ourselves.

 

What is it about WoT that attracts so many nutters

 

It's a kiddies video game



NekoPuffer_PPP #8 Posted 07 January 2020 - 01:53 AM

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View PostGruff_, on 06 January 2020 - 11:30 PM, said:

You enable replays and send in a ticket to wg.

 

You know, I thought the same, and told others the same at the start...but recently, I've changed my mind.

 

Sending a replay in after what I spouted in chat in response would probably get me permabanned.

 

At times like that, FF should be enabled...people who block and push others on purpose are the worst, and deserve the worst.

 

I wish a system could detect "too much contact" and turn the troll blue.



FataL_ShadowZ #9 Posted 07 January 2020 - 01:56 AM

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Guess what happened next here...



Pansenmann #10 Posted 07 January 2020 - 02:21 AM

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View PostFataL_ShadowZ, on 07 January 2020 - 01:56 AM, said:

Guess what happened next here...

 

 

the enemy super kitty gets killed?



NekoPuffer_PPP #11 Posted 07 January 2020 - 02:42 AM

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View PostFataL_ShadowZ, on 07 January 2020 - 01:56 AM, said:

Guess what happened next here...

 

To be fair...you are a medium tank...he is a TD...so uhh...you're both at fault.

 

Edit: ehhh well that guy woulda been more useful on the frontlines instead of in a bush though


Edited by NekoPuffer_PPP, 07 January 2020 - 02:46 AM.


NUKLEAR_SLUG #12 Posted 07 January 2020 - 03:22 AM

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View PostTargetNSA, on 06 January 2020 - 11:03 PM, said:

Pretty much what I said in the title. There is no way to punish someone who purposefully pushes you to your death, or just cant play the game properly. 

 

So you want to be able to shoot other players that aren't playing the way you want?

 

Sounds like the best thing WG could do for the game is leave FF off and just ban you. 



Robbie_T #13 Posted 07 January 2020 - 04:22 AM

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View PostTargetNSA, on 06 January 2020 - 11:03 PM, said:

Pretty much what I said in the title. There is no way to punish someone who purposefully pushes you to your death, or just cant play the game properly. And its been happening non stop from tiers 6 up to tier 10 easy. So make this punishable or let us do something about it ourselves.

Than you are the problem...

I play only tier 6 to 10 and happend in 2019 maybe 3 times MAX and that was just a person who wanted to be annoying from the start.

But i do give up my spot to a higher tier player....like couple of days ago ...i was in my 45tp (polish heavy tier7)..come at the heavy spot and defended....

Here comes my slow t95 rolling in i move out of the way so he can take the point and do some serieus dmg! i covered his back for meds or Lt's rolling in on his sides.

 

You the kind of player who would keep the spot and let the T95 over angle because you was there first trying to shoot tier 9 heavy;s with a pee shooter...

Or that guy that keeps the spot on a corner and dont roll back when reloading and the other guys have to wait till you dead.or have to over angle to get shots off.

 

Yeah than sometimes that player (thats a little smarter)gets frustrated or for the better of the game pushes you out of the way!

 

And about the screenhot  That At15A should not be there in that matchup .....but  T3485M really should not be there .

T3485M is a all round tank that more  usefull in active brawling  than sniping!

You should have  gone to B1 and B2 holding up there meds from that side with the bret panter and that other med that probberly now dont go to B1 and 2 to be probberly overrun

 

 

 

 


Edited by Robbie_T, 07 January 2020 - 05:17 AM.


Richthoffen #14 Posted 07 January 2020 - 09:18 AM

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View PostNUKLEAR_SLUG, on 07 January 2020 - 03:22 AM, said:

 

So you want to be able to shoot other players that aren't playing the way you want?

 

Sounds like the best thing WG could do for the game is leave FF off and just ban you.

basically yes, with a small nuance, I would like to be able to return the favor when a [ insert bad language and cursing here] pushes me around and I cant push back because he's 3 times heavier.

if they can remove FF, let them remove physical abuse on life team mates as well.

it can be kept in game for the death team mates so you will still be able to push a wreck out off the way or use it as extra armor



malachi6 #15 Posted 07 January 2020 - 10:03 AM

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Given, in the heat of the moment, an accident or mistake could be taken for malicious.  And that the worst people to resolve issues are the aggrieved parties (that is why most nations have police and courts).  Removing the ability for people to mete out justice is, on balance, a good idea.

 

TLDR; The problem for the OP is then defending false positives.



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This happens once in a thousand battles to me. So for me it's not an issue. And when it happens, just report them and move on.

NekoPuffer_PPP #17 Posted 07 January 2020 - 11:25 AM

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View PostRichthoffen, on 07 January 2020 - 09:18 AM, said:

if they can remove FF, let them remove physical abuse on live team mates as well.

it can be kept in game for the dead team mates so you will still be able to push a wreck out off the way or use it as extra armor

 

Yes, exactly this! I've mentioned it before, when FF had just been removed and people complained about pushing.

 

Disabling physical interaction between teammates would solve this once and for all. Like, when you're parked, not moving, nobody can move you, until your tank is a dead wreck which can be moved.



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View Post__Eric__, on 07 January 2020 - 10:00 AM, said:

This happens once in a thousand battles to me. So for me it's not an issue. And when it happens, just report them and move on.

 

Well, I kind do an end around if I'm still alive and push them back out, Or go behind them and block a retreat., Fire my gun and watch the incoming fire at the position :)

 

 



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View PostNekoPuffer_PPP, on 07 January 2020 - 11:25 AM, said:

 

Yes, exactly this! I've mentioned it before, when FF had just been removed and people complained about pushing.

 

Disabling physical interaction between teammates would solve this once and for all. Like, when you're parked, not moving, nobody can move you, until your tank is a dead wreck which can be moved.


So if you're in your bush and I pull up right behind you what's your plan then? You've got two options. Sit there, or drive forwards out your bush and get spotted and die.

 

See, it's not as easy as people like to think for WG to "just fix it".


Edited by NUKLEAR_SLUG, 07 January 2020 - 12:13 PM.


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View PostPansenmann, on 07 January 2020 - 01:21 AM, said:

the enemy super kitty gets killed?

Yep that happened too (unsurprisingly)

View PostNekoPuffer_PPP, on 07 January 2020 - 01:42 AM, said:

To be fair...you are a medium tank...he is a TD...so uhh...you're both at fault.

Edit: ehhh well that guy woulda been more useful on the frontlines instead of in a bush though

View PostRobbie_T, on 07 January 2020 - 03:22 AM, said:

And about the screenhot  That At15A should not be there in that matchup .....but  T3485M really should not be there .

T3485M is a all round tank that more  usefull in active brawling  than sniping!

You should have  gone to B1 and B2 holding up there meds from that side with the bret panter and that other med that probberly now dont go to B1 and 2 to be probberly overrun

What you can't see from the screenshot is that there was also the enemy AMD 178B yoloing with the super-hellcat (such behaviour as appears to be the norm these days and very much so in these mid tiers). I was actually on my way to A5 but at the last second decided to quickly stop at that bush just to see if I could spot anything pushing the 5/6 line and then I saw that happening. I got a shot off on the Super Hellcat and immediately afterwards AT 15A pushed me out of the bush into clear view, I then tried to get out of that situation by driving hard left but hit a rock with my right tracks and the game physics had me careering to the bottom of the cliff. The enemy 45TP then took over 1/3rd of my hit points from me and my head pretty much wasn't in the game thereafter as I was so angry but surprisingly for me I didn't say a thing at all nor shoot him as I knew it was pointless. Had he asked for me to move I would have done so but that Eastern European [choose your own favourite expletive] didn't care for anyone but himself. I waited out the game so the replay would complete (iirc replays don't work if you leave early) and then composed a clearly written ticket to support who have since responded this morning that appropriate action will be taken, however as we don't get told exactly what, there is a slight doubt that anything will be done about it at all and makes we wonder if its even worth submitting tickets. I'd be happier if you could view the web page player profile and it display a single line which says Active (or similar) for unbanned players or Banned with a date entry when the ban is up, it doesn't have to give details for the ban but at least give us players some visual indicator that submitting tickets is worth it and these idiots are being dealt with.

 

 


Edited by FataL_ShadowZ, 07 January 2020 - 12:45 PM.






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