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sgtYester #1 Posted 07 January 2020 - 12:20 PM

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Hi all,

since most people shoot full gold no matter if they are top tier or bottom tier,  should WG not simply remove standard ammo?

 

it is now everywhere, play tier 10, gold gold gold.

play tier 2/3/4/5/6 for M10 mission.. gold gold gold.  

 

nobody bothers with standard ammo any more these days except new players..( see a problem there WG?)

 

this makes playing heavies simply obsolete and is fine by me. since they already get rekked by arty anyways.

 

will be playing op russian meds/lights and arty. from now on.



TomatoShooter #2 Posted 07 January 2020 - 01:25 PM

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Nobody..so yourself included?

 

But I only have 5-10 "gold" shells in all of my tanks, learn not to get shot or not to care how others waste credits.



Gixxer66 #3 Posted 07 January 2020 - 01:44 PM

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Not my experience of the game that everyone always shoots 100% special ammo.

 

Certain tanks I will carry more than others and use it more often, the VK30.02D for example - meeting Tier 9's with 145mm of pen really doesn't appeal to me, same vs T8. So the 2 key is used more often.

 

 



malachi6 #4 Posted 07 January 2020 - 02:17 PM

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My personal experience differs from yours.  Premium ammo is not always used against me.  We now have two accounts of the game the differ from each other.  Where do we go from here?

 

Given the two other responses to you asset the same as me.  I think it is safe to assume your premise is flawed and that either you have confirmation bias or are indulging in hyperbole.  Neither is a reasonable pathway to the truth.


Edited by malachi6, 07 January 2020 - 02:18 PM.


Steeleye_Spam #5 Posted 07 January 2020 - 02:30 PM

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Yet more ridiculous exaggeration to make a point, making the point worthless. I do get shot by players who obviously exclusively use gold rounds, but its a small minority still. In the vast majority of cases when I do get shot by gold, its because they need to, which is the whole point. As above, I usually carry 10 apcr/heat rounds in each tank and use it when its needed.

TomatoShooter #6 Posted 07 January 2020 - 03:59 PM

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Shall I watch this replay: http://wotreplays.eu/site/4575619#details or can you explain the 42810 credits in ammuntion costs with only 17 shots fired? According to my calculation that would be 9 standard AP shells and 8 APCR shells with the 105mm gun.

sgtYester #7 Posted 07 January 2020 - 11:28 PM

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View PostTomatoShooter, on 07 January 2020 - 01:25 PM, said:

Nobody..so yourself included?

 

But I only have 5-10 "gold" shells in all of my tanks, learn not to get shot or not to care how others waste credits.

correct, since most games are bottom tier anyways thanks to the garbage mm, I almost fully equip p2w and HE ammo.

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View PostSteeleye_Spam, on 07 January 2020 - 02:30 PM, said:

Yet more ridiculous exaggeration to make a point, making the point worthless. I do get shot by players who obviously exclusively use gold rounds, but its a small minority still. In the vast majority of cases when I do get shot by gold, its because they need to, which is the whole point. As above, I usually carry 10 apcr/heat rounds in each tank and use it when its needed.

Then you clearly have not played wot lately.

 

also wn8 whoring at low tiers does not help either.

 

then again, it is a mini game i play at low tiers.  hunting wn8 sealclubbers:)



RaxipIx #8 Posted 07 January 2020 - 11:32 PM

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View PostsgtYester, on 07 January 2020 - 11:28 PM, said:

correct, since most games are bottom tier anyways thanks to the garbage mm, I almost fully equip p2w and HE ammo.

At most i have 50/50 loud out, and that's on tanks that have really poor pen. On the rest i have like 70-30 regular/prem ammo. And i only switch when i actually need it.



NUKLEAR_SLUG #9 Posted 08 January 2020 - 03:29 AM

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View PostsgtYester, on 07 January 2020 - 12:20 PM, said:

Hi all,

since most people shoot full gold no matter if they are top tier or bottom tier,  should WG not simply remove standard ammo?

 

They should, but not for the reasons you're whining about thinking.

 

Removing standard would allow WG to globally rebalance armour effectiveness versus gold as they would only have one penetration value to consider, not two which is virtually impossible to balance.

 

At the same time it solves the requirement that any solution not be a nerf to premium tanks as they would only get armour buffed to compensate the gold pen values and they could be allowed to keep their standard rounds, even if they are now hardly worth using, as shells to use against zero armour targets.

 

Finally, the increased costs in battle from firing gold all the time would help the economy which is bloated with credits right now and would serve to bleed that off whilst also encouraging players to invest in premium time/tanks to maintain their own credit income. WG thank you for your interest in increasing their year on year profits. 



Stevies_Team #10 Posted 08 January 2020 - 03:38 AM

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Hasn't been fixed for me

 

A lot of my shells have flight issues, they seem to be manufactured with bits of banana


Edited by Stevies_Team, 08 January 2020 - 03:39 AM.


OohSpicy #11 Posted 08 January 2020 - 06:19 AM

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I have roughly 45/45/10% loadout in every tank I got.. If I cant find "green" place to shoot, I try once with normal ammo and then "dab2key". Not penning and hitting your head against the wall is the most stupid thing to do.

 

And if ppl drive tanks that cant be penned with normal or are pennable with less than 50% chance, it is no wonder there is premium ammo coming to them.


Edited by OohSpicy, 08 January 2020 - 06:21 AM.


TomatoShooter #12 Posted 08 January 2020 - 09:48 AM

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View PostsgtYester, on 07 January 2020 - 11:28 PM, said:

correct, since most games are bottom tier anyways thanks to the garbage mm, I almost fully equip p2w and HE ammo.

It was a 2-6-7 template match where you were middle tier so only +/-1 MM. You are actual part of the "problem" you whine about....Jankbal.


Edited by TomatoShooter, 08 January 2020 - 09:52 AM.


PowJay #13 Posted 08 January 2020 - 10:17 AM

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I have over 30,000,000 credits and, since I've largely decided that I'm not buying new tanks, I could probably spam Premium ammo for most, or all of this year depending on tier/results. But I won't. 

 

I have, usually, no more than 10 rounds of Premium ammo in my vehicles. Some, with small guns and high ammo capacities, have as many as 20, I think, but most are closer to 5.

 

I use it when I really need to- higher tiers and heavily armoured targets- and when it's me or him, win or lose when I'm giving no quarter. Occasionally, I may shoot a light tank, bottom tier because I have an APCR round loaded. 

 

I intend to try and three-mark a few tanks this year, so I might carry more Premium ammo for that attempt, but I'll drop the quantity afterwards depending upon how it goes.



MeetriX #14 Posted 08 January 2020 - 10:19 AM

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Put premium ammo back to pay wall and buff some tanks useless pen.




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