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LZ_Mordan #1 Posted 07 January 2020 - 06:07 PM

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EBR are completely toxic like Arty was before the changes.

 

EBRs are not fun. This is not a tanking game anymore.

 

Every single T9-T10 games where there are EBRs. those are my thoughts.

 

Most of the T10 games last 3-4 minutes.


Edited by LZ_Mordan, 07 January 2020 - 06:14 PM.


LethalWalou #2 Posted 07 January 2020 - 06:12 PM

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I just wonder why did you feel that your thread is so important that it needed creation when there are several same kind of whine threads on the first page?

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Please cry here : http://forum.worldoftanks.eu/index.php?/topic/732037-the-big-wv-wheeled-vehicles-discussion-thread/

NUKLEAR_SLUG #4 Posted 07 January 2020 - 06:17 PM

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Not sure what you mean OP,  I have lots of fun gameplay in mine. :) 

LZ_Mordan #5 Posted 07 January 2020 - 08:42 PM

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View PostNUKLEAR_SLUG, on 07 January 2020 - 05:17 PM, said:

Not sure what you mean OP,  I have lots of fun gameplay in mine. :) 

 

you may have fun but its not fun at all for other players.

 

i just played this T10 game. the game only starts when EBR die.. We are just sitting aiming, missing, aiming, firing until the circling EBRs die.

 

its so bloody boring.

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View PostLethalWalou, on 07 January 2020 - 05:12 PM, said:

I just wonder why did you feel that your thread is so important that it needed creation when there are several same kind of whine threads on the first page?

 

its quite telling when so many people complain about it.

 

and its not about "learn to aim"... people know how to aim pre-aim..

 

its about the gameplay.. The game is frozen until EBR die.. You just sit waiting to EBR to die. because the cost of letting an EBR kill all the arty is too high. You usually lose.

 

the real tanking game only starts when EBR die or stop circling.


Edited by LZ_Mordan, 07 January 2020 - 08:45 PM.


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View PostLZ_Mordan, on 07 January 2020 - 07:42 PM, said:

 

you may have fun but its not fun at all for other players.

 

i just played this T10 game. the game only starts when EBR die.. We are just sitting aiming, missing, aiming, firing until the circling EBRs die.

 

its so bloody boring.

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its quite telling when so many people complain about it.

 

and its not about "learn to aim"... people know how to aim pre-aim..

 

its about the gameplay.. The game is frozen until EBR die.. You just sit waiting to EBR to die. because the cost of letting an EBR kill all the arty is too high. You usually lose.

 

the real tanking game only starts when EBR die or stop circling.

 

It's not fun either to be in an LT that is just slightly faster than the less armoured Medium and get shotgunned for more than half of your hitpoints from a bushcamping TD, but people have no problems accepting those because "that takes sKiLl".

 

EBRs did not freeze the game: they revealed the problem with the community - expecting the same stale gamplay/gamestyle over and over and resisting change rather than adapting.

More to it, most of those who complain about it don't even have one. Well, it's no fun being stomped. At least now all classes can be justifiably hated alike.



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View PostLZ_Mordan, on 07 January 2020 - 05:07 PM, said:

EBR are completely toxic like Arty was before the changes.

 

EBRs are not fun. This is not a tanking game anymore.


 

 

This has never been a tanking game. They only resemble tanks and that's about it. It is a computer game it took me a while to realise this also. But now I accept it has nothing to do with the way real tanks and tank warfare behave.

Edited by Lee3452, 07 January 2020 - 10:54 PM.


BlackBloodBandit #8 Posted 08 January 2020 - 10:34 AM

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View PostLZ_Mordan, on 07 January 2020 - 06:07 PM, said:

EBR are completely toxic like Arty was before the changes.

EBRs are not fun. This is not a tanking game anymore.

Every single T9-T10 games where there are EBRs. those are my thoughts.

Most of the T10 games last 3-4 minutes.

I see you have E25 in your garage. Not really creating a fun environment. Speaking of "toxic".

You don't need to make a topic for every subject you don't like or can't deal with. We already get at least a few about this topic each week.


Edited by BlackBloodBandit, 08 January 2020 - 10:36 AM.


tajj7 #9 Posted 08 January 2020 - 11:40 AM

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Don't play then.

 

Every game at tier 10 is not 3-4 minutes and the ones that are have very little to do with EBRs, it's to do with bad players folding faster than a poker player does with a bad hand and/OR because the game has put 430Us vs Leopards and Bobjects vs Strv 103bs and 50b vs IS7s. 

 

What's funny about this whole thing is you have half the WV complainers saying WVs cause everyone to camp and the other half saying they cause fast games, which pretty much shows that both claims are nonsense and are clear confirmation bias. 



Cobra6 #10 Posted 08 January 2020 - 12:00 PM

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Oh look, another day, another WV whine thread.....

 

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CmdRatScabies #11 Posted 08 January 2020 - 12:22 PM

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View PostCobra6, on 08 January 2020 - 12:00 PM, said:

Oh look, another day, another WV whine thread.....

 

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More wheelie threads than arty threads.  Are they hated more?



barison1 #12 Posted 08 January 2020 - 12:28 PM

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View PostCmdRatScabies, on 08 January 2020 - 12:22 PM, said:

More wheelie threads than arty threads.  Are they hated more?

or wheelie haters unable to post in the proper topic while arty haters mostly post in the pinned one :bajan::hiding:



MesoX #13 Posted 08 January 2020 - 12:29 PM

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View PostCobra6, on 08 January 2020 - 12:00 PM, said:

Oh look, another day, another WV whine thread.....

 

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Because its needed to remind WG of what terrible dissapointment they made with these tanks for other players.



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View Postbarison1, on 08 January 2020 - 12:28 PM, said:

or wheelie haters unable to post in the proper topic while arty haters mostly post in the pinned one :bajan::hiding:

Or arty was nerfed hard several times + anonymiser introduced so it calmed down a bit?


Edited by CmdRatScabies, 08 January 2020 - 12:30 PM.


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View PostCmdRatScabies, on 08 January 2020 - 12:29 PM, said:

Or arty was nerfed hard several times and it calmed down a bit?

who knows, but good speculations

 

or slowly we are all suffering from stockholm syndrome thus slowly sympathizing with arty players :trollface:



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View PostCmdRatScabies, on 08 January 2020 - 11:29 AM, said:

Or arty was nerfed hard several times + anonymiser introduced so it calmed down a bit?

 

I don't feel anonymiser particularly works, not enough people using it and I feel arty players go for anonymised targets as I have been shot a lot recently in positions or in tanks that are not a tactical priority, like yesterday arty was going for me several times in my Charioteer, in a tier 10 game, when I was nowhere near the front or most spotted tank. 



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View Posttajj7, on 08 January 2020 - 01:00 PM, said:

 

I don't feel anonymiser particularly works, not enough people using it and I feel arty players go for anonymised targets as I have been shot a lot recently in positions or in tanks that are not a tactical priority, like yesterday arty was going for me several times in my Charioteer, in a tier 10 game, when I was nowhere near the front or most spotted tank. 

Some players will swear that it makes a huge difference to them but hard to say if it's just a psychological impact without them collecting stats.  From what I can see the vast majority of anonymous users seem to be average to not so good players - which I suspect is who WG were aiming the feature at rather than unicums.



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View PostCmdRatScabies, on 08 January 2020 - 11:22 AM, said:

More wheelie threads than arty threads.  Are they hated more?


Does that mean that they annoy/are hated by the majority of players as they ruin gameplay so I can demand that WG remove them?



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View Postbarison1, on 08 January 2020 - 12:32 PM, said:

or slowly we are all suffering from stockholm syndrome thus slowly sympathizing with arty players :trollface:

Joint campaign to bring back T92 AP rounds for that one shot fun?  :hiding:

 



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First time in a while looking at the forum and not much changes. :)

 

Yes wheelies are toxic and mostly hated by the player base but they are here to stay. Adapt or leave are the only options.






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