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DinkyDi #1 Posted 08 January 2020 - 10:21 AM

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Hello Everybody,

during Christmas, while playing the game, I was thinking about what next. What is comming for this game. Long story short, I think, that this game needs split of tech tree between WW2 tank (and older) and post WW2 tanks.

I will not waste 10 hours of doing how I would split the trees into two separate things, just to gate all the hate :D But I think, that we have more post ww2 tanks than WW2 tanks(or pre ww2). This will also come with separate MM.

You will select Tiger 1 or Ferdinand, then you will play against tanks from that period and not getting clubbed by some high tech machines from late 50s (and this will also prepare introduction of Leopard 2, Abrahams etc, I think, this is commin anyway).

What do you think ?



shikaka9 #2 Posted 08 January 2020 - 10:24 AM

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its 2020 and you still didnt learn anything about WG :) 

kaneloon #3 Posted 08 January 2020 - 10:34 AM

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It is tiers dependant. You have the 1917 Renault FT encountering WW2 tiers 2 and 3 tanks ...

Dava_117 #4 Posted 08 January 2020 - 10:46 AM

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This smell more about a L2P issue than an actual game problem. 

IMO, if you "get clubbed" by those tanks you probably are using your Tiger or Ferdi badly. 

Why don't you enable replays and post some of those stomping, so we can give you advices on how to avoid getting clubbed?



Nishi_Kinuyo #5 Posted 08 January 2020 - 11:09 AM

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Ha, so you want the Maus and the Type 5 Heavy to be the top tanks of the WW2 era where barely anyone can do a thing against it?

Robbie_T #6 Posted 09 January 2020 - 05:04 AM

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View PostDava_117, on 08 January 2020 - 10:46 AM, said:

This smell more about a L2P issue than an actual game problem. 

IMO, if you "get clubbed" by those tanks you probably are using your Tiger or Ferdi badly. 

Why don't you enable replays and post some of those stomping, so we can give you advices on how to avoid getting clubbed?

9 out of 10 tiger 1 i see nowadays are hiding in the back being semi afk or hiding the whole game .

While it aint the best tank it can do stuff....and even if a enemy pens you you got teammates that can avenge that shot...

instead of going afk doing 0 dmg 0 HP used 0 spotting ect..



Suurpolskija #7 Posted 09 January 2020 - 08:34 AM

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But... This would mean Tiger ll would actually be the ultimate king of the hill! 

Homer_J #8 Posted 09 January 2020 - 10:07 AM

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View PostDinkyDi, on 08 January 2020 - 09:21 AM, said:


You will select Tiger 1 or Ferdinand, then you will play against tanks from that period and not getting clubbed by some high tech machines from late 50s (and this will also prepare introduction of Leopard 2, Abrahams etc, I think, this is commin anyway).

What do you think ?

 

I think this discussion is as old as WoT.

 

Basically it boils down to people start playing the game, see Tiger I, think "oooh best tank of WWII I will pwn with that" get Tiger I, realise it doesn't have any superpowers because the game is actually somewhat balanced and it's merely just another tier VII.  So then they think the game should be redesigned around their love for that tank.

 

That would be very bad for the game but don't worry because it isn't happening.



Dava_117 #9 Posted 09 January 2020 - 03:36 PM

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View PostRobbie_T, on 09 January 2020 - 05:04 AM, said:

9 out of 10 tiger 1 i see nowadays are hiding in the back being semi afk or hiding the whole game .

While it aint the best tank it can do stuff....and even if a enemy pens you you got teammates that can avenge that shot...

instead of going afk doing 0 dmg 0 HP used 0 spotting ect..

 

Can't talk about Ferdi, but Tiger1 is a really strong tank! I like ot a lot with its accuarate, high pen, high DPM gun and the huge VR. I have almost 445m and still miss some skills and perks. It's just not a tank that can brawl and, except when top tier, should be played as first to second line supporter. Works wonders with me.

But, as Homer_J said, many expect it to be an OP killing machine, wich it isn't.



FataL_ShadowZ #10 Posted 09 January 2020 - 03:49 PM

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View PostHomer_J, on 09 January 2020 - 09:07 AM, said:

Basically it boils down to people start playing the game, see Tiger I, think "oooh best tank of WWII I will pwn with that" get Tiger I, realise it doesn't have any superpowers because the game is actually somewhat balanced and it's merely just another tier VII.  So then they think the game should be redesigned around their love for that tank.

It's funny you mention that, I first started playing almost 2 years ago and I don't have historical tank knowledge that many of you have so for me that tank was never even a consideration. What influenced my choice making was I always played a sniper role in FPS games (Arma 3/Operation Flashpoint/CoD/MoH etc...) and naturally the Tank Destroyer role seemed a fairly similar alternative. I remember looking at the Tier X TD's in the tech tree and seeing the gigantic barrel of the Grille 15 and thinking that was the tank of me. It remains to date my only Tier X and quite the disappointment, certainly wish I knew then what I know now.



StronkiTonki #11 Posted 09 January 2020 - 07:51 PM

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Splitting up the MM in any kind of form is just a bad idea.

And the reasoning behind it only smells like "muh realisms!@!!!"

 

So no.






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