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cypryanutzu #1 Posted 09 January 2020 - 10:04 AM

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Hello, i have reached IS7 but i can see the armor sometimes is like aluminum when i get shooted, gun bouncing a lot and i wonder if S.CONQUEROR is better, i have CONQUEROR and is not perfect but the gun make every time damage.I feel was better to get OBJ277 instead of  IS7. Please give me an advice

Edited by cypryanutzu, 09 January 2020 - 10:07 AM.


Ceeb #2 Posted 09 January 2020 - 10:20 AM

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Chalk and Cheese.

 

The SC is considered OP by many, not mine, mine is crap.  IS7 is Russian and will bounce most things if used properly.

 

Now I love the 277, but dont play tier 10 often as its been ruined IMO, but the 277 and the 5A are good machines.



BQBD #3 Posted 09 January 2020 - 10:21 AM

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Those 2 tanks have completely different play styles, and as such how can one tell you one is better than the other?

 

Is7 is much better armored and generally more forgiving for newer players, quite mobile as well.

 

 

What I am trying to say is only you know what tank is better suited for you and your play style.



cypryanutzu #4 Posted 09 January 2020 - 10:31 AM

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View PostBQBD, on 09 January 2020 - 10:21 AM, said:

Those 2 tanks have completely different play styles, and as such how can one tell you one is better than the other?

 

Is7 is much better armored and generally more forgiving for newer players, quite mobile as well.

 

 

What I am trying to say is only you know what tank is better suited for you and your play style.

I was 50m fate to face with another is7 mine juste bounce an his face but he killed me fast, i was shooting in same spot, in that moth down in face, i know many use gold amo but wtf i shoot u in same spot u shoot me and mine every time bouce... i had Tortoise from UK, now i have Conq and their guns seems better than gun of is 7 ...maibe i m wrong. Probably my problem is because i cant stay hide too much and i just go atack fast :)))



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Obj. 430U of course. ;)

Joke aside, both are known as good tanks, I think just choose which fits you more. I think it is not a bad idea to try the tier 10 you are grinding for at test server, I believe we will have soon again (16th or 17th January) a test period. On test server everyone uses gold, so you won't get a realistic picture about the tank but at least you will know more about it before you invest your time and money. 

 


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cypryanutzu #6 Posted 09 January 2020 - 10:35 AM

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View PostGardar7, on 09 January 2020 - 10:31 AM, said:

Obj. 430U of course. ;)

Joke aside, both are known as good tanks, I think just choose which fits you more. I think it is not a bad idea to try the tier 10 you are grinding for at test server, I believe we will have soon again (confirmed, 16th January) a test period. On test server everyone uses gold, so you won't get a realistic picture about the tank but at least you will know more about it before you invest your time and money. 

 

Will be nice to see at least how is in game 



strv_varjager #7 Posted 09 January 2020 - 11:21 AM

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I dont think it matters what tank you play since you dont even do ok in any of your high tier tanks. You should not play tier 8 9 and 10 because you ruin the game for your 14 teammates.

 

I think you should forget about obj and conquerors and go back to tier 5 and start thinking about kv and churchills.



SOROS_SCHWARTZ_GYORGY #8 Posted 09 January 2020 - 06:41 PM

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To answer your question:

Conqueror excels on hilly areas and at medium ranges. It does better on maps like el halluf or live oaks than is-7 if you know how to take advantage of terrain. Conqueror also has a better gun indeed.
Is-7 is more armored than conqueror, its armor works well against low tiers and against players who dont know where they should aim as they dont understand armor profiles... Just like you dont understand them.

And this is where we get to the point. The problem is not the tank you drive, it is that you are not a skilled player which based on your stats is obvious. If you are getting stomped by someone who is driving the same tank meams you got outplayed.

You should study armor profiles tanks.gg and watch some streamers to get better. Believe me, it works, and you will have more fun playing this game.

And if you think you are good, please look up the dunning-kruger effect and think whether you might be a victim of it. This was a preventive remark on my part.

Now back to tanks. Overall superconqueror has a higher potential than is-7, but also less forgiving. And no, choosing obj 277 wouldn't have mattered.


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Sconq by miles. The IS-7 is getting really stale. The gun penetration is awful. It doesn't even get decent premium ammo. Yet somehow WG decided that the 257 should get 315mm HEAT. 

GodTank2 #10 Posted 09 January 2020 - 09:11 PM

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SConq is probs the best tech tree tier 10 heavy atm. Armor is good , gun is amazing and the gun depression is amazing

IS-7 is kinda trash atm. The gun is really unreliable.



Negativvv #11 Posted 09 January 2020 - 09:36 PM

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I suck hard in the S Conq...

 

For me it's slow and has meh alpha for a HT. Almost all your competitors out trade you.

 

I am probably better off grinding the IS 7 noob wagon.

 

Higher tier Arty makes me want to forget HTs even exist however. 



nickdragon13 #12 Posted 09 January 2020 - 09:53 PM

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IS7 good armour, mediocre gun handling, good speed for being heavy.Forgives enough mistakes.

277 Has spaced armour on side so can help against Heat spam. Good mobility and gun handling. Must play more carefully than the IS7.

S. Conq Excellent dmp, good handling, mediocre speed, excellent gun depression. Kinda different style of gameplay as you have to rely on the gun's depression to make your armour work most of the time.

 

Sum up: IS7 more friendly for new players, 277 good for good players, S.Conq good only if you know how to use it.



cypryanutzu #13 Posted 09 January 2020 - 10:21 PM

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Thx a lot, i have all answers now, it wasnt about how bad player i,m and i should play years on small tier, i think even this tanks are like a car, fits to you or not, i wanted some answers because i dont have credits to buy another tank wich dont worth/fit to me, if it was a better life to pay some gold was ok for credits... I had T10, obj 257 and i sold them fast because conqueror is better in my opinion. Have all a nice evening and nice years on WOT :) thx

the_nebuchadnezzar #14 Posted 09 January 2020 - 10:59 PM

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Gardar7 #15 Posted 10 January 2020 - 08:32 AM

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View Postthe_nebuchadnezzar, on 09 January 2020 - 07:59 PM, said:

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View PostGodTank2, on 09 January 2020 - 08:11 PM, said:

SConq is probs the best tech tree tier 10 heavy atm. Armor is good , gun is amazing and the gun depression is amazing

IS-7 is kinda trash atm. The gun is really unreliable.

 

5A is massively better than Super Conq IMO. 

 

And IS-7 gun handling is fine for 490 alpha, pen is bit meh but it has 0.06 dispersion, you can overmatch Swedish TDs which the SC can't, outtrade people.

 

SC is a comfy tank but slow and only really works in limited scenarios IMO, IS-7 is far more versatile, it's way more mobile and more of a bully. 



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I havent played the Super Conq much, I think I have many more battles on the IS-7.

Dont really like either as I consider myself a medium tanks player.

When facing them hull down, they are both very difficult to deal with. In open fields I would prefer going vs the Conq.

So I guess for me IS-7 is marginally better all around.



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View Poststrv_varjager, on 09 January 2020 - 11:21 AM, said:

I dont think it matters what tank you play since you dont even do ok in any of your high tier tanks. You should not play tier 8 9 and 10 because you ruin the game for your 14 teammates.

 

I think you should forget about obj and conquerors and go back to tier 5 and start thinking about kv and churchills.

There is being right and then there is being a d!çķ about it.

While I 100% agree with you. You could have said this in a more nicer constructive way.

 

Being so blunt and direct about it NEVER made anyone say: huh...maybe he is right. Maybe I should train in lower tiers for awhile.

 

I had to say the same to another person 3 weeks ago. But because I was a lot more ... nicer.

Just a thought. 


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View Postcypryanutzu, on 09 January 2020 - 10:21 PM, said:

Thx a lot, i have all answers now, it wasnt about how bad player i,m and i should play years on small tier, i think even this tanks are like a car, fits to you or not, i wanted some answers because i dont have credits to buy another tank wich dont worth/fit to me, if it was a better life to pay some gold was ok for credits... I had T10, obj 257 and i sold them fast because conqueror is better in my opinion. Have all a nice evening and nice years on WOT :) thx

Conq feels better tier for tier personally. It's faster and can bully T8 and T9 hard whereas S Conq has to play with the big boys. 

 

I'll still keep my S Conq as I'll L2P at some point in the future...



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View Postcypryanutzu, on 09 January 2020 - 09:21 PM, said:

Thx a lot, i have all answers now, it wasnt about how bad player i,m and i should play years on small tier, i think even this tanks are like a car, fits to you or not, i wanted some answers because i dont have credits to buy another tank wich dont worth/fit to me, if it was a better life to pay some gold was ok for credits... I had T10, obj 257 and i sold them fast because conqueror is better in my opinion. Have all a nice evening and nice years on WOT :) thx

enjoy conquering the battlefield:izmena:


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