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Hamsterkicker #101 Posted 20 January 2020 - 03:52 PM

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I would say that the balance between premium tanks and tech tree tanks is just completely off. Not only in ability but also in numbers.

 

This started in tier 6 after the T-34-85M was buffed, in tier 8 with the introduction of the Defender, Patriot, Skorpion G, Progetto & LT432. More and more the meta consists of these tanks, so now when playing an ordinary tech tree and especially stock you immediately feel at a disadvantage and more often than not your hard work to compete against those tanks is in vain.

 

 

 

 

 



sniper_pixie #102 Posted 20 January 2020 - 04:01 PM

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I'm grinding the AMX 65t at the moment. It's a garbage tank. I've managed to be top tier twice in the last 10 games, and both times my equivalent opponent was a Defender.

 

My interest in the game is in grinding through the tech trees, but what's the point if at every tier you come up against people that have just outright bought a tank better than any you can grind?



MPV_11 #103 Posted 20 January 2020 - 05:09 PM

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Let me think.....

 

1. 3 x Arty per match + WV

2. 2 x Arty per match + WV

3. 1 x Arty per match + WV



shikaka9 #104 Posted 20 January 2020 - 07:25 PM

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View PostMPV_11, on 20 January 2020 - 04:09 PM, said:

Let me think.....

 

1. 3 x Arty per match + WV

2. 2 x Arty per match + WV

3. 1 x Arty per match + WV

did this stop you? :)


Edited by shikaka9, 20 January 2020 - 07:25 PM.


barison1 #105 Posted 20 January 2020 - 08:05 PM

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View Postshikaka9, on 20 January 2020 - 07:25 PM, said:

did this stop you? :)


looking his recent 30days of a near 700 games i think he did :hiding:



MPV_11 #106 Posted 20 January 2020 - 08:22 PM

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View Postshikaka9, on 20 January 2020 - 06:25 PM, said:

did this stop you? :)

 

View Postbarison1, on 20 January 2020 - 07:05 PM, said:

looking his recent 30days of a near 700 games i think he did :hiding:

 

Yes I play one game a day less in protest :)


Edited by MPV_11, 20 January 2020 - 08:22 PM.


barison1 #107 Posted 20 January 2020 - 08:24 PM

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View PostMPV_11, on 20 January 2020 - 08:22 PM, said:

 

 

Yes I play one game a day less in protest :)

sounds like me trying to play less games and ending up playing all weekend long after not playing much on workdays :hiding:



mani_GGr #108 Posted 20 January 2020 - 09:35 PM

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Most of T10 games have 3 clickers and 3+ lights, Unplayable. But of course WG don't see a problem because they watch overall stats not per tier :)

ChernoGamma #109 Posted 20 January 2020 - 10:07 PM

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Because of the cheater arty clickers. all of these scums should be [edited]

 

Also annoying things is the brutally nerfed global accuracy, and a hopelessly idiotish maps.


Edited by unhappy_bunny, 22 January 2020 - 12:23 AM.
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The_Nickotine #110 Posted 20 January 2020 - 10:52 PM

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I've not long started playing and I can't think I'll be around much longer.

Why? It feels rigged to me.

Case in point. My M44 (yeah I know!) had a 68% win rate and I felt that anyone on the opposing team in my aiming circle were toast.

Now 4 in 5 games are -2 matchmaking. The win rate is falling like a stone and despite my ever improving crew I can't seem to hit or damage much of anything these days.

Arty aside, when you are fully settled in on an oppositions 'weak spot' from less than 100 metres, they are tracked and you fire only to get nothing, no ricochet no "we didn't penetrate" you have to start wondering.

I could go on but you hopefully get my drift, not all is as it seems. Random and balanced are not words you can use when it comes to WOT...

 



Alzamon #111 Posted 21 January 2020 - 01:59 AM

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View Postmani_GGr, on 20 January 2020 - 08:35 PM, said:

Most of T10 games have 3 clickers and 3+ lights, Unplayable. But of course WG don't see a problem because they watch overall stats not per tier :)

I mean only 5 % of the total rounds fired is gold right?

 



ZlatanArKung #112 Posted 21 January 2020 - 08:24 AM

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Time to bust in some open doors.

I think players quit because they find the gameplay boring or non-rewarding. Shooting.

Why do players think the gameplay is boring or non-rewarding.


As for non-rewarding.
It is probably tied down to things like, trying to improve and gets higher dpm/assistance/etc yet WR barely changes at all. Or about grinding a new tank just to find out the T8 premium counterpart is superior.
In general, a sense of trying to accomplish something, fulfilling it to some degree, and not getting rewarded for the effort in a satisfying way.


Boring gameplay.
Could be down to the player not feeling he have any impact on the outcome, he feels powerless. Could be down to how games play out (like, to fast, melting flanks, to good base camping positions, characteristics of some tanks (to fast and nimble, to good turret armour/armour, to high burst/alpha damage etc)).
Or how maps play out, being to predictable, certain positions bring to strong and easily abused etc.

dljawed #113 Posted 21 January 2020 - 11:50 AM

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 every weekend I often avoid playing WOT, because of the worst matchmaking system.

Taika_Apina #114 Posted 21 January 2020 - 11:51 AM

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I stopped playing this game once WG started to balance tanks around premium ammo. This happened around the time they buffed Type-5 armor by removing the front hull corner weakspots and if I recall correctly also buffing armor on some other tanks too. I think this was around 2015 or maybe 2016. I enjoyed playing this game when it was more about tactical gameplay and not just corridor fighting prem ammo spam. It became just a generic arcade shooter and that didn't really interest me.

 

I did play it like couple years ago for a day just to see how bad the prem ammo spam was and I don't recall getting hit by standard ammo in my heavy tanks. Now my stats might have been a cause for this but it was ridiculous. Even tier 10 TDs were firing gold at my Mouse and E-100. Also I logged in to collect the reward tanks in 2018 and 2019 and even though they gave me some premium days for free for like a month or something I'm not interested to play atm.



ilmavarvas #115 Posted 21 January 2020 - 12:07 PM

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View PostHamsterkicker, on 20 January 2020 - 03:52 PM, said:

I would say that the balance between premium tanks and tech tree tanks is just completely off. Not only in ability but also in numbers.

 

This started in tier 6 after the T-34-85M was buffed, in tier 8 with the introduction of the Defender, Patriot, Skorpion G, Progetto & LT432. More and more the meta consists of these tanks, so now when playing an ordinary tech tree and especially stock you immediately feel at a disadvantage and more often than not your hard work to compete against those tanks is in vain.

 

TBH, stock tank should be weaker than same tier premium tank, as it used to be so. Then again, fully upgraded tech tree tank should be better than it's premium counterpart and that's what changed - now many new premiums are just purely better than fully upgraded tech tree or at least same level, Progetto - Defender - IS-3A - Skorpion - SU-130PM etc etc.

 



Tilly042 #116 Posted 21 January 2020 - 12:47 PM

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I don't enjoy it quite as much as I did but then as has been mentioned, its 9 years old.  There are frustrations with wheels, arty, mm but they haven't put me off.  The most frustrating thing for me is play style or indeed lack of by players with thousands of games where players sit in TD positions in anything other than a TD.  The EBR for example being used as a TD at the back, breaks my will to be part of the human race!

 

However, on the flip side, I love some of the missions and I opened a topic on the tokens a couple of weeks ago where I suggested that it was a good thing as I'd been playing all tiers again rather than 8 to 10.  There are plenty of freebies for the F2P guys and I think WG does its best to stay fresh.  I would like to see some more maps or even a return of some of the old ones but overall, I think its still a game most can enjoy.

 

And remember, don't make up another mm thread.  Its much easier for WG to ignore one thread than several :)



ilmavarvas #117 Posted 21 January 2020 - 12:53 PM

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View PostTilly042, on 21 January 2020 - 12:47 PM, said:

I don't enjoy it quite as much as I did but then as has been mentioned, its 9 years old.  There are frustrations with wheels, arty, mm but they haven't put me off.  The most frustrating thing for me is play style or indeed lack of by players with thousands of games where players sit in TD positions in anything other than a TD.  The EBR for example being used as a TD at the back, breaks my will to be part of the human race!

 

Sometimes after initial spotting ring I do retreat back to base & close to arty with EBR105, since so many times enemy EBR's are trying to make quick rush to kill the arty. If nothing happens, then I'll look for an opportunity to do rush after enemy arty.


Edited by ilmavarvas, 21 January 2020 - 12:53 PM.


Gkirmathal #118 Posted 21 January 2020 - 01:03 PM

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View PostHamsterkicker, on 20 January 2020 - 02:52 PM, said:

I would say that the balance between premium tanks and tech tree tanks is just completely off. Not only in ability but also in numbers.

 

...snip...

 

This is one of my main reasons why I am on a hiatus again since august '19, after having tried to pick it WoT back up at around April last year.

I got disenchanted again pretty fast by the current meta state and overall state of balance (like increased discrepancies), a.k. the evolutionary direction of WoT (consequences of decisions made by WG) from 2017 to now. The effects on the FL game mode, for me, made this rather clear. The rework of the mm templates did not have the positive effect on my enjoyment that I was hoping for it would have.

 

TL DR; people get disenchanted (for various reasons) from products, mostly due to a direction a product is taken into by the company who owns and developes said product.


Edited by Gkirmathal, 21 January 2020 - 01:03 PM.


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View Post1ucky, on 20 January 2020 - 02:34 PM, said:

Save time, eat while your arty reloads. :trollface:

 

Never! Eating is art, and needs time! :B:girl:



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.I..

3-15 or 15-3 


Edited by fytic, 21 January 2020 - 03:19 PM.





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