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xx984 #1 Posted 14 January 2020 - 11:25 AM

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As the title says really. Just seems odd.

 

We have the non skinned Amx M4

Non skinned T26E5

Non skinned STG

Non skinned VK 168

And they even sell the non skinned skorp G in the shop sometimes now after people wanted it for awhile.

 

but we have the skinned Pz 58

 

Just seems strange, Always wanted the grey Pz 58 (to mark mainly, as well as it would look really nice with CW Digital camo) Has the regular grey Pz 58 Ever been sold on EU? The only other one i remember is the Black version. 

 

is the grey Pz 58 too Mutz to ask WG? no i'm not sorry for that pun


Edited by xx984, 14 January 2020 - 11:26 AM.


undutchable80 #2 Posted 14 January 2020 - 11:42 AM

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Imagine having waited 2 years for the strv81 to appear in the shop,and WG changes the crew layout so i cant tarde my primo victoria in for the unskinned version.:(

 

I do believe all 'skinned' versions should have unskinned versions available as well. 

 

how is the mutz these days anyway?



xx984 #3 Posted 14 January 2020 - 11:53 AM

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View Postundutchable80, on 14 January 2020 - 10:42 AM, said:

Imagine having waited 2 years for the strv81 to appear in the shop,and WG changes the crew layout so i cant tarde my primo victoria in for the unskinned version.:(

 

I do believe all 'skinned' versions should have unskinned versions available as well. 

 

how is the mutz these days anyway?

Personally, I like it. And do rather well in it. But i did pretty nicely in it even before the buffs though.



LethalWalou #4 Posted 14 January 2020 - 12:40 PM

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You can always try and ask support if they would change it to the non-skinned one. You have nothing to lose.

xx984 #5 Posted 14 January 2020 - 12:45 PM

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View PostLethalWalou, on 14 January 2020 - 11:40 AM, said:

You can always try and ask support if they would change it to the non-skinned one. You have nothing to lose.

Well thats the thing, i don't want to lose the skinned one :P

 

As i said i mainly want it for marking, And i also don't sell/get rid of any tanks i have already marked, Reason why i have two M41 90's, WZ-111 and Alpine, T26E5 and T26E5 Patriot etc 



LethalWalou #6 Posted 14 January 2020 - 12:48 PM

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View Postxx984, on 14 January 2020 - 11:45 AM, said:

Well thats the thing, i don't want to lose the skinned one :P

 

As i said i mainly want it for marking, And i also don't sell/get rid of any tanks i have already marked, Reason why i have two M41 90's, WZ-111 and Alpine, T26E5 and T26E5 Patriot etc 

 

Solution? Get it changed and then buy the skinned version again. You would be ready to use money on the non-skinned version anyways, so why not. 



Balc0ra #7 Posted 14 January 2020 - 01:10 PM

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Who knows. Some tanks got a non-skinned version rather fast. Others had to wait years like the Primo Vic. And at the top of my head, besides the KR that is a historically themed tank. It's the only one that doesn't have a non-skinned version. So who knows, it might not be far off.



xx984 #8 Posted 14 January 2020 - 01:11 PM

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View PostLethalWalou, on 14 January 2020 - 11:48 AM, said:

 

Solution? Get it changed and then buy the skinned version again. You would be ready to use money on the non-skinned version anyways, so why not. 

thats actually a good idea, will try it



Ceeb #9 Posted 14 January 2020 - 01:13 PM

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I think its boils down to Laziness on WGs part, No one can make excuses, not even the mods,  there is no reason on the planet why non skinned versions are released.  I would have bought STRV 81 to years ago, but because the Sabbaton is Meh! and it has a different crew layout. It put me off the 81.

 

WG too busy releasing another Soviet heavy tank that we dont need.

 

None skinned versions are just an easy win for WG. Give people the choice.



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Does it even matter? It's still trash.

Desyatnik_Pansy #11 Posted 14 January 2020 - 06:12 PM

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The unskinned Panzer 58 Was available in FL, but otherwise, nada. I believe they might do something with the Mutz/Panzer 58 With the Swiss tree if it ever happens and I think that's why they're holding off.

 

Also unfortunately I can't mod this one for you fam.



Ratriq #12 Posted 15 January 2020 - 12:21 PM

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View Postxx984, on 14 January 2020 - 10:25 AM, said:

As the title says really. Just seems odd.

 

We have the non skinned Amx M4

Non skinned T26E5

Non skinned STG

Non skinned VK 168

And they even sell the non skinned skorp G in the shop sometimes now after people wanted it for awhile.

 

but we have the skinned Pz 58

 

Just seems strange, Always wanted the grey Pz 58 (to mark mainly, as well as it would look really nice with CW Digital camo) Has the regular grey Pz 58 Ever been sold on EU? The only other one i remember is the Black version. 

 

is the grey Pz 58 too Mutz to ask WG? no i'm not sorry for that pun

Don't know how much help this might be but there are some "skins" you can download which removes the skin from the mutz.



Balc0ra #13 Posted 15 January 2020 - 01:38 PM

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View Postxx984, on 14 January 2020 - 01:11 PM, said:

thats actually a good idea, will try it

 

There are 2 accounts with the grey non-skinned on it on EU... I suspect it's far fetched to ask for a trade :P Tho you can try for the Schwarzpz.58 instead that you don't have and get the Mutz later via bonds etc. The worst you can get is a no. As unlike past trades I've done like the 111 to Alpine, there is no offer on the table for it atm.



Zmago5000 #14 Posted 15 January 2020 - 01:52 PM

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The muttz is one of the ugliest tanks around in my garage,..and the switch  pz58 Mutz --> pz58 Schwarzpanzer is not possible, i tried via support a while ago and they said its not possible cos they are different tanks,.. :) ,..didnt even expect the support to help,.....cos in about 3 cases they didnt help me even once....

just got  meme message tralala we are here to help BUT unfortunately we cant do that ...

 

just for your information about the help support,....I got Pz. 3 K on gift card from my friend previous year for new years eve present,..., it stated its valid till 31.12.2018. I got home and about at 6am in the morning on 1.1.2019 i asked if they could help,..of course not, we re here to help, BUT unfortunately,... :)


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xx984 #15 Posted 15 January 2020 - 02:16 PM

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View PostRatriq, on 15 January 2020 - 11:21 AM, said:

Don't know how much help this might be but there are some "skins" you can download which removes the skin from the mutz.

well the reason i want it is to 3 mark, Not really for its looks that much. As the non skinned is a completely different vehicle, different mark, stats etc

View PostBalc0ra, on 15 January 2020 - 12:38 PM, said:

 

There are 2 accounts with the grey non-skinned on it on EU... I suspect it's far fetched to ask for a trade :P Tho you can try for the Schwarzpz.58 instead that you don't have and get the Mutz later via bonds etc. The worst you can get is a no. As unlike past trades I've done like the 111 to Alpine, there is no offer on the table for it atm.

You're probably correct, but worth a try

 



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View Postxx984, on 15 January 2020 - 01:16 PM, said:

well the reason i want it is to 3 mark, Not really for its looks that much. As the non skinned is a completely different vehicle, different mark, stats etc

Oh, didn't actually know that since most skinned are identical to their counterparts.



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View PostRatriq, on 15 January 2020 - 10:25 PM, said:

Oh, didn't actually know that since most skinned are identical to their counterparts.


Well, they are identical, it's just a different entitiy in the game. By stats he meant your personal stats in the vehicle, not the technical characteristics of the tank.



Wreckedum #18 Posted 15 January 2020 - 11:31 PM

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I never have got my head around why WG think it's a good idea to have so many tanks missing from Tech Tree. Yeah it could be crowded in it's present form, but always having to go to the wiki to see what is what is retarded

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View PostMrEdweird, on 15 January 2020 - 10:28 PM, said:


Well, they are identical, it's just a different entitiy in the game. By stats he meant your personal stats in the vehicle, not the technical characteristics of the tank.

Oh, okay.



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'Coz its trash.
Be surprised, if you see Defender or Progetto in the tech tree.




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