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Lee3452 #21 Posted 04 January 2012 - 04:12 PM

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I think T-54 is a dog so dissapointed when I got it. As said before, it mainly gets put up against Tier 9 + heavys. It stands no chance with its crap gun. Before people say flank them that's only good for one on one. There is usually another tank on the side lines which will take you out. I would like to sell this tank but it took me so much work to get. It is definitely the worst Tier 9 medium in my opinion.

ColonelTrautman #22 Posted 04 January 2012 - 05:36 PM

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me and my mate both got our T-54 today so thats another 2 on the list. Made in China is the main medium now but at least we are keeping old traditions alive and i've earnt it with the grind.

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View Postmamlas, on 03 January 2012 - 12:48 AM, said:

Its the shell/role.Battle scout is useless in lemming-train oriented pubs.The running costs is horrible, partly due to gun, partly due to worst dmg per silver ratio ingame:)And matchmaking hates you.And yes, even the zealous T-54 drivers(me) have went for T-44. It makes me more money, gets better matchmaking and i don't have to take crap for OP tank/retarded driver that often.Tbh i haven't bothered to even drive double on it lately. Needs to much focus and brings little reward.(pubs)
+1, man.

I drive it only when platooned with next 2 clanmates - all in T9 med. Otherwise I have almost no fun from it, 'cause you can rarelly find cooperation at randoms - even in t9-10 battles :(

lokkagutt #24 Posted 05 January 2012 - 03:11 PM

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View Posttheghostcat, on 03 January 2012 - 07:45 PM, said:

I think the over all problem is tier 9.

The only tier 9 med I have is the patton, only up the T-43 is the RU line(and Panther 2 for the Ger). I want the T54 eventually, and the E-50.
But tier 9 is a horrible place for medium tanks. I can only play my patton during high traffic times, otherwise I end up in city battles paired off against E75's.


I don't imagine that its any different with the T54 or the E-50

The only time I see number of tier 9 med is during special events - like 5x, or late night during the weekend.

I havent gotten my T54 yet but working on it. But I see them in almost every high tier game I play. But what are you talking about? Its these matches that are fun when in a tier 9 med (atleast with my Patton). When your the lowest on the list with a few artys and some other meds and packed with tier 9 and 10 heavies. Love it. There you really can show how mediums can wreak havoc amongst the heavies. And who can say its not fun to see top tank after top tank burn since your spotting for arty\snipers and they have no ide whos shoting them or whos spotting them  :Smile_honoring:  Games where you more or less can roflstomp every tank out there is hardly fun. But it gives good xp and credits. Dont know how the T54 is but the Patton is a good moneymaker so I imagine the T54 cant be that bad at it either

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View Postlokkagutt, on 05 January 2012 - 03:11 PM, said:

I havent gotten my T54 yet but working on it. But I see them in almost every high tier game I play. But what are you talking about? Its these matches that are fun when in a tier 9 med (atleast with my Patton). When your the lowest on the list with a few artys and some other meds and packed with tier 9 and 10 heavies. Love it. There you really can show how mediums can wreak havoc amongst the heavies. And who can say its not fun to see top tank after top tank burn since your spotting for arty\snipers and they have no ide whos shoting them or whos spotting them  :Smile_honoring:  Games where you more or less can roflstomp every tank out there is hardly fun. But it gives good xp and credits. Dont know how the T54 is but the Patton is a good moneymaker so I imagine the T54 cant be that bad at it either
Even though my stats suck (but is improving) my T54 is by far the tank that is most fun to drive. Good matches tend to be excellent, bad really bad like one shot by arty doing 55 km/h

FerdinandDebargos #26 Posted 05 January 2012 - 03:29 PM

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I stopped playing mine because in a 54 it's just too expensive & the matchmaker hates you. In most matches it was a case of being across from their E75 or IS-4, and funnily enough a glorified scout isn't going to be as useful as a T9 heavy. It's not that I even think the gun is bad, it's just not good enough compared to Patton/E50.

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Every once in a while it's a fun tank to play, but too expensive. Not fair in comparison with tier 9 heavies.

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T-54 is common... if you play tier IX. I hardly saw em grinding up to the T-54, but when now im in it I almost never see a type 59 as they are replaced in frequency with T-54's.

What is really annoying about the tank is its useless until its fully upgraded. LB cant pen anything as I seem to fight almost exclusively e-50/e-75/e-100/maus/is-4/is-7 so its a fortune in HiEx for a pethetic 1-2% damage and 5% on a crit IF your lucky. I had to grind up the turret + D-54 with mostly free XP to buy em cos the T-54 couldn't earn it itself. Even with the decent gun I need the engine upgrade bad as it accelerates far too slow to flank heavies (ive got out accelerated by tiger II the other day). My death/loose rate in this is the highest of any tank I have driven :( At least when my T-44 fireballed or racked without an explosion making me use a repair kit every match, I had some really good matches in it. This thing asks me to throw 20k creds on repairs and around 15K on about 13 shots every match, with earnings of around 24-28k on a win.. thats some bad maths right there! How somoene is supposed to suffer that kind of constant loss until they elite the tank and call it fun I dont know. Still im almost there cos I really want to know if it can be fun but im getting very put off and its this joyless grind that may be making the decline worse.

The tank seems to be suffering from perma tier 8-10 matchmaking, which isn't terrible but there are not enough tier 6/7s in matches for some easy kills to keep your credits up. Hell I really wanted to get my own back on T-59s with the T-54 as the daddy version of it and I dont even see em!

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View PostDeath_Post, on 02 January 2012 - 12:56 PM, said:

Now that the type59 has become the next big thing in the premium tank line does this mean its the end of the T54? I personally haven't seen a T-54 in the last two weeks...
Have both and playing both every day.
I see T-54s every night, generally in packs of 2-3.

T-54 is an excellent tank, great fun to drive, best battle scout for tier10 battles.
But nothing else after it got nerfed to death.

MACtic #30 Posted 06 January 2012 - 04:25 AM

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I played it couple of times after 7.1 update and it seems slightly better now. I don't know if that's the normalization change that update 7.0 introduced or not but if feels a little better. But as I said It's just my feeling after few battles so don't quote me on that, the tank still sucks.

Panzerfahrer_Jaguar2 #31 Posted 06 January 2012 - 07:52 AM

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Every once in a while it's a fun tank to play, but too expensive. Not fair in comparison with tier 9 heavies.

You have to compare it with T10. So imo its fair.
Btw: I see a lot of T54s.

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I play the IS-4, see quite a few T-54s here and there. I see more Type 59s in tier 8/9 battles and T-54 in tier 10.

KAFKAS_KARTALI #33 Posted 07 January 2012 - 08:02 PM

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View Postfrajp, on 03 January 2012 - 08:43 PM, said:

I was really looking forward to my T54 when grinding the T44, but now i am a bit disappointed cause its such a moneyburner :( ..
Premium account, 2 kills, 10 shots fired, 8 hits and hardly not the credits back to repair and refill ammo...
Now my premium expired i go about 10k credits minus everytime i play the T54..
Is it the same for everyone?

Same situation here mate but fun to drive.

Injector_X #34 Posted 07 January 2012 - 08:31 PM

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I say that they should leave the T-54 untouched, except for one thing they should return its accuracy while going top speed and lower the dispersion when turning sharply or just turning and moving fast, so it would be viable as a killer tank again, it would not be OP anymore with the Frenchies out there that will track and kill you, or their arty. But game DEVs please increase the T-54 accuracy on the move and lower the dispersion on tight turns PLEASE!  :Smile-izmena:  You devs know that T-54 was the first tank equipped with vertical stabilizer as in from the start, its built in. So you know that T-54 should be most accurate medium tank on the move and turning in this game. Not overall most accurate, but just when going full speed and doing tight turns. Like people say it was in the Beta...  :huh:

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View PostInjector_X, on 07 January 2012 - 08:31 PM, said:

I say that they should leave the T-54 untouched, except for one thing they should return its accuracy while going top speed and lower the dispersion when turning sharply or just turning and moving fast, so it would be viable as a killer tank again, it would not be OP anymore with the Frenchies out there that will track and kill you, or their arty. But game DEVs please increase the T-54 accuracy on the move and lower the dispersion on tight turns PLEASE!  :Smile-izmena:  You devs know that T-54 was the first tank equipped with vertical stabilizer as in from the start, its built in. So you know that T-54 should be most accurate medium tank on the move and turning in this game. Not overall most accurate, but just when going full speed and doing tight turns. Like people say it was in the Beta...  :huh:

Either that, or reduce the aiming time. The shell cost of the top gun should also  be reduced  :)

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T 54 to porażka prawie zawsze walczy z elitą ciężkich czołgów a dochód jaki przynosi nie wystarcza na pokrycie kosztów amunicji nie wspomnę o naprawie ,podam mały przykład zniszczyłem typ 59 ,tygrysa,i T54 ,wykryłem trzy inne pojazdy , bitwę przegraliśmy zarobiłem jakieś 15k a wydałem na naprawię amunicję ponad 20k i po co tu walczyć?


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Vogelhund #37 Posted 21 January 2012 - 02:20 PM

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T-54 is problem of low damage and excessive ammunition cost.

So far i hope WG fix that problem.


xml0973 #38 Posted 21 January 2012 - 05:17 PM

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T-54 is extrmely expensive to run vs other T9 meds, such as the E-50. My bro has an elite E-50 and I let him use my account tto try out the 54, he liked the tank but found it to be a huge less earner than his E-50. And he also found the E-50 to be a better T9 med:P

Hardly play mine...a round now and then to keep it from rusting. Had it in beta and it was great fun but now...blehh not fun when it ruins you totally even if you have a rather good game.

Mounted the LB1 100mm and ofcourse then it earns well...but then it's an uparmoured Type with the MM of a T-54..that's not fun either:P

WG: please adjust the 54 to on pairs with it's counter-parts T9 meds!!

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Just finished a 10 game grind with my T54. Working toward the top gun and frankly it is a pain. 2/10 for wins, average earn 3K a game (would have lost nearly 41K overall had it been a non-premium account). I hope it gets better when I get the top gun otherwise I won't bother with it and just drive my IS4 (average earn over 10 games of 15K).

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View PostBlackeon, on 21 January 2012 - 06:16 PM, said:

Just finished a 10 game grind with my T54. Working toward the top gun and frankly it is a pain. 2/10 for wins, average earn 3K a game (would have lost nearly 41K overall had it been a non-premium account). I hope it gets better when I get the top gun otherwise I won't bother with it and just drive my IS4 (average earn over 10 games of 15K).

give up on it like i did

even with a victory you dont make much with ammo and repair costs

i just drive my object for credits and is4




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