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Poll: Which tank has the biggest carry potential? (39 members have cast votes)

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Which tank is most fun?

  1. Progetto 65 (25 votes [53.19%])

    Percentage of vote: 53.19%

  2. TVP T50/51 (12 votes [25.53%])

    Percentage of vote: 25.53%

  3. Leopard 1 (10 votes [21.28%])

    Percentage of vote: 21.28%

Which tank is best and has biggest carry potential?

  1. Progetto 65 (34 votes [87.18%])

    Percentage of vote: 87.18%

  2. TVP T50/51 (3 votes [7.69%])

    Percentage of vote: 7.69%

  3. Leopard 1 (2 votes [5.13%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.13%

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saurilian #1 Posted 23 January 2020 - 12:07 PM

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I'm currently looking for second tank I want to get after STB-1 before my premium time runs out. I tried all 3 on test server, currently like the 65 the most but I'm not sure as I own the 46 and I didn't bought it to stay in my garage. I have a thing with Leopard and I just can't get myself to like it, even after the buffs. It's a realy decent tank, but I want something more... unique and with better carry potential. I play for results/stats/fun and I hate grinding so I want to pick only one of them. I have only 40 days of premium and I plan this tank to be the last one I'm gonna grind because I already own around 30 tanks I love to play and I'm not a collector. I hope you can help me

Edited by saurilian, 23 January 2020 - 12:36 PM.


Ancybot #2 Posted 23 January 2020 - 12:09 PM

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All of them

Shacou #3 Posted 23 January 2020 - 12:19 PM

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TVP has the best burst. Progetto is most flexible. Leopard is better after buffs, but it still pales in comparison to those two.
TVP is fun with quick burst potential, but Progetto has the best carry potential, I think.

splash_time #4 Posted 23 January 2020 - 12:32 PM

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proggetto 65 is so good, because it's a multi-roll tank, it can work as a single shot and an auto loader, it takes 7.5 seconds to empty your clip after firing the first shell. And it has the "in-middle" rate of penetration, also a good shell velocity. 

 

leopard 1 is just a sniper, you won't be able to fight in front lines at all. Only from far-medium range. 

TVP T50/51 is a fast tank, and it has great intra-clip reload time and even fast clip reload.  Which allows you to empty your clip in 4.5 seconds after firing the first shell. But it lacks the penetration plus shell velocity. 

 



mpf1959 #5 Posted 23 January 2020 - 12:39 PM

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Which tank has the biggest carry potential?

 

All according who is in them, if it's me, none! :honoring:



saurilian #6 Posted 23 January 2020 - 12:44 PM

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View Postmpf1959, on 23 January 2020 - 12:39 PM, said:

Which tank has the biggest carry potential?

 

All according who is in them, if it's me, none! :honoring:

 

Please, the question specifically refers to tank not a player. I understand what you mean, but it's not a direct answer to my question. The question is based on assumption the player has average skill. Your answer only applies to people with very low skill. 


Edited by saurilian, 23 January 2020 - 12:47 PM.


24doom24 #7 Posted 23 January 2020 - 12:48 PM

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Progetto probably has biggest carry potential. It's more flexible and not as paper as the Leo while not being hindered by long autoloader reloads. 

Suurpolskija #8 Posted 23 January 2020 - 12:51 PM

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Afaik all of them are fun. Progetto is probably the strongest of the bunch. 

TungstenHitman #9 Posted 23 January 2020 - 01:07 PM

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The tanks with mags have the most potential for carrying by way of their ability to dish out a lot of damage at multiple targets quickly which a single shooter obviously cannot. This means that if several remaining targets press that single shot tank sensibly together they can take it out before the single shot tank can reload enough times to deal with those several targets whereas with a mag you reel off 4 fast shots which is going to be enough to at least remove several of those most likely non-full hp targets pushing it and this gives the mag tanks a lot more potential to survive an attack from multiple targets that rush it compared to a single shot tank. 

 

They may all read similar DPM but when rushed by several targets the "per minute" part of DPM is not a factor since you are not going to survive being shot at by multiple targets for a minute are you and so that bust damage is a massive advantage to quickly swing the numbers game back to some sort of parity by quickly ripping shots into already low hp targets and taking them out before they can make their numbers count. 

 

So for 4 vs 1 it's a situation that translates into roughly 12k dpm vs 3k dpm(for talk sake) but with the skoda you actually have 1280 damage in 4.5 seconds and the progetto 1,440 in 7.5 seconds whereas the Leo can only deal one single 420 dmg shot within that same time window since it takes at best about 7.8 seconds to reload... so can you see how vs several low hp targets or even just one or two full hp targets that the mag tanks can quickly level things up and take out a tank really really quickly whereas the Leo or ANY single shot tank, simply can't and there really isn't much more time anyway if you are being attacked by several tanks, and with single shot tanks they need time and work cover to grind down their target.

 

The Progetto is about the best potential since it blends the best of both worlds and can lean on being a single shooter and has a bouncy upper hull too so can whittle down targets and sneak in a single shot every now and then during dangerous situations while still reloading that single shot the skoda cannot.


Edited by TungstenHitman, 23 January 2020 - 01:09 PM.


vonadnan #10 Posted 23 January 2020 - 02:01 PM

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On my way to Skoda and Progetto, tier 9s are awsome, my pick would be Progetto, and Skoda after that. Leo is nice since the buffs, but Progetto is still better in my opinion.. 

TungstenHitman #11 Posted 23 January 2020 - 02:47 PM

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View Postsaurilian, on 23 January 2020 - 11:07 AM, said:

 I have only 40 days of premium and I plan this tank to be the last one I'm gonna grind because I already own around 30 tanks I love to play and I'm not a collector. I hope you can help me

 

Based on that I would say 100% the Progetto. The Skoda has a really shhhh T8 to grind through and the German line is "ok" but a little bit meh along the way whereas the Italian grind is actually very tolerable and fun throughout with no such shhhh tanks along the way plus you get probably the strongest tech tree tier8 medium tank in the game, the Pantera, which is also very meta strong for frontline unlike the other two mentioned nations so you get some nice keepers other than the T10 plus the Standard B is way more fun than the single shooter Leo PTA imo(Though the PTA is really very nice too) along with being the kinder T9 module grind as the PTA is really shhhh until you have almost everything unlocked and so there's no real keyboard breakers in the Italian grind.


Edited by TungstenHitman, 23 January 2020 - 02:49 PM.


AngelofAwe #12 Posted 23 January 2020 - 03:00 PM

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Well take this with a sack of salt as I haven't played the progetto 65 at all and I haven't tried out the new Leo.

The TVP however doesn't have too great of a carrying potential. The clip is nice but it's also a drawback in that you're locked out of the battle while reloading it.
The standard ammo is also pretty meh and being a paper tank it's lacking in important aspects in this meta.

The Leopard was an awful carry tank. It may be better now but I still can't imagine it to be any sort of carry. It can probably deal good damage but it will never lead a charge or take out important targets that make mistakes and it's still a huge and vulnerable target.

The Progetto seems to be the strongest on paper. It has great burst potential but it can also fire without having to reload an entire clip like the TVP. Much more flexibility than either of the others.
I'd probably go for that one. 

TungstenHitman #13 Posted 23 January 2020 - 03:52 PM

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Just noticed you've a 47% win rate. This is no criticism, more of a genuine logical recommendation. All those tanks on your list are very powerful but they are skill scaling tanks. In other words a skillful player can achieve great things with their attributes but a weaker player will really suffer with these tanks weaknesses.

 

Logically I would therefore recommend the 430U. All this line is strong and the both the 430 and 430U have some of the highest win rates of all same tier meds in the game, fact. The beauty of the 430 Brothers is they don't really require much skill to be effective with them. They are well armored and with that you are "getting off the hook" when you make a pigs ear of a play or make a mistake. Not all the time obviously but certainly more times that you will get away with doing something dumb with a paper German, Czech or Italian med!! They are mobile enough, certainly for their armor levels, even get strong camo so "the other guy" on your team gets spotted and shot before you do while you just auto-aim a big ignorant bone shaking Russian shell into whatever target fancies eating it the most. Problem with the 430's are they really don't reward higher levels of skill as much as the tanks with rail guns and ultra fast aim times but... meh... do you really care about that? You just want fun and mash tanks for minimal effort right? Go Russia. 



war4peace #14 Posted 23 January 2020 - 04:12 PM

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Projetto hands down. It allows you to either burst damage or trade shots, which is very important. 

saurilian #15 Posted 23 January 2020 - 04:16 PM

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View PostTungstenHitman, on 23 January 2020 - 03:52 PM, said:

Just noticed you've a 47% win rate. This is no criticism, more of a genuine logical recommendation. All those tanks on your list are very powerful but they are skill scaling tanks. In other words a skillful player can achieve great things with their attributes but a weaker player will really suffer with these tanks weaknesses.

 

Logically I would therefore recommend the 430U. All this line is strong and the both the 430 and 430U have some of the highest win rates of all same tier meds in the game, fact. The beauty of the 430 Brothers is they don't really require much skill to be effective with them. They are well armored and with that you are "getting off the hook" when you make a pigs ear of a play or make a mistake. Not all the time obviously but certainly more times that you will get away with doing something dumb with a paper German, Czech or Italian med!! They are mobile enough, certainly for their armor levels, even get strong camo so "the other guy" on your team gets spotted and shot before you do while you just auto-aim a big ignorant bone shaking Russian shell into whatever target fancies eating it the most. Problem with the 430's are they really don't reward higher levels of skill as much as the tanks with rail guns and ultra fast aim times but... meh... do you really care about that? You just want fun and mash tanks for minimal effort right? Go Russia. 

 

Thanks for trying to help but you didn't really checked my account. I started the game 2 months ago with 300wn8 that I had when I was playing 6 years ago. The 47% winrate comes from that period also. My last 30 days winrate is average 50% and some weeks I do around 53/55%, some days even 60/65%. I'm not a good player (my wn8 stays currently from 1300 to 1600) but I'm not that big of a beginner to play 430U more than I do arleady. I have T44, T54, Obj 140, 430U, 430 & 703 and like the T44, T54 & 140 way more than the rest. I'm gonna use your advice and go for Progetto 65 ^^) Thanks alot


Edited by saurilian, 23 January 2020 - 04:24 PM.


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View Postsaurilian, on 23 January 2020 - 04:16 PM, said:

 

Thanks for trying to help but you didn't really checked my account. I started the game 2 months ago with 300wn8 that I had when I was playing 6 years ago. The 47% winrate comes from that period also. My last 30 days winrate is average 50% and some weeks I do around 53/55%, some days even 60/65%. I'm not the best player (my wn8 stays currently from 1300 to 1600) but I'm not that big of a beginner to play 430U more than I do arleady. I have T44, T54, Obj 140, 430U, 430 & 703 and I'd say that's enough. 

BS if you started playing again 2 months ago... how you got a Ebr 75 ...those are not sold for almost a year. :trollface:

 

 



saurilian #17 Posted 23 January 2020 - 04:31 PM

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View PostRobbie_T, on 23 January 2020 - 04:24 PM, said:

BS if you started playing again 2 months ago... how you got a Ebr 75 ...those are not sold for almost a year. :trollface:

 

 

(edit) They were sold in October & June 2019. I'm sorry you missed it

 


Edited by saurilian, 23 January 2020 - 04:47 PM.


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View PostRobbie_T, on 23 January 2020 - 04:24 PM, said:

BS if you started playing again 2 months ago... how you got a Ebr 75 ...those are not sold for almost a year. :trollface:

 

 

https://worldoftanks.eu/en/news/special-offers/trust-the-french-offers/ :girl:



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View PostRobbie_T, on 23 January 2020 - 03:24 PM, said:

BS if you started playing again 2 months ago... how you got a Ebr 75 ...those are not sold for almost a year. :trollface:

 

 

 

lol BUSTED! Also has the premium Progetto which wasn't even in the game 6 years ago, nor the 430U. Good call sir. Also,  50% and 60% win rates? Progetto has 41% win rate which is a more recent play than 6 years ago obviously while the relatively new 430U? Try 41% too, oof!! and the 430 which I'll assume is the newer T9 offer, try 43% win rate, double oof! 

 

@OP. You're a big fat phony!

 

 

...have you tried Tetris or Barbie? Everyone recommends that to me. Personally I find eating crayons the best.

 

Spoiler

 


Edited by TungstenHitman, 23 January 2020 - 04:44 PM.


saurilian #20 Posted 23 January 2020 - 04:45 PM

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View PostMiepie, on 23 January 2020 - 04:41 PM, said:

 

That's it! I couldn't find that, thanks! 


Edited by saurilian, 23 January 2020 - 04:49 PM.





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