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1_9_1939 #1 Posted 28 January 2020 - 11:21 AM

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Suicide spotting is annoying, and its unfair, add a penalty for this - if you die in 10 seconds, all your spot in the 10s interval will be credited to the players who were spotted as a compensation for unfair spot + big penalty for death given to spotted players as a compensation.

It is simple, fair and it will unlearn tomatoes to suicide spot better players.


Edited by 1_9_1939, 28 January 2020 - 11:30 AM.


GodTank2 #2 Posted 28 January 2020 - 11:37 AM

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How is it unfair? The guy spotting literally dies for it?

Nice reward players who camp in the back so if anyone dares to spot them they will receive compensation for the "unfair" play.


Edited by GodTank2, 28 January 2020 - 11:38 AM.


Private_Miros #3 Posted 28 January 2020 - 11:41 AM

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View PostGodTank2, on 28 January 2020 - 10:37 AM, said:

How is it unfair? The guy spotting literally dies for it?

 

I believe he considers it unfair to him as he would like a scout that actually spots targets, rather than an enemy base before anyone in position.

 

With nerf he means punish scouting that isn't scouting, but just spotting enemies early on without the team being ready to shoot at them.

 

That's just a translation from the OP, not an own statement or me taking any position in this IMO silly topic - ok, that last part was a position being taken.



will0hlep #4 Posted 28 January 2020 - 11:42 AM

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okay... look, if people doing that is making you mad, then you need reminding that "it only game, why you have to be mad".

As for punishing light tanks by taking away their spotting in the 10 seconds before they die if they were "suicide spotting".
1) how do you suppose the WG servers are supposed to judge what is and isn't suicide spotting and what is and isn't an intelligent play?
2) surly the punishment for suicide spotting is already low xp, low credits, low wn8, low win rate ect. I don't think further punishment is really required, your just whipping a dead horse at this point

Homer_J #5 Posted 28 January 2020 - 11:46 AM

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Suicide spotting is already punished because you don't get the scout medal on a loss any more.

malachi6 #6 Posted 28 January 2020 - 11:52 AM

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I wonder what the OP does on occasion that royalty annoys their teammates?  The veil of ignorance is an easy curtain to open.

1_9_1939 #7 Posted 28 January 2020 - 11:57 AM

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View PostPrivate_Miros, on 28 January 2020 - 11:41 AM, said:

 

I believe he considers it unfair to him as he would like a scout that actually spots targets, rather than an enemy base before anyone in position.

 

With nerf he means punish scouting that isn't scouting, but just spotting enemies early on without the team being ready to shoot at them.

 

That's just a translation from the OP, not an own statement or me taking any position in this IMO silly topic - ok, that last part was a position being taken.

Exactly its the point.



NekoPuffer_PPP #8 Posted 28 January 2020 - 12:02 PM

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View Post1_9_1939, on 28 January 2020 - 11:21 AM, said:

Suicide spotting is annoying, and its unfair, add a penalty for this - if you die in 10 seconds, all your spot in the 10s interval will be credited to the players who were spotted as a compensation for unfair spot + big penalty for death given to spotted players as a compensation.

It is simple, fair and it will unlearn tomatoes to suicide spot better players.

 

It's not against the rules...it's just annoying...who cares, anyway? A true suicide-spotter will die after spotting half the enemy team. One that spots the entire team and survives is not a suicide-spotter, he's a hero...or one lucky mothe--:trollface:



Orkbert #9 Posted 28 January 2020 - 12:05 PM

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Well, the OP nearly exclusively plays TDs, so I guess he would really like some extra seconds to get into his camping positions unspotted.

The_Naa #10 Posted 28 January 2020 - 12:20 PM

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View PostNekoPuffer_PPP, on 28 January 2020 - 12:02 PM, said:

 

It's not against the rules...it's just annoying...who cares, anyway? A true suicide-spotter will die after spotting half the enemy team. One that spots the entire team and survives is not a suicide-spotter, he's a hero...or one lucky mothe--:trollface:

you reminded me of the topic where you were talking about your team being toxic because you camped bush instead of yoloing or suicide scouting.

and now we have this thread.

i find that interesting.


Edited by The_Naa, 28 January 2020 - 12:20 PM.


BQBD #11 Posted 28 January 2020 - 12:20 PM

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How about we nerf/punish players who drive Heavy Tanks and dont know how to use their armor, or punish camping TDs who have no idea how to use bush mechanics and get spotted after taking one shot and die.

 

Few examples for my point.

 

What you propose is not the way to go about educating players on how to properly play the class. Getting destroyed and losing a battle is punishment enough.

Some people learn from it, some don't. The people who don't learn....you can't change them, as they do not wish to change.



NekoPuffer_PPP #12 Posted 28 January 2020 - 12:45 PM

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View PostThe_Naa, on 28 January 2020 - 12:20 PM, said:

you reminded me of the topic where you were talking about your team being toxic because you camped bush instead of yoloing or suicide scouting.

and now we have this thread.

i find that interesting.

 

You can please some of the people, some of the time, but not all of the people, all of the time.



Captain_Kremen0 #13 Posted 28 January 2020 - 02:46 PM

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Funny old nick OP. Lots thinks happened on that date - none of them good. Fancy a report OP?

Robbie_T #14 Posted 28 January 2020 - 03:00 PM

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View Post1_9_1939, on 28 January 2020 - 11:21 AM, said:

Suicide spotting is annoying, and its unfair, add a penalty for this - if you die in 10 seconds, all your spot in the 10s interval will be credited to the players who were spotted as a compensation for unfair spot + big penalty for death given to spotted players as a compensation.

It is simple, fair and it will unlearn tomatoes to suicide spot better players.

No

But they should implement something that if you get reported for suicide rushes a lot in a certain time  temp Ban.

 



Rommel_Bob_Carius #15 Posted 28 January 2020 - 04:35 PM

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Then you also should punish braindead heavy oder med tanks trying to rush over the field on Malinovka... 

Or ignorants playing tier 5 upwards without 6th sense skilled...

 

Useless point and not in WG's interest, no staff available for screening thousands of replays. 

 

 



GustyOWindflap #16 Posted 28 January 2020 - 04:42 PM

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It all comes down to trying to tell people how they can and can't play the game.

TheJ4ckal #17 Posted 28 January 2020 - 05:02 PM

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I think some people just want a game where they drive around shooting at static targets and no one fires back, and they get given 10 Tier 8 premiums.

Balc0ra #18 Posted 28 January 2020 - 05:38 PM

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So you want to reward those that got spotted? That won't be rigged after 2 am right? And considering how some maps are setup. Most lights can do exactly that less than 30 seconds in and get away with it just fine. Giving early intel to your team on what goes where that is equally vital. Like on Widepark or Mines. Basically saying "don't go hill on mines or peek over the railway on Widepark, you will only reward the enemy team".

 

 



BlackBloodBandit #19 Posted 28 January 2020 - 07:54 PM

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View Post1_9_1939, on 28 January 2020 - 11:21 AM, said:

Suicide spotting is annoying, and its unfair, add a penalty for this - if you die in 10 seconds, all your spot in the 10s interval will be credited to the players who were spotted as a compensation for unfair spot + big penalty for death given to spotted players as a compensation.

It is simple, fair and it will unlearn tomatoes to suicide spot better players.

Got no clue what your idea is. Basically this means that the team the "suicider" is on, gets punished double time, for something they haven't done. Makese sense.. oh no it doesn't. It would be a lot better to give the team of the suicider that "compensation" you speak of, as they are not to blame for the death of their yolo-scout.

Trash players don't learn. They already get barely any xp if they camp redline and the next chance they get, they do it all over again.



Sir_Armand #20 Posted 29 January 2020 - 08:21 AM

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View PostNekoPuffer_PPP, on 28 January 2020 - 12:02 PM, said:

 

It's not against the rules...it's just annoying...who cares, anyway? A true suicide-spotter will die after spotting half the enemy team. One that spots the entire team and survives is not a suicide-spotter, he's a hero...or one lucky mothe--:trollface:



Or driving a car.






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