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Makroros_The_Arty_Magnet #1 Posted 29 January 2020 - 08:04 PM

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So today I thought I'd start my grind on the double barreled tank.
Several games in, I must say I've seen multiple KV-3's often in enemy team. I was loading standard rounds, cause I was taught to do so. So I poke out with my turret at beginning of games, each time to be met with a 400 APCR from opposing KV-3. Cause it's just easy to go through the mantlet.
Now I'm playing different game.
So, WG, when are we expecting the damage nerf to those gold rounds?
Also, Am I also supposed to play gold exclusivly and just earn the extra money by playing premium tanks with premium time I have? How is that not pay to win? It ruined my today's games.

Edited by Makroros_The_Arty_Magnet, 29 January 2020 - 08:05 PM.


shikaka9 #2 Posted 29 January 2020 - 08:06 PM

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KV-3 ?  :teethhappy: wait till you get shot 2xGold 

Desyatnik_Pansy #3 Posted 29 January 2020 - 08:12 PM

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This isn't new unfortunately.

Balc0ra #4 Posted 29 January 2020 - 08:14 PM

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View PostMakroros_The_Arty_Magnet, on 29 January 2020 - 08:04 PM, said:

Now I'm playing different game.

 

First time getting gold smacked?

 

View PostMakroros_The_Arty_Magnet, on 29 January 2020 - 08:04 PM, said:

So, WG, when are we expecting the damage nerf to those gold rounds?

 

Is the fact that they pressed 2 the issue. Or the fact that they did damage? As tbh, even with half the damage done. People would still come here to complain due to blocking missions etc. And even did see a Borsig complain about gold ammo spam from a KV-3 today. And hulldown the IS-2-II is fairly effective. But hull won't bounce either their AP or gold tbh. Even half aimed.



Makroros_The_Arty_Magnet #5 Posted 29 January 2020 - 09:14 PM

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View PostBalc0ra, on 29 January 2020 - 07:14 PM, said:

 

And hulldown the IS-2-II is fairly effective. But hull won't bounce either their AP or gold tbh. Even half aimed.

I was getting b*slapped through the mantlet like it was Papal State's brothel XIII'th century. In KV-3, as I wrote, NOT some Borsig.



1ucky #6 Posted 30 January 2020 - 04:56 AM

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View PostMakroros_The_Arty_Magnet, on 29 January 2020 - 08:04 PM, said:

(...) I was loading standard rounds, cause I was taught to do so. (...)

Who taught you how to do that?

And why did they have to teach you at all, were you just spamming gold from the get go?



Oldtanker68 #7 Posted 30 January 2020 - 06:12 AM

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Meta has changed greatly the last couple years. Goldspam was frowned upon earlier, but it’s now normal.
Nobody even mention it after a game.
Streamers load full gold under the excuse they are “marking” and people doesn’t even blink.

In a perfect world they should introduce frontal weak spots on all tanks (copula) and remove premium ammo, but it would make the game too difficult for the plebs, and ruin WG’s income, so it will never happen.

Gold spam is normal now, and that just tells you where the game are atm. I’m not innocent either, but I would rather play without it.

I myself are targeting tanks that has as high pen as possible to circumvent it as good as I can, but WG usually give those tanks other weaknesses, so yeah..

 


Edited by Oldtanker68, 30 January 2020 - 07:16 AM.


OllieCromwell #8 Posted 30 January 2020 - 07:51 AM

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The gold-spam was ridiculous last night ... I was platooning with a friend who is just getting up to his first Tier VIII tanks.

 

Due to (platoon) MM we got into a lot of Tier IX and X battles and, oh my god, the 'skill' levels where ridiculous ...

It was real fun having to fight T110E3/4's, Super Conq's, 430U's etc spamming gold and shooting straight thru your gun mantle the moment you tried to get a shot in, instead of camping around a corner. 

 

The 10 reports for 'unsportsmanlike conduct' didn't last long ... 



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View PostOllieCromwell, on 30 January 2020 - 09:51 AM, said:

The gold-spam was ridiculous last night ... I was platooning with a friend who is just getting up to his first Tier VIII tanks.

 

Due to (platoon) MM we got into a lot of Tier IX and X battles and, oh my god, the 'skill' levels where ridiculous ...

It was real fun having to fight T110E3/4's, Super Conq's, 430U's etc spamming gold and shooting straight thru your gun mantle the moment you tried to get a shot in, instead of camping around a corner. 

 

The 10 reports for 'unsportsmanlike conduct' didn't last long ... 

 

And this is perfect reason whyt unsportsmanlike reports wont do anything anymore.

But hey if it makes you feel better keep reporting :D



Cobra6 #10 Posted 30 January 2020 - 08:20 AM

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Gold ammo is good for the game and totally doesn't break armor efficiency or decrease the need for skill.........honest.....

 

View PostIntruderFI, on 30 January 2020 - 07:05 AM, said:

 

And this is perfect reason whyt unsportsmanlike reports wont do anything anymore.

But hey if it makes you feel better keep reporting :D


I report anyone in a top tier tank doing 0 damage for botting, standard. If you can't even do *ONE* shot of damage in a bad match, you have no business playing anything over tier 5.

 

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Edited by Cobra6, 30 January 2020 - 08:22 AM.


Jauhesammutin #11 Posted 30 January 2020 - 08:24 AM

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View PostMakroros_The_Arty_Magnet, on 29 January 2020 - 08:14 PM, said:

I was getting b*slapped through the mantlet like it was Papal State's brothel XIII'th century. In KV-3, as I wrote, NOT some Borsig.

Then get some skills and smack them back.



tajj7 #12 Posted 30 January 2020 - 12:11 PM

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The KV-3 gun mantlet and turret front is 130mm thick, tier 5s can go through a lot of it. The difference between what the APCR can go through and the AP can go through is marginal, 10-15% more shots might bounce if you are lucky.

 

I played that tank like it has no armour, because pretty much it does not, you just have to trade effectively, hope for the odd auto-bounce and use you high HP/Alpha/DPM combo. 


Edited by tajj7, 30 January 2020 - 12:12 PM.


TungstenHitman #13 Posted 30 January 2020 - 12:19 PM

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View PostMakroros_The_Arty_Magnet, on 29 January 2020 - 07:04 PM, said:


Also, Am I also supposed to play gold exclusivly and just earn the extra money by playing premium tanks with premium time I have? 

 

You got it!

 



Inappropriate_noob #14 Posted 30 January 2020 - 01:36 PM

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View PostMakroros_The_Arty_Magnet, on 29 January 2020 - 08:04 PM, said:

So today I thought I'd start my grind on the double barreled tank.
Several games in, I must say I've seen multiple KV-3's often in enemy team. I was loading standard rounds, cause I was taught to do so. So I poke out with my turret at beginning of games, each time to be met with a 400 APCR from opposing KV-3. Cause it's just easy to go through the mantlet.
Now I'm playing different game.
So, WG, when are we expecting the damage nerf to those gold rounds?
Also, Am I also supposed to play gold exclusivly and just earn the extra money by playing premium tanks with premium time I have? How is that not pay to win? It ruined my today's games.

As you wee taught to, this is the mistake, the meta now is pure gold spam, the olden days of being pro, have long since gone, can't afford the gold uninstall



TomatoShooter #15 Posted 30 January 2020 - 01:50 PM

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View PostInappropriate_noob, on 30 January 2020 - 01:36 PM, said:

As you wee taught to, this is the mistake, the meta now is pure gold spam, the olden days of being pro, have long since gone, can't afford the gold uninstall

Bullcrap, I am doing fine without premium time and full gold, just 5-10 goldrounds per tank to deal with the OP armored vehicles if there is no possibility to avoid them unitll the end.



Bennyboymothman #16 Posted 30 January 2020 - 02:26 PM

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Never go front out at an angle to trade. Always reverse sidescrape. The KV-3 Will absorb a lot of shots in it's tracks and bounce on the sides.

LethalWalou #17 Posted 30 January 2020 - 02:36 PM

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View PostCobra6, on 30 January 2020 - 07:20 AM, said:

I report anyone in a top tier tank doing 0 damage for botting, standard.

 

And here is the reason why in game reporting is inefficient nowadays. Well this, and UC reports for gold spam or arty shooting them... :facepalm: Thx



Makroros_The_Arty_Magnet #18 Posted 30 January 2020 - 03:47 PM

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View PostJauhesammutin, on 30 January 2020 - 07:24 AM, said:

Then get some skills and smack them back.


"skills"? i was perfectly hull down in normal good heavy position, nevermind, tanks of enemies derping like morons uphill (with bad gun depression of KV-3's), that CLEARLY had "skill"by playing that way just "skilled"through my mantlet.

tell me more about skill



LethalWalou #19 Posted 30 January 2020 - 03:56 PM

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View PostMakroros_The_Arty_Magnet, on 30 January 2020 - 02:47 PM, said:

 i was perfectly hull down in normal good heavy position

 

Perfectly? Also what ''normal good heavy postion''?

KV-3 can pen itself on the turret front with standard ammo anyways, even when hull down. Can you give the replay too, maybe we can find something we can help on. Mainly to say; in a tank that isn't a hull down tank, you shouldn't sit in front of enemies getting shot at. In a S Conq it can work but in a KV-3, a tank that has areas of 150-160mm effective armor on the turret front, it's not going to work unless you're facing lower tiers.



MeNoobTank #20 Posted 30 January 2020 - 03:56 PM

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But it doesn't matter if it was gold ammo or not. KV-3 can pen itself in the mantlet with standard ammo.




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