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Tanks that really do need need some Dev love?


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RockyRoller #1 Posted 29 January 2020 - 10:19 PM

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I been playing the Toldi III i a few battles against its own tier 3 and 4s, and it hasn't been able to penetrate a single tank even with gold even at close range. The other tanks to rub salt in the wound fire faster, so either this is a tank to avoid playing or it needs a boost to be competitive.

Spurtung #2 Posted 30 January 2020 - 06:57 AM

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"I agree, this tier 3 premium tank they gave away for free definitely needs to be competitive." - said no [edited]body.



TankkiPoju #3 Posted 30 January 2020 - 07:15 AM

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Gardar7 #4 Posted 30 January 2020 - 08:25 AM

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Turán needs a buff for amount of ammo. The other Hungarian tank, Toldi is alright I think. I would like to see a whole Hungarian tech tree in the game though, but I doubt that WG will ever introduce it. 

 

There are a lot of powercreeped tanks in the game though, just to mention some: 121, 113, T110E5, E100, IS-4, T-62A, PZVII at tier 10. There are a lot of useless tanks also at lower tiers, at the mentioned tier 3 Type 91 is in a worse situation than Toldi in my opinion. But we could continue the (long) line of powercreeped tanks. 



Hamsterkicker #5 Posted 30 January 2020 - 11:23 AM

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In the current meta and especially in Tier X grand battles and since the introduction of the WV a lot of tanks simply need more ammo..

Edited by Hamsterkicker, 30 January 2020 - 11:25 AM.


kaneloon #6 Posted 30 January 2020 - 11:32 AM

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Yeah the BT7-Art needs a better rof :)

Jethro_Grey #7 Posted 30 January 2020 - 02:54 PM

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Panzer II J Needs a buff, since there are now tanks that can hurt it. ^^

 

AMX ELC bis is certainly a candidate for a buff tho. 



Enherjaren #8 Posted 30 January 2020 - 03:06 PM

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Every arty.
Especially Leffe and m44! Those arties have been left behind. Leffe needs faster reload, better view range and teleportation.

Edited by Enherjaren, 30 January 2020 - 03:10 PM.


NekoPuffer_PPP #9 Posted 30 January 2020 - 03:07 PM

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You can hate me for it, but I think the T92 (the arty) needs a better engine...

 

It's the slowest of all the tier 10 arty, I mean, it uses a tier 6 engine...moving/relocating is a pain. You're forced to accept your fate if the enemy wins a flank, because you just can't run away, even if you see it fall in time. The worst is when your team leaves that one flank empty.

 

It just feels weird after playing the artys leading to it, which all boast decent mobility, with the M53/M55's mobility being excellent.



Enherjaren #10 Posted 30 January 2020 - 03:11 PM

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View PostNekoPuffer_PPP, on 30 January 2020 - 03:07 PM, said:

You can hate me for it, but I think the T92 (the arty) needs a better engine...

 

It's the slowest of all the tier 10 arty, I mean, it uses a tier 6 engine...moving/relocating is a pain. You're forced to accept your fate if the enemy wins a flank, because you just can't run away, even if you see it fall in time. The worst is when your team leaves that one flank empty.

 

It just feels weird after playing the artys leading to it, which all boast decent mobility, with the M53/M55's mobility being excellent.


In all honestly T92, 261 and BC 58 is pretty crap right now...


Edited by Enherjaren, 30 January 2020 - 03:11 PM.


Xandania #11 Posted 30 January 2020 - 04:17 PM

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View PostTankkiPoju, on 30 January 2020 - 06:15 AM, said:

"I am trying to seal club it's not working."




NekoPuffer_PPP #12 Posted 30 January 2020 - 04:51 PM

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View PostXandania, on 30 January 2020 - 04:17 PM, said:


 

In Soviet Russia...



24doom24 #13 Posted 30 January 2020 - 05:06 PM

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High tier french tds (especially the 155) need something. They are just so sub par compared to everything else.

Balc0ra #14 Posted 30 January 2020 - 05:25 PM

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View PostSpurtung, on 30 January 2020 - 06:57 AM, said:

"I agree, this tier 3 premium tank they gave away for free definitely needs to be competitive." - said no [edited]body.

 

To be fair... WG at one point did say tier III was broken. As it's the only tier where most tanks on the same class and caliber have over 2x more DPM vs them. That's a fairly big gap.

 

View PostGardar7, on 30 January 2020 - 08:25 AM, said:

Turán needs a buff for amount of ammo. The other Hungarian tank, Toldi is alright I think. I would like to see a whole Hungarian tech tree in the game though, but I doubt that WG will ever introduce it.

 

I never got why WG thought ammo count was a valid balance aspect. Tho that said... I've not run out of ammo on the Turan so much it's a major issue. Then again, I hardly blind fire etc on it vs others tho due to it.



hellhound6 #15 Posted 30 January 2020 - 05:38 PM

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Don't forget Chinese mediums

8 tier med with 181 penetration and 250 dmg in tier 10 mm

 



RockyRoller #16 Posted 30 January 2020 - 05:57 PM

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View PostTankkiPoju, on 30 January 2020 - 06:15 AM, said:

"I am trying to seal club it's not working."

 

Your attempted sarcasm is far removed from a valid self interest I might have, which if I own up was why I'm playing it. Like many other Premium low tiers when getting the Toldi it came with x5 bonus if you get in the top 10 of a battle victory. Hard to complete those when its in the bottom 11+ all the time but this just adds to it being a blooming awful tank that needs some special love.

 

As a tank it seems to wish to be a passive scout that mustn't shoot or be seen to survive any encounter. How would you buff that?



TheDrownedApe #17 Posted 30 January 2020 - 06:10 PM

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View PostRockyRoller, on 30 January 2020 - 04:57 PM, said:

 

Hard to complete those when its in the bottom 11+ all the time but this just adds to it being a blooming awful tank that needs some special love.

 

As a tank it seems to wish to be a passive scout that mustn't shoot or be seen to survive any encounter. How would you buff that?

 

And why is it always in the bottom 11 when you play it? 



Makroros_The_Arty_Magnet #18 Posted 30 January 2020 - 07:44 PM

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RHM Panzerwagen needs to stick to 1 out of 4 positions. Currently its 25% whether its on its tracks, any of 2 sides, or upside down.

Angelus1991ster #19 Posted 15 February 2020 - 01:49 PM

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1. The Toldi III need reload time buff. 3,75 sec reduced to 2,2 sec - as the console version Toldi III

2. The Turan III PT need bigger ammo capacity. 32 pcs increased to 48 pcs - as the console version Turan III PT.


 

That's enough, don't need more balance. Please Wargaming, just do it.:)



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Tiger 1 and 2, make them a tier lower respectively, that would be great, TIA wargaming. 




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