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Poll: AMX 30/30B or Leopard 1 (28 members have cast votes)

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Which one you enjoy more?

  1. AMX 30p (4 votes [14.29%])

    Percentage of vote: 14.29%

  2. Leopard 1 (24 votes [85.71%])

    Percentage of vote: 85.71%

  3. AMX 30B (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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saurilian #1 Posted 30 January 2020 - 10:44 AM

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Hey. I currently wonder if there is any particular reason for me to pick up the Leopard 1. I'm honestly not a tank collector and I don't want to spend time grinding something I'll probably not play much because it's a similar tank to something else. I know Leopard has been buffed and has this god like gun but the thing is that I already own the AMX 30 & Obj. 140 (soon STB-1) and love them with all my heart. I'm more of brawler/flanker medium/close range righter, I don't fight on long range at all except if I play the SU130PM. I enjoy versatility more than exceptional traits and I'm not sure if lack of armor in Leopard 1 will fit with my playstyle. What do you think? Am I wrong about Leopard 1? Should I get it? 

Edited by saurilian, 30 January 2020 - 10:45 AM.


HerrWizo #2 Posted 30 January 2020 - 10:51 AM

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Leopard 1 is quite nice tank, but forget about brawling and medium/close range fights. Virtually without armor, so best played as a pure sniper for the most part, preferably beyond 445m view range. Hugely map-dependant, performs way better on open maps, of course...

Ancybot #3 Posted 30 January 2020 - 10:52 AM

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Leopard1 is more like mobile TD - it fits more to playstyle like skorpion g has. You sit in back, but when its needed you go into close range. Still, you feel more comfortable at distance

Leopard1 is used as replacement of strv 103 in agressive/fast tactics in CW 

For close range stb-1 and soviets are way to go - these are also used in CW

AMX is totally forgotten

Edited by Ancybot, 30 January 2020 - 10:56 AM.


TungstenHitman #4 Posted 30 January 2020 - 10:53 AM

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Only have the T9 versions but Leopard is more fun and I'd imagine that's true of the T10 even more so since the T10 AMX doesn't change all that much from the T9 version. Also, the German options were all buffed there recently so they are now reliably very accurate and bang harder too with big standard pen too as the cherry on top which means you don't have to dab that 2 key very often and with ammo re-balancing coming down the tracks will be the more meta viable tank not just now but in the future meta too. 

Edited by TungstenHitman, 30 January 2020 - 12:24 PM.


tumppi776 #5 Posted 30 January 2020 - 10:56 AM

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Leo 1 - is the bestest of the best

JocMeister #6 Posted 30 January 2020 - 11:07 AM

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None of them are very useful. AMX 30 burn almost every battle and the gun is trollish as hell. Leos are mobile TDs with very low carry potential and isn´t that much fun to play.

saurilian #7 Posted 30 January 2020 - 11:14 AM

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View PostJocMeister, on 30 January 2020 - 11:07 AM, said:

None of them are very useful. AMX 30 burn almost every battle and the gun is trollish as hell. Leos are mobile TDs with very low carry potential and isn´t that much fun to play.

 

What about Progetto 65? 



_GrooziN_ #8 Posted 30 January 2020 - 12:02 PM

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View Postsaurilian, on 30 January 2020 - 11:14 AM, said:

 

What about Progetto 65? 


Excellent tank, different playstyle from Leo and AMX. Between Leo and AMX, Leo is a better tank after buffs. A bit out of meta and current map rotation, but fun to play and strong if you can play it carefully. I played all 3 of them on a different account, Progetto is the strongest, but it all comes down to what you're looking for from your T10 tanks.



Stefan86s #9 Posted 30 January 2020 - 12:03 PM

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There are other better tanks, but out of these 3, tier per tier i would say 30p is the best. 

And between 30B and Leo I pick 30B: best dpm in his class (=k91), gun mantlet is trollish (people expect this to be paper, but it bounces sometimes), good gun handling (accuracy is meh, but acc is irrelevant as i miss fully aimed shots with the grille). I think 30B can be more influential than Leo because it's more of a close range figher; i even got some "High Caliber" in full t10 battles.



TungstenHitman #10 Posted 30 January 2020 - 12:40 PM

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View Postsaurilian, on 30 January 2020 - 10:14 AM, said:

 

What about Progetto 65? 

 

What about it? You have 1,440 alpha in a mag that just keeps reloading no matter how many shots you take. What's not to like about that? There's tanks less than 1,440 hp on a battlefield all the time. Light tanks, lower tier tanks, slightly damaged tanks, there's a LOT of tanks with hp that fall within that Progetto's mag damage range.    



saurilian #11 Posted 30 January 2020 - 01:53 PM

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View PostTungstenHitman, on 30 January 2020 - 12:40 PM, said:

 

What about it? You have 1,440 alpha in a mag that just keeps reloading no matter how many shots you take. What's not to like about that? There's tanks less than 1,440 hp on a battlefield all the time. Light tanks, lower tier tanks, slightly damaged tanks, there's a LOT of tanks with hp that fall within that Progetto's mag damage range.    

 

I heard alot of people complain about it having too long reload time. I own the 46 so I'm not very sure about the 65



Neil_DaGrassSmokingTyson #12 Posted 30 January 2020 - 02:45 PM

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That's not even a serious question, That comparison is like saying which is faster a wheelbarrow or a ferrari.

saurilian #13 Posted 30 January 2020 - 02:59 PM

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View PostSignal11th, on 30 January 2020 - 02:45 PM, said:

That's not even a serious question, That comparison is like saying which is faster a wheelbarrow or a ferrari.

 

It's a serious question. You need to read my comment to understand it



Neil_DaGrassSmokingTyson #14 Posted 30 January 2020 - 03:17 PM

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View Postsaurilian, on 30 January 2020 - 01:59 PM, said:

 

It's a serious question. You need to read my comment to understand it

If you want to brawl get the 430u that wins hands down, if you want medium and or sniping get the leo 1 or prog 65. From your comments I would suggest looking at the prog 65 it's a bit more forgiving.



saurilian #15 Posted 30 January 2020 - 03:27 PM

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View PostSignal11th, on 30 January 2020 - 03:17 PM, said:

If you want to brawl get the 430u that wins hands down, if you want medium and or sniping get the leo 1 or prog 65. From your comments I would suggest looking at the prog 65 it's a bit more forgiving.

 

Thank you



splash_time #16 Posted 30 January 2020 - 03:30 PM

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I have pro 65 and I love it. Also I have M60, the American Leo, it's nice to play with, from far and close distance. Yes M60 has a slightly better armour, but it still can be damaged by low tiers, so yeah. 

AMX? I like it TBH but in current meta? With that pen? It's not a good choice. Better to avoid it(for now).

 

Best thing will be STB 1 as you mentioned, you still play it's lower tiers ,STB is a total different story. :)

So it'll be more than enough for you. 



N3rv0u5_M1c0 #17 Posted 30 January 2020 - 03:33 PM

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View Postsaurilian, on 30 January 2020 - 01:53 PM, said:

 

I heard alot of people complain about it having too long reload time. I own the 46 so I'm not very sure about the 65


Tier for tier progetto 46 is better. It has ok reload time so you can enjoy you game. Progetto 65 has too long reload, you will find yourself many times reloading when you should shoot. and people often rush you coz they now that you have only one left in clip or none and that you will have to reload longer.. Dpm on progetto 65 is terible, like some tier 8 tanks. Of course when there is a slow battle when you have time to fully load then its great tank. Leo 1 is sniper, mediocre, leopard PTA tier for tier is better.



ProfessionalGoldSpammer #18 Posted 30 January 2020 - 03:47 PM

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Leo 1 is one of my favorite meds, it has great gun (0.26 accuracy), nice alpha and good camo rating. After the buffs it can even bounce a shot or two from the turret.

In general a good allrounder, but as one of the guys said it performs better on open maps. I strongly advice anyone who doesn't have the Leo to grind it up.


Edited by ProfessionalGoldSpammer, 30 January 2020 - 03:49 PM.


saurilian #19 Posted 30 January 2020 - 03:48 PM

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View Postsplash_time, on 30 January 2020 - 03:30 PM, said:

I have pro 65 and I love it. Also I have M60, the American Leo, it's nice to play with, from far and close distance. Yes M60 has a slightly better armour, but it still can be damaged by low tiers, so yeah. 

AMX? I like it TBH but in current meta? With that pen? It's not a good choice. Better to avoid it(for now).

 

Best thing will be STB 1 as you mentioned, you still play it's lower tiers ,STB is a total different story. :)

So it'll be more than enough for you. 

 

I need only 50k exp to STB-1 :B I'd love to get M60 too but I don't have enough bonds. I'm not getting Leopard 1 then. I'm don't like it


Edited by saurilian, 30 January 2020 - 03:50 PM.





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