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Panikovski #1 Posted 30 January 2020 - 10:31 PM

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Simply put, the difference in player quality between the teams is absurd, I rarely see a <50% WR player in Skill's team while I rarely see an >50% WR player in the other teams... is just no fun, lost like 2 games in 20, and, apparently, winning too much is stupid and boring as well..

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ihateclowns #2 Posted 30 January 2020 - 10:34 PM

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Dez Games teams consist of 7 WZ'S with no camo and a total of 4k games between them all and every school boy under the age of 12,  Skill4 teams consist of 7 279's and ultra hardcore 40 year old no lifers

x904402 #3 Posted 30 January 2020 - 10:39 PM

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No reward either.  It seems a lot of grinding for very few worthwhile prizes.  A camo style and maybe few days of premium for personal merit.    

the_nebuchadnezzar #4 Posted 30 January 2020 - 10:48 PM

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King Baboon is the BEST.

Spurtung #5 Posted 31 January 2020 - 05:11 AM

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View Postihateclowns, on 30 January 2020 - 09:34 PM, said:

Dez Games teams consist of 7 WZ'S with no camo and a total of 4k games between them all and every school boy under the age of 12,  Skill4 teams consist of 7 279's and ultra hardcore 40 year old no lifers

 

So...uh...you should have picked another team, is that it?



BierKanonier #6 Posted 31 January 2020 - 06:02 AM

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View Postihateclowns, on 30 January 2020 - 09:34 PM, said:

Dez Games teams consist of 7 WZ'S with no camo and a total of 4k games between them all and every school boy under the age of 12,  Skill4 teams consist of 7 279's and ultra hardcore 40 year old no lifers

wow, since when is camo on havies a must have?

 

push cap and try to win, there is no need for camo, great tactics or anything else and btw only idiots are shooting premium ammo in that mode



Jumping_Turtle #7 Posted 31 January 2020 - 08:47 AM

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Who cares. Only difference is that your commander might have less skills.

There is only one thing important and that is getting to level 10 and that is doable. Certainly with the boosters

Kissa_ei_kuulu_pakkaseen #8 Posted 31 January 2020 - 09:47 AM

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View PostJumping_Turtle, on 31 January 2020 - 09:47 AM, said:

Who cares. Only difference is that your commander might have less skills.

There is only one thing important and that is getting to level 10 and that is doable. Certainly with the boosters

I care about approx. 1,680,510 exp (from 0% to 100% of Fourth skill).

 

The difference is huge especially on tanks which has few crew members.



ihateclowns #9 Posted 31 January 2020 - 12:52 PM

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View PostSpurtung, on 31 January 2020 - 04:11 AM, said:

 

So...uh...you should have picked another team, is that it?

Yes



ValkyrionX_TV #10 Posted 31 January 2020 - 12:57 PM

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The players are free to decide the streamer they want, if on average the strongest players have chosen the skill team, you have to get used to it

 

 

 



ihateclowns #11 Posted 31 January 2020 - 12:57 PM

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It really is extremely unfair, when dez team goes up against skill team its an automatic loss, thats not an exaguration. Dez team for some reason has these players coming out of the woodwork all driving wz's and all have 1000 games played each, most are even less than that, ive seen some that only had 30+ games. 

Snake551 #12 Posted 31 January 2020 - 01:01 PM

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View PostJumping_Turtle, on 31 January 2020 - 07:47 AM, said:

Who cares. Only difference is that your commander might have less skills.

There is only one thing important and that is getting to level 10 and that is doable. Certainly with the boosters

having 0 perks and 5 perks makes huge difference

having 0 games on t10 prior to event vs someone with thousands + also makes huge difference.



Balc0ra #13 Posted 31 January 2020 - 01:05 PM

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View PostPanikovski, on 30 January 2020 - 10:31 PM, said:

Simply put, the difference in player quality between the teams is absurd, I rarely see a <50% WR player in Skill's team while I rarely see an >50% WR player in the other teams... is just no fun, lost like 2 games in 20, and, apparently, winning too much is stupid and boring as well..

 

Tbh, even if they just had average CC's or all the unicorn CC's. This would still happen. Most don't know either one of the 4. And thus one of them will get more of the "weekend warriors" as you are shown the event and how to select one when you first log on. And again.... it's not FL or ranked. Thus there are no "skilled based MM". As the cc's said. It's a mode for fun. If you don't have fun. Play randoms.

 

 



eldrak #14 Posted 31 January 2020 - 01:13 PM

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Trust me, there are a lot of players with 100-300 games total in Skills team too and players with winrates in the lower 40s. 

Zylon0 #15 Posted 31 January 2020 - 01:30 PM

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View PostPanikovski, on 30 January 2020 - 09:31 PM, said:

Simply put, the difference in player quality between the teams is absurd, I rarely see a <50% WR player in Skill's team while I rarely see an >50% WR player in the other teams... is just no fun, lost like 2 games in 20, and, apparently, winning too much is stupid and boring as well..

And this is why I use the anonimiser. Even if I'm a mediocre player.

I do not consent to you reading my stats and I do not want you to see the stats of other players either as it will break morale and leads to bullying other players.


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ProfessionalGoldSpammer #16 Posted 31 January 2020 - 02:00 PM

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View PostZylon0, on 31 January 2020 - 01:30 PM, said:

And this is why I use the anonimiser. Even if I'm a mediocre player.

I do not consent to you reading my stats and I do not want you to see the stats of other players either as it will break morale and leads to bullying other players.

I hope you understand that with the anonymizer it takes a good player about 5 sec. to understand what type of player you are.

Basically even with the Anonymizer on everyone knows what type of player you are, don't waste your time and try to improve your gameplay.

 


Edited by ProfessionalGoldSpammer, 31 January 2020 - 02:01 PM.


Zylon0 #17 Posted 31 January 2020 - 02:13 PM

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View PostProfessionalGoldSpammer, on 31 January 2020 - 01:00 PM, said:

I hope you understand that with the anonymizer it takes a good player about 5 sec. to understand what type of player you are.

Basically even with the Anonymizer on everyone knows what type of player you are, don't waste your time and try to improve your gameplay.

 

Your post made no sense, because you fail to recognize all the benefits of the anonimiser.



speedphlux #18 Posted 31 January 2020 - 02:20 PM

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Ehm, I'm part of Dez's team. Am I sub-50% sub-human lobotomy patient too ?

No. But a lot of people playing this game mode DO NOT understand what it's about. It's about Charlie Sheen ! WINNING !!! And maybe a little bit of Tiger blood.


Play to the objectives, stick to each other, LOOK AT THE MINIMAP !!!, protect your allies IF YOU CAN, don't be afraid to take one for the team, specially if you are not going to die from that one shot you might "eat" and so on. It's not difficult. Maybe few years experience in the ESL would do people a lot of good, but I don't think they can get it just like that.

 

Personal performance means NOTHING in this game mode. WINNING is EVERYTHING. Simple as that. When your Average Joe learns that and starts to accept that, then the game would start to become a lot better and you'll actually have fun in it. What also might help is people stop playing stupid tanks. Like Grille 15, JgPz E-100, Badger, T110E5, Rhm. Pz., 121 and arta to name a few. Arty might be limited to 1 per team, but that means that you have one less reactive gun in the battle that can't react to the situation quick enough, which results in a loss majority of the times. Hence - picking arty means you're putting your team at a disadvantage from the get-go. Other things like slow campy TDs fall into the same category. Weak tanks, like E5 & 121 are also disadvantageous to your team. You're much better off playing the rental 5A or 140, than pulling your team down by jerking around in crappy vehicles, some of which are frankly - not suited to be called "Tier X vehicles" anymore.

It's not that hard, but it's super frustrating, playing "for the team" and your team consists only of "individual", who for some reason, care about their damage and survival ... ?! Numerous games I've had people just wander off from the start of the battle alone on a flank, either get killed in a minute by a wolfpack of mediums, or don't encounter anybody and then be the last man standing alive accusing the rest of us of dying and throwing the game, while we were a gun short the whole time. YOU CAN'T FLANK IN A MAUS ON LAKEVILLE !!!



eldrak #19 Posted 31 January 2020 - 02:23 PM

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View PostZylon0, on 31 January 2020 - 01:13 PM, said:

Your post made no sense, because you fail to recognize all the benefits of the anonimiser.

I'm pretty sure most people are right clicking in result screen on their teammates that had questionable performance in last battle while waiting in que for their next one.

Anonymizer is irrelevant there.



xCleeoN #20 Posted 31 January 2020 - 02:59 PM

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The problem is that the big clans have said they support Skill4ltu, which are clans that have multiple fully occupied second and third clans. They are very well known and play at a very high level, so some of them ran after them because they thought you had to be first in the mode. If you take a look at Skill, you see an average CW Reward tank in every battle that only shoots Premium. The fact that almost all would like to be professionals at Skill means that the others don't have a chance. But do you have to be first? No, clans like Odem Mortis who said publicly that they support skill messed up the competition, I don't know whose idea it was, but his IQ is definitely in the negative. The event is all about fun, you want to have your favorite YouTuber as a commander, you don't have to be first, you get more perks for free, but if it's not your Favorite YouTuber you really screwed up. You can only be happy when you are at DezGames or Milan, because at least you still have a competition between the two teams. I'm really sorry for those who are on the team at Skill or AEG, whining some of Team Skill because it's not fun because they only win and with AEG it's the other way around. At Team Milan you have really bad teams from time to time, but in the rounds in which you have a reasonably good team, you just have to put on the carry pants and do something yourself. Is a really embarrassing action from the big clan, I mean how stupid can you be.


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