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ST-II, worst t10 heavy. Change my mind.

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HerrWizo #61 Posted 05 February 2020 - 09:53 AM

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View PostChristOfTheAbyss, on 05 February 2020 - 03:29 AM, said:


Already countered that claim by noting that Type 5 has better winrates than many heavies do. And those worse heavies than type 5 are better than ST-II, which makes Type 5 better too.

 

Worst T10 heavies are Type 5 and IS-4, hands down. Closely followed by E-100 (the only T10 I ever sold, even before playing 50 games in it). Replaced the latter with 60TP, never looked back. No comparison.



SirTogII #62 Posted 05 February 2020 - 03:32 PM

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Have only played it in Team Clash but it performs way better than expected there. Not OP in any way but able and fun to play (3-4k dmg in 7-7 not uncommon). Of course youre probably a higher skilled player than I am and the skill cap on the tank is lower than a mobile heavy like the 277, but imh it’s not bad at all. 

Blubba #63 Posted 05 February 2020 - 09:15 PM

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ST-II, worst t10 heavy. Change my mind.

 

 

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MightyBalls_2 #64 Posted 06 February 2020 - 09:53 AM

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View Postshikaka9, on 02 February 2020 - 09:41 AM, said:

all double barreled are 1 tier to high :)

 

I like the IS-2 and IS-3 versions. The weakest is the tier X which is stupid because the end game should always be the best, else why grind to it?



roboslash #65 Posted 06 February 2020 - 12:30 PM

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View PostMightyBalls_2, on 06 February 2020 - 09:53 AM, said:

 

I like the IS-2 and IS-3 versions. The weakest is the tier X which is stupid because the end game should always be the best, else why grind to it?

 Imo the IS-2-II feels incredibly weak. It basically has no armor except for the turret front. And the gun's penetration isn't exactly very good either.


Edited by roboslash, 06 February 2020 - 12:30 PM.


MightyBalls_2 #66 Posted 06 February 2020 - 01:22 PM

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View Postroboslash, on 06 February 2020 - 11:30 AM, said:

 Imo the IS-2-II feels incredibly weak. It basically has no armor except for the turret front. And the gun's penetration isn't exactly very good either.

 

The pen is great, it goes through any tier 8, most tier 9 tanks and you then have to dab the 2 key on a lot of tier X but that is the same for most tier 8 tanks.

 

Correct me if I am wrong but the IS2 which this tank is taken from has no armour also, so expect the same.

 

I am averaging 2100 damage and 500 assistance and I feel I am not playing this tank well, so for me I believe this tank is a decent tank and in better hands can be a great tank.



roboslash #67 Posted 16 February 2020 - 02:38 PM

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Just got to the ST-II and it does seem underwhelming. Paper armor, sluggish, bad traverse speeds.

Plus it has a bunch of top 30mm plates. Arty eats this thing. 

 

I get like 3 crew members killed every game due to HE spam either from arty or just large caliber guns.

 

This tank needs a slight buff IMO. Buff top plates to 40-45 mm, buff lower plate thickness slightly, turret traverse speed and it would be a decent tank.


Edited by roboslash, 16 February 2020 - 03:30 PM.


Skyline118 #68 Posted 26 March 2020 - 11:46 PM

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I like a lot IS-2-II and IS-3-II and i'm mad that ST-II is that bad. I played it only at test server but i'm not gonna buy it. This tank needs some love and get some buff imo.

_SpartanWarrior_ #69 Posted 27 March 2020 - 03:40 AM

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I might be wrong here,i read 20% of posts here (its TL;DR at 4am) and I can say that ST-II needs a LITTLE BIT OF LOVE TOUCH

Not gun handling,armor,camo(what?) or penetration,but a little bit more mobility. Especially its turret rotation speed. Its like driving a tier3 TD or Wolverine,but doing 880DMG,having more hp and armor and going into t10 matches.

 



Makroros_The_Arty_Magnet #70 Posted 27 March 2020 - 06:46 AM

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View PostChristOfTheAbyss, on 02 February 2020 - 10:26 AM, said:


Was more referencing the t8 and t9 there.

 

Also, check the mantlet weakspot on ST-II. No need for heat.


Do you expect another "no frontal weakspots" heavy tank? Just play Chrysler.
People rage at WG for bs op no weakspot tank and then they rage when WG creates tank with weakspots aswell.
I'm on the side of weakspot tanks.



leggasiini #71 Posted 27 March 2020 - 10:14 AM

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ST-II doesn't seem very good but I can't see it being worse than any of the tanks that are about the get buffed (IS-4, E5 and E 100), though those very likely will all be superior to it after the buffs. It's probably better than the AMX M4 54, Type 5 and FV 215b as well, but all of those need changes as well.

 

It's still a new tank, give it a bit more time but right now it's not looking very strong. Need to get it myself first to see.


Edited by leggasiini, 27 March 2020 - 10:15 AM.


kutaykendirli1 #72 Posted 04 August 2020 - 02:31 PM

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slow shell speed with 970 meters per second it doesnt have apcr to make it up bad gun handling decent accuracy and has bad dpm yes you can deal 880 with a single blow but you would decrease your dpm even more with penalty and the littlest mistake would ruin your game unusuable as an autoloader soo friggin slow you cant change positions in mid battle has a huge profile has a huge weakpoint at hull lower plate is trash and has a huge weakpoint at turret but its well armored you would only pen it with gold if you are not a td that has a scary amount of standard pen tank doesnt have a place in wot in its current place at the wot s current beta you would enjoy hitting over 1000 but mostly you will suffer go get a 60tp or obj 705a instead if you want to hit hard those will pay you better not even mentioning the turret rotation speed earth turns faster than it 

Edited by kutaykendirli1, 04 August 2020 - 02:35 PM.


StronkiTonki #73 Posted 04 August 2020 - 07:15 PM

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I enjoyed all the double barreled tanks until tier 10. The ST-II just did not work for me. Maybe it's just the way how you're not often able to trade on tier 10 simply because of the different nature that battles progress.





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