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Robbie_T #41 Posted 06 February 2020 - 03:49 PM

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View PostEvilier_than_Skeletor, on 06 February 2020 - 01:57 PM, said:

Black market also brings out all the noobs? Then there's obv. events, marathons, any 2x-5x, kids during the day, not to mention the inferno  called weekends. Is there any point when the MM is normal?

yes normal days without anything special between 17.00 and 23.00



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View Postdognosh, on 06 February 2020 - 10:56 AM, said:

Ignorance is bliss :)

As long as you're happy being that way!



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View Postrageman4u, on 06 February 2020 - 02:21 AM, said:

 I am always the best performing player in my team. With losing streaks. 

No you are not, Just checked the 5 most recent replays on wotreplays which you did not upload yourself: 

 

http://wotreplays.eu/site/5157030#teams ; lost that game, 7th in dmg and xp.

http://wotreplays.eu/site/5123492#teams ; you won that one despite your 1 shot of dmg in the Skoda T 50.

http://wotreplays.eu/site/5101728#teams ; you lost that one, 3th in damage.

http://wotreplays.eu/site/5086303#teams ; you won that one with a "decent" game, 4th in damage.

http://wotreplays.eu/site/5079721#teams ; lost that one too, 4th in dmg despite driving a BC25t in a Tier 8 game.

 

Lesson: when you claim something make sure it can not be fact checked or just dont lie....

 



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View PostAyman996, on 05 February 2020 - 08:13 PM, said:

wargaming i swear this is gonna be my last time playing your retarded game ! why ? i'm just fed up with your BS yesterday i played the majority of my games are lost and today morning i said to myself this is gonna be a good fresh day i started playing and the same BS again majority of my games are lost ! Why ?? what have i done to you ?? i played 35 games 23 lost why ?? no matter how hard i try it's doesn't work either 15-4 or 4-15 i'm done with this retarded game that's it i can't play anymore i don't enjoy this stupid game anymore ! more than 1 year of service i loved the game when i started it there was no losing streaks no 15-4 all the time ! i love the game but i will delete it next week ! i just feel like the game hates me so damn hard ! always putting me in the losing team i'm not a bad player i know how to play my tanks but nothing works ! good luck i'm out ! 

 

No one gets more frustrated than me on losing streaks. I moan, I shout, I've broken mice and monitors.   Best to walk away for a bit.  And we know you'll play again anyway so when people say they are quitting, they rarely mean it.

 

I have a 6 game lose limit before I walk away now, 3 game lose limit per tank. (until recently i expanded this to 9 game lose limit as I kept saying one more game). Playing while triggered doesnt help either.

 

My lost streak is 21 games, people here say thats statistically not possible, but fk them. i was there.



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View PostBalc0ra, on 06 February 2020 - 02:09 PM, said:

 

Well.. to be fair. Depending on the streak. Can you honestly blame your team 100% of the time? Sure you can lose some games regardless of what you do. But each game? Do you use XVM since you know who is bad or not? Does it impact your decisions when you see it? Change to a more passive style? Or do you still play the same? As if it's the first one... try vanilla for a bit. As you only need one gun at a flank at times to do something right for it to push past. Just as you only need one gun to do something wrong to collapse. Not used XVM for ages, and I notice a difference. 

Yes absolutely i don't blame the teams for my loses but when i have losing streak i always blame my team because i always get on top on damage and EXP all going to one flank and dying and i'm not using toxic XVM i check the post stats after each game and i see a lot of 46% +- players on my team and a lot of decent players on the enemy team so yeah :( 

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View PostCeeb, on 06 February 2020 - 04:23 PM, said:

 

No one gets more frustrated than me on losing streaks. I moan, I shout, I've broken mice and monitors.   Best to walk away for a bit.  And we know you'll play again anyway so when people say they are quitting, they rarely mean it.

 

I have a 6 game lose limit before I walk away now, 3 game lose limit per tank. (until recently i expanded this to 9 game lose limit as I kept saying one more game). Playing while triggered doesnt help either.

 

My lost streak is 21 games, people here say thats statistically not possible, but fk them. i was there.

Yeah i totally believe you my friend i had 23 games lose yesterday and i almost broke my monitor with my fist but i Pressed Alt+F4 AND WALKED AWAY FOR 2 hours and tried again but nothing worked until this morning magically everything is back to normal 



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View PostAyman996, on 06 February 2020 - 04:30 PM, said:

... but when i have losing streak i always blame my team because i always get on top on damage and EXP ....

Not always: 

http://wotreplays.eu/site/4384421#teams ; 5th in dmg and XP.

http://wotreplays.eu/site/5152998#teams  ; 11th in dmg, 5th in XP

http://wotreplays.eu/site/5049661#teams  ; 5th in dmg, 7th in XP

http://wotreplays.eu/site/5043959#teams  ; OK this one you were right, top dmg and XP in the losing team. Congrats we all been there,



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View PostBravelyRanAway, on 06 February 2020 - 02:58 PM, said:

As long as you're happy being that way!

Hmmm , I detect <censored by myself> too, in your posts..... :)

You remind me of the players who die and then spam chat blaming everyone else.

Feel free to reply with a winning post, I won't reply back.



malairt #48 Posted 06 February 2020 - 04:59 PM

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I reached the dizzy heights of 50.1% about 3 weeks ago - aaaand it's been downhill ever since to 50.03%.

7 basis points off.

It happens!

I'm not playing any differently, it's just a random run of bad luck.  I hope  :)



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View PostAyman996, on 05 February 2020 - 02:30 PM, said:

finally someone that has the same issue like me Oh my god thank you my friend ! exactly a lot of 46% donkeys in just my team and the enemy team has a lot of 51% 53% players !

Sounds to me like match making needs to be balanced by skill, which it currently is not. This has been a suggestion for so long. The real question is why does WG refuse to do skill based MM while keeping their +2 -2, weight of tank, type of tank  and size of gun mm parameters.

One can speculate the answer to that until the cows come home.



Ice7_4 #50 Posted 06 February 2020 - 07:33 PM

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Play for fun. Forget 'must to win' factor. 

 

I found new fun in game when i finally gave up win must. Game is too f- up to have equal teams. Unequal tanks, gold ammo and so on. This does not mean i don't try to win, just that i am not obsessed about it. No need to curse (that much), ping map like grazy or talk bs in chat(like mentally 12 year old). If you do that maybe it is time to chance attitude or just leave game. Why torture yourself with game that makes you mad and immature?

 

I probably play little worse than used to, but have more fun. Aint that the main reason one should play the game? If winning is only reason, then try clan wars or something. Don't come to random battles and cry about everything. Random battles has random players. Good and bad. If you can't handle bad players, dont enter random battles.

 

So, why not keep a break? Few months and come back? Maybe with new eyes and goals. 



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And yesterday I had some 40 games and probably lost 4 of those. Managed to do 4 missions with out even trying and actually had monster game in Jgpz e100. Sooo yeah... by now you would know that the game is very streaky.

A good player knows when to quit for the day mate. :)

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Yea, the greatest frustation about this game is your own teammates (besides the tedius gameplay itself).

Skillbased mm  is something I would love to see in this game. 

 



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View PostAyman996, on 06 February 2020 - 03:30 PM, said:

Yes absolutely i don't blame the teams for my loses but when i have losing streak i always blame my team because i always get on top on damage and EXP all going to one flank and dying and i'm not using toxic XVM i check the post stats after each game and i see a lot of 46% +- players on my team and a lot of decent players on the enemy team so yeah :( 

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Yeah i totally believe you my friend i had 23 games lose yesterday and i almost broke my monitor with my fist but i Pressed Alt+F4 AND WALKED AWAY FOR 2 hours and tried again but nothing worked until this morning magically everything is back to normal 

 

Congrats at least for hanging on in your thread.  One reason why these tend to get rough handling is that OP usually posts a whine on the OMG WG have it in for me topic and is never seen or heard from again.

 

Streaks are common.  With your 10K battles and 50% win rate you have a 75% chance of getting a losing (or winning) streak of 12 solid losses (or wins) in a row.  See https://www.sportsbookreview.com/picks/tools/streak-calculator/

 

If you look up your tanks you will find some in which you do better, others in which you do worse.  I am not a good player but I have some in which I can guarantee 60% wins over the long run.  If I am not doing well, these will at least ameliorate the pain.

 

And the other great idea, as others have said, is that if you are doing badly and getting annoyed, just walk away for the day, as it won't get any better while you are annoyed.



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View PostBulldog_Drummond, on 06 February 2020 - 09:02 PM, said:

 

Congrats at least for hanging on in your thread.  One reason why these tend to get rough handling is that OP usually posts a whine on the OMG WG have it in for me topic and is never seen or heard from again.

 

Streaks are common.  With your 10K battles and 50% win rate you have a 75% chance of getting a losing (or winning) streak of 12 solid losses (or wins) in a row.  See https://www.sportsbookreview.com/picks/tools/streak-calculator/

 

If you look up your tanks you will find some in which you do better, others in which you do worse.  I am not a good player but I have some in which I can guarantee 60% wins over the long run.  If I am not doing well, these will at least ameliorate the pain.

 

And the other great idea, as others have said, is that if you are doing badly and getting annoyed, just walk away for the day, as it won't get any better while you are annoyed.

thank you for that link my friend ! no i'm not like those guys i stick to my ground :) well yeah i just got really mad but i did learned that it's a part of the game no matter what you do you can't change it it will happen so i did accept that and today i had a lot of fun even when losing some games i did play 41 games and lost 20 so that is not bad 50% WR :) 

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View PostIce7_4, on 06 February 2020 - 07:33 PM, said:

Play for fun. Forget 'must to win' factor. 

 

I found new fun in game when i finally gave up win must. Game is too f- up to have equal teams. Unequal tanks, gold ammo and so on. This does not mean i don't try to win, just that i am not obsessed about it. No need to curse (that much), ping map like grazy or talk bs in chat(like mentally 12 year old). If you do that maybe it is time to chance attitude or just leave game. Why torture yourself with game that makes you mad and immature?

 

I probably play little worse than used to, but have more fun. Aint that the main reason one should play the game? If winning is only reason, then try clan wars or something. Don't come to random battles and cry about everything. Random battles has random players. Good and bad. If you can't handle bad players, dont enter random battles.

 

So, why not keep a break? Few months and come back? Maybe with new eyes and goals. 

Yeah that is the whole idea to have fun in game ! i did accept the fact that losing streaks are a part of the game and now i'm having fun even when losing it's Okee :) i learned something and i'm trying to improve myself even more to be better player than i am right now ! thank you 



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So there were no losing streaks in the past? This is something new in WoT? :D

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View PostBulldog_Drummond, on 06 February 2020 - 09:02 PM, said:

 

Congrats at least for hanging on in your thread.  One reason why these tend to get rough handling is that OP usually posts a whine on the OMG WG have it in for me topic and is never seen or heard from again.

 

Streaks are common.  With your 10K battles and 50% win rate you have a 75% chance of getting a losing (or winning) streak of 12 solid losses (or wins) in a row.  See https://www.sportsbookreview.com/picks/tools/streak-calculator/

 

If you look up your tanks you will find some in which you do better, others in which you do worse.  I am not a good player but I have some in which I can guarantee 60% wins over the long run.  If I am not doing well, these will at least ameliorate the pain.

 

And the other great idea, as others have said, is that if you are doing badly and getting annoyed, just walk away for the day, as it won't get any better while you are annoyed.

can you tell me how to use that streak calculator because i don't know how to do it ?

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View PostEchotun, on 06 February 2020 - 11:11 PM, said:

So there were no losing streaks in the past? This is something new in WoT? :D

yes when i was playing my first 5000 games i didn't get the losing streaks than i'm getting now i was enjoying my game wining 3 games in row losing 2 in a row but now it's wining 1 game and losing 6 in a row ! :( that's what i meant to say but it's all good now i learned from the awesome community here that is it a part of the game and now i'm playing so much better and having fun :) 



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View PostAyman996, on 06 February 2020 - 10:12 PM, said:

can you tell me how to use that streak calculator because i don't know how to do it ?

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yes when i was playing my first 5000 games i didn't get the losing streaks than i'm getting now i was enjoying my game wining 3 games in row losing 2 in a row but now it's wining 1 game and losing 6 in a row ! :( that's what i meant to say but it's all good now i learned from the awesome community here that is it a part of the game and now i'm playing so much better and having fun :) 

 

What is does is to take the length of the series (ie how many games you have played)

Add in the loss probability, in your case 0.5

And the length of the streak (let's say 12)

And it will tell you how likely that streak was over your 10K games

Most players who post here complaining about eg 20 lost games in a row are either lying (because we can see their stats) or had it coming as a probable event

 



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View PostBulldog_Drummond, on 06 February 2020 - 11:29 PM, said:

 

What is does is to take the length of the series (ie how many games you have played)

Add in the loss probability, in your case 0.5

And the length of the streak (let's say 12)

And it will tell you how likely that streak was over your 10K games

Most players who post here complaining about eg 20 lost games in a row are either lying (because we can see their stats) or had it coming as a probable event

 


From what Ive experienced, its usually lies and lies. Sure theyve had a bad session, but every time i check wotlabs its just not true. 



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View PostBulldog_Drummond, on 06 February 2020 - 11:29 PM, said:

 

What is does is to take the length of the series (ie how many games you have played)

Add in the loss probability, in your case 0.5

And the length of the streak (let's say 12)

And it will tell you how likely that streak was over your 10K games

Most players who post here complaining about eg 20 lost games in a row are either lying (because we can see their stats) or had it coming as a probable event

 

true i had 6 and 8 loses in a row mostly 6 but never 20 that's crazy :( thank you for the reply much appreciated :)  


Edited by Ayman996, 06 February 2020 - 11:39 PM.


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View PostAyman996, on 06 February 2020 - 10:37 PM, said:

true i had 6 and 8 loses in a row mostly 6 but never 20 that's crazy :( thank you for the reply much appreciated :)  

 

No problem

The streak calculator is very handy because it is the sort of calculation which seems quite easy but is in fact fiendishly difficult.

I stumbled across it some years ago and it is brilliant for putting to bed daft claims

With the number of games I have played (including old accounts) I have a 35% chance of a streak of 15 consecutive losses, but if I were a 47% win rate player that would be a 90% chance

What it demonstrates is that those "impossible" losing streaks are entirely normal


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