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Ayman996 #61 Posted 06 February 2020 - 11:51 PM

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View PostBulldog_Drummond, on 06 February 2020 - 11:47 PM, said:

 

No problem

The streak calculator is very handy because it is the sort of calculation which seems quite easy but is in fact fiendishly difficult.

I stumbled across it some years ago and it is brilliant for putting to bed daft claims

With the number of games I have played (including old accounts) I have a 35% chance of a streak of 15 consecutive losses, but if I were a 47% win rate player that would be a 90% chance

What it demonstrates is that those "impossible" losing streaks are entirely normal

i'm still struggling to figure out how to use The streak calculator :) it's hard to use but it's good as you said it will help a lot :)



Echotun #62 Posted 07 February 2020 - 07:28 AM

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View PostAyman996, on 06 February 2020 - 11:51 PM, said:

i'm still struggling to figure out how to use The streak calculator :) it's hard to use but it's good as you said it will help a lot :)


As far as WoT is concerned it will actually not help at all. 
 

Play better, win more. Period. 
 

Dont blame WG for your losses. How likely or unlikely a streak is to happen is completely irrelevant after the fact. 



Cregan37 #63 Posted 07 February 2020 - 10:01 AM

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View PostBulldog_Drummond, on 05 February 2020 - 08:28 PM, said:

 

Equally traditionally we can also say that OP's claim of played 35 lost 23 in a day doesn't seem very exceptional for a player with a 50% win rate overall.

I'm impressed though by OP managing to play 58 games on a work/school day

Maybe he had flu



Assuming consistent 50% play, losing 23 of 35 is a chance of 0,045. Which actually is less than a lot of significance-levels used in quality control.

 

Most likely OP was having bad luck, but most likely also did it to himself by getting frustrated and ruching his later games.



Valdas_34 #64 Posted 07 February 2020 - 10:58 AM

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yeah MM should be more balanced...

usually score is (0-5)-15 or 15-(0-5) like 90% of the games, and its every day the same, that's just not normal

plz do something about that.

thx



HassenderZerhacker #65 Posted 07 February 2020 - 11:01 AM

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View PostAyman996, on 05 February 2020 - 09:13 PM, said:

wargaming i swear this is gonna be my last time playing your retarded game ! why ? i'm just fed up with your BS yesterday i played the majority of my games are lost and today morning i said to myself this is gonna be a good fresh day i started playing and the same BS again majority of my games are lost ! Why ?? what have i done to you ?? i played 35 games 23 lost why ?? no matter how hard i try it's doesn't work either 15-4 or 4-15 i'm done with this retarded game that's it i can't play anymore i don't enjoy this stupid game anymore ! more than 1 year of service i loved the game when i started it there was no losing streaks no 15-4 all the time ! i love the game but i will delete it next week ! i just feel like the game hates me so damn hard ! always putting me in the losing team i'm not a bad player i know how to play my tanks but nothing works ! good luck i'm out ! 

 

I feel with you and I advise you to go through with your idea of stopping to play.

life feels so much better without WoT.



killer999death #66 Posted 07 February 2020 - 01:00 PM

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People are going to say ''There is one constant in those losing streaks'' implying YOU are the cause of those loses but they fail to realize it's a 15vs15 format meaning the other constant is playing with 14 randoms of which 10 do nothing but find out W key moves the tank forwards.



Sometimes you lose 20 battles in a row. Sometimes you win 20 in a row even when you do nothing. It's crappy.

jabster #67 Posted 07 February 2020 - 01:05 PM

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View Postkiller999death, on 07 February 2020 - 12:00 PM, said:

People are going to say ''There is one constant in those losing streaks'' implying YOU are the cause of those loses but they fail to realize it's a 15vs15 format meaning the other constant is playing with 14 randoms of which 10 do nothing but find out W key moves the tank forwards.



Sometimes you lose 20 battles in a row. Sometimes you win 20 in a row even when you do nothing. It's crappy.


And your proposed solution to this is what exactly?



killer999death #68 Posted 07 February 2020 - 01:14 PM

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View Postjabster, on 07 February 2020 - 01:05 PM, said:


And your proposed solution to this is what exactly?



To not care about winning or losing but just doing damage or in general not performing like a bot.

You can't carry a team to victory if it does not want to win so all you do is get frustrated.



jabster #69 Posted 07 February 2020 - 01:21 PM

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View Postkiller999death, on 07 February 2020 - 12:14 PM, said:



To not care about winning or losing but just doing damage or in general not performing like a bot.

You can't carry a team to victory if it does not want to win so all you do is get frustrated.


Why bother about doing damage then if you don’t care about winning?



Private_Miros #70 Posted 07 February 2020 - 01:25 PM

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You should not care about the results as such in a short session of games, but focus on playing well, as that will influence the chances of wins at least.

 

That said, since my return, and performing worse now than when I quit, I notice very well how playing well influences the outcome. For every session of 30 games there's at least 2 or 3 games that I personally throw (I'm still good enough to get in that position, but old me would have won them 75% of the time, rather than simply not now). In that same sessions there'll be 5-10 games where I die stupidly or prematurely and simply have a negative effect on the win chances all over.

 

The other games are simply won or lost regardless, regardless or despite my decent contribution.


Edited by Private_Miros, 07 February 2020 - 02:33 PM.


NUKLEAR_SLUG #71 Posted 07 February 2020 - 01:37 PM

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View Postkiller999death, on 07 February 2020 - 01:00 PM, said:

People are going to say ''There is one constant in those losing streaks'' implying YOU are the cause of those loses but they fail to realize it's a 15vs15 format meaning the other constant is playing with 14 randoms of which 10 do nothing but find out W key moves the tank forwards.



Sometimes you lose 20 battles in a row. Sometimes you win 20 in a row even when you do nothing. It's crappy.

 

People say that because it's true. You are the only constant in your battles as the rest of the team balances out skill wise over time so whilst you may not be solely responsible for a loss of a single game you are responsible for being either a positive or negative influence to the outcome of a number of games over time.

 

Play consistently well and you will win more games. Play consistently poorly and you will lose more games. This is simple fact. 



Bulldog_Drummond #72 Posted 07 February 2020 - 07:38 PM

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View PostCregan37, on 07 February 2020 - 09:01 AM, said:



Assuming consistent 50% play, losing 23 of 35 is a chance of 0,045. Which actually is less than a lot of significance-levels used in quality control.

 

Most likely OP was having bad luck, but most likely also did it to himself by getting frustrated and ruching his later games.

 

How did you calculate that?  The coin toss calculation puts it as a 2.4% chance, which is bad luck but hardly very remarkable.

And bear in mind that you are not looking at a one off event but the possibility of this happening in 10K games



Voldemars_Veiss #73 Posted 07 February 2020 - 08:16 PM

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today is super bad, how effing stupid can this playerbase be, when 5 games in a row 70% of the team cant do more than effing 1 shot of dmg, red bots.

p.s. i really wish we had like 12 servers, so at least there was a chance to look for server with less braindamaged idiots


Edited by gitgud_cannot, 07 February 2020 - 08:33 PM.


LOROVIRUS #74 Posted 07 February 2020 - 09:12 PM

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This is just f*****g [edited]. Game is either rigged or winning is pure luck. Game went suddenly to FU mode a month a go. 30 days losing "streak". It is not f*****g possible to have 25% winarate 5/7 days. Might try to AFKing the battles next. Could not be worse results. 

 



thetartanbaron #75 Posted 07 February 2020 - 09:25 PM

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Your win rate for Jan is 54%. Hardly a losing streak.

NUKLEAR_SLUG #76 Posted 07 February 2020 - 09:27 PM

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View PostLOROVIRUS, on 07 February 2020 - 09:12 PM, said:

This is just f*****g [edited]. Game is either rigged or winning is pure luck. Game went suddenly to FU mode a month a go. 30 days losing "streak". It is not f*****g possible to have 25% winarate 5/7 days. Might try to AFKing the battles next. Could not be worse results. 

 

 

You have a 55% WR which means it can't be luck as luck would only give you 50%. So you should thank WG for rigging your games to give you your undeserved 55%. 



LOROVIRUS #77 Posted 07 February 2020 - 09:28 PM

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View Postthetartanbaron, on 07 February 2020 - 09:25 PM, said:

Your win rate for Jan is 54%. Hardly a losing streak.

 

Is that for me? My last 30 days winrate 44% + today winrate 25%

E: actually 16% today

20:32 Added after 4 minute

View PostNUKLEAR_SLUG, on 07 February 2020 - 09:27 PM, said:

 

You have a 55% WR which means it can't be luck as luck would only give you 50%. So you should thank WG for rigging your games to give you your undeserved 55%. 

 

Rigged or luck, anything you do in battle doesn't seem to have any affect. 


Edited by LOROVIRUS, 07 February 2020 - 09:34 PM.


thetartanbaron #78 Posted 07 February 2020 - 09:39 PM

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Sorry mate. Misread 2018 for 2019 in noobmeter. Ok your 30 day win rate is 44% but you only played 60 battles so even one loss will affect your last month % in a big way. Just winning another three battles would have given you 50%.

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View PostLOROVIRUS, on 07 February 2020 - 09:28 PM, said:

 

Is that for me? My last 30 days winrate 44% + today winrate 25%

E: actually 16% today

20:32 Added after 4 minute

 

Rigged or luck, anything you do in battle doesn't seem to have any affect. 

 

How did you get a 55% WR then if nothing you do makes a difference? 



LOROVIRUS #80 Posted 07 February 2020 - 09:42 PM

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View PostNUKLEAR_SLUG, on 07 February 2020 - 09:41 PM, said:

 

How did you get a 55% WR then if nothing you do makes a difference? 

By luck or rigging apparently. 






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