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gitgud_cannot #1 Posted 09 February 2020 - 12:47 AM

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Decided to get another tier 10, but as have already spent all the gold, blueprints and free xp during xmas period by getting those things faster - 60TP, Kranvagn, Udes 15/16, Obj 263, T110E4.

I decided that with a little amount that i have left, i should try doing it the old way, max free xp tracks if needed, if not then full stock grind, no epic crews no nothing.

Only thing i have is a few xp boosters left, that will run out in couple of days as well :D

 

Ok, so my point is, i usually saw a lot of complaints about swe td stock grinds, that even upgraded lower tiers are crap, but you know what - even with full stock grinds on ikv 103 and ikv 65, i kind of enjoyed them, although not finished with ikv 65 yet, it will take only couple of battles. Aced both of them, ikv 65 3 or 4 times i think :D By any means they are not even close to being the best tds at their tier, but camo values seem good enough :P That shell velocity on ikv 103(400m/s) is just so troll, had some fun leading the shots 300+ meter away. Its funny how mid tier stock grinds might end up just fine and even kind of fun.

 

I played the swe mid tier meds and polish mid tier tanks as well, but i didnt play them stock, im a masochist, i guess, but i like having some stock grinds :D i just didnt dare to that with polish vehicles as they are way too tragic to play stock - great free xp sink. If you are checking my stats now, why i havent played 50TP at all? well when you assemble a blueprint, its 0 xp to get the next tank, so i just free xped the gun and jumped straight into 60tp, is it worth getting 50TP though, just as another tier 9? feels kind of weak..

 

I guess you are kind of disappointed, that this is not yet another whine thread of how bad the grind is :D But im just wondering, if i liked ikv 65, is the next one(ikv 90) stinker of the line? Just by looking at stats it seems fine. if so then im fine :D as most of the swedish vehicle specific blueprints have dropped on udes 03(5/8), so i dont have to play with it for more than around 35, maybe 40 games.

 

p.s. Ikv 65 - 27 battles, 1348 dpg, 1,7 kpg, 1,0 spots per game -  55,5% wr is not great, but cant really expect much more from mid tier gameplay on weekend :D

 



Warzey #2 Posted 09 February 2020 - 02:18 AM

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Ikv 103 and 65 are not terrible tanks per say, it's just that interesting stuff starts at T8, so people usually want to get rid of them as soon as possible.

UDES 03 stock grind can be a pain, because gun is underwhelming to say the least and you have new play style to adapt to. I'd say that crew with full camo and 6th sense are mandatory for this tank.

You shouldn't have any issues with Strv 103-0 since top gun on UDES is good enough to deal with anything. 



DuncaN_101 #3 Posted 09 February 2020 - 09:00 AM

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View PostWarzey, on 09 February 2020 - 02:18 AM, said:

Ikv 103 and 65 are not terrible tanks per say, it's just that interesting stuff starts at T8, so people usually want to get rid of them as soon as possible.

UDES 03 stock grind can be a pain, because gun is underwhelming to say the least and you have new play style to adapt to. I'd say that crew with full camo and 6th sense are mandatory for this tank.

You shouldn't have any issues with Strv 103-0 since top gun on UDES is good enough to deal with anything. 

This

 

Also I am old fashioned. I always do te grind from stock. 



How_hard_can_it_be #4 Posted 09 February 2020 - 01:13 PM

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View PostDuncaN_101, on 09 February 2020 - 09:00 AM, said:

This

 

Also I am old fashioned. I always do te grind from stock. 


You're not old fashioned, you're insane:trollface:



DuncaN_101 #5 Posted 09 February 2020 - 01:13 PM

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that might also be why ...

Bulldog_Drummond #6 Posted 09 February 2020 - 01:32 PM

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Any TD he wants, he'll get
He will break any sinks without regret
His days of grinding are all gone
His fight goes on, and on, and on
But he thinks that the fight is worth it all
So he strikes like Thunderball

gitgud_cannot #7 Posted 10 February 2020 - 02:10 PM

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So, yesterday finished up with ikea 90, well yeah it was that great of an experience :D but still not the worst, that i have played with.

until now i was cheap pleb and ran rammer, net and binos, the question is should i do the same thing with tier 8, 9, 10?

 

i know that there has always been 2 camps of swe tds players - rammer, net, binos vs rammer, vents, binos.

Especially on strv 103b, i have checked the difference of both setups on wotinfo camo calculator and there might be a point of using net instead of vents,

when enemy has 500m VR you wont get spotted after shot at 445m with net, but around 430ish meters, although if enemy tank has 520+ VR it doesnt matter, if you use camo net or not :D

on the other hand, against blind heavies and assault tds without optics, it really doesnt matter - you can still shoot them from ~400m without getting spotted, while sitting in open, at least in theory.

[edit] changed my mind on setup i ran rammer vents binos on strv 103-0 for most of the time and will do the same on strv103b, camo net did not seem to provide enough use in practice, in theory it should, in practice the way how camo, spotting mechanics work are just plain weird.

 

 

Bare in mind that if i will use setup with vents, i have improved vent unit laying around, so the increase of other parameters like traverse speed, camo on the move, accuracy, dpm and my own VR which might be more useful than simply having a chance to shoot without cover at close to spotting range. cant really decide on this one myself :D 

 

I have switched to binos and net on some of my prems like Kanonenjagdpanzer 105 and su 130pm and it actually works, shooting at targets ~ 400m while sitting in the open and not get spotted, but its at tier 8 with simmilar camo values to strv 103b, so i doubt that it will work that well against higher tiers :D

 

 

 

 


Edited by gitgud_cannot, 15 February 2020 - 08:33 PM.


vonadnan #8 Posted 10 February 2020 - 04:08 PM

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Well gratz to u for doing good in them, I actualy made alt acc just to play that line.. I mean tier 6 with that dpm.. Flatpanzer has almost double and some armor.. Udes can not bounce sh.t but solid mobility makes it workable. On tier 9 starts the fun. Gl

Chuwt #9 Posted 10 February 2020 - 10:21 PM

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Grind the Churchill GC, everything else then seems a pleasure.

Swedish TDS are certainly not a particularly unpleasent line to grind, providing you have the mentality or need to grind at all, because if you dont, any grind will seem grim. My biggest problem with grinding is that by the time i have finish it, I have almost always develepoded a bit of a soft spot for the tank, and do not really want to get rid of it...

 

 



Robbie_T #10 Posted 10 February 2020 - 11:12 PM

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Depends on your play style....i dont like the swedish Td line becuase its not my kind of play style...

Still stuck at tier8 and probberly will for a long time.

But if you like playing sniper in a bush its one of the best lines.

 



gitgud_cannot #11 Posted 10 February 2020 - 11:17 PM

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View PostRobbie_T, on 11 February 2020 - 12:12 AM, said:

Depends on your play style....i dont like the swedish Td line becuase its not my kind of play style...

Still stuck at tier8 and probberly will for a long time.

But if you like playing sniper in a bush its one of the best lines.

 

i like high dpm :) bushcamping is not fun, but if you do it, then why not to do it with the best bushwankers :D



LCpl_Jones #12 Posted 11 February 2020 - 12:50 AM

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ikea 90 is a turd, it's no upgrade from the 65 lol

Udes 03 is the pinnacle in bush kemping. Nobody can see you and it's mobile enough to get in some ridiculous spots, where still, nobody will see you. Can even play it as light when your team is missing one :bush:

 



gitgud_cannot #13 Posted 11 February 2020 - 12:59 AM

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View PostLCpl_Jones, on 11 February 2020 - 01:50 AM, said:

ikea 90 is a turd, it's no upgrade from the 65 lol

Udes 03 is the pinnacle in bush kemping. Nobody can see you and it's mobile enough to get in some ridiculous spots, where still, nobody will see you. Can even play it as light when your team is missing one :bush:

 

well when i compared camo values of udes 03 and strv 103b, udes gets better stationary camo, but after firing its pretty much the same ;)

in max camo config, udes 03 gets 14,19 after firing, strv 103b gets 13,68 and just for a reference, there is another very sneaky tier 8 td and its a german :D Kanonenjagdpanzer 105 gets 13,50 after firing, so im kind of used to those camo levels already :D 0,71 more than Kanonen and 0,51 more than strv 103b is not that huge of a difference. Stationary camo matter as well ofcourse, but its the one after firing, which is the most important one :) 


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gitgud_cannot #14 Posted 12 February 2020 - 10:28 PM

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A little update from my side :P

So finished Udes 03 today and started with 103-0, first thing is that udes fully stock is unplayable indeed, played like 5 battles stock, after that free xp tracks and gun, with the last free xp i had.

Played 60 battles, 56.67% wr  and 2281 dpg, although its a decent damage for a tier 8, udes is quite frustrating to play compared to strv 103-0, although i will end up being in top 10 at hall of fame in january with udes lol.

 

Strv 103 - 0 feels so good, this one i played full stock, until i got enough xp for tracks, so i can mount 3rd equipment unit on it :D Now going for the engine.

In those first 17 battles i have played - aced it twice, it really doesnt matter if its stock :) 58.82% wr and 3362 dpg so far, will see how it goes at around 100 battles i hope to still have around 3k+ dpg and 60% wr :P

http://wotreplays.eu/site/5227387#arctic_region-gitgud_cannot-strv_103-0 Top 3 by xp in this patch :D 

http://Strv 103-0 Ace, High caliber, Top gun, Tank sniper

 

p.s. I really dont understand, how people fail so hard in this tank? too much unnecessary redline camping i guess.

 

 

 

 



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Im not sure why, but when i played udes and 103 0 the gun handling and the overall feel was so dogshite i just couldnt play them.
s1 feels and acts like a tier 8 103b, stiff and the gun handling is good enough that you dont need to wait to aim when you turn. But 103 0 just felt floaty and heavy for some reason, according to stats its suppose to handle better than s1, but it just felt so much worse.

It might have been a bug and has since been fixed, but my god did those 2 play horrid when they launched.

 

But yeah 103b is the best in the tree by far and net, binos and rammer is the only way to play it properly



gitgud_cannot #16 Posted 13 February 2020 - 12:20 AM

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gun still trolls quite a bit on both of them.. it really shouldnt be like that, considering they have the "supersniper" mode.

one thing i dont get, is why exactly only tier 9 gets way better traverse speed? shouldnt it be the tier 10 that gets the best stats lol.


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gitgud_cannot #17 Posted 15 February 2020 - 07:00 PM

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So, finished up with strv 103-0 today, my opinion on it? its a great tier 9 td, that can carry games, but is usually played quite badly, thats why i aced it like 10 times over 130 battles played, i guess :D

final stats : 130 battles - 59,23% wr and 2822 dpg + on top of that top 5 in hall of fame lulz, probably should of got 3rd moe on it as well, as i hit 91,52% after last battles, but im too lazy to do that.

btw i changed my mind and after playing first 50 battles with camo net i switched to vents and its works pretty much as good, so yeah rammer vents binos is the best way to go, if you want to play a bit more aggressive sometimes as well.

 

Just for the memes, on str103b this will be my setup for a start :D damn that dpm.

stationary camo of 49,7 and stationary after shot at 10,4 seems fine with me, as it did work with strv 103-0, ok tier 9 has tiny bit better camo, but that wont change much.

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