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Hawker96 #1 Posted 10 February 2020 - 10:35 PM

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Since the announcement today I cant seem to find a clear and concise list anywhere on any WG platform of all of the tanks intended to be removed / relocated in the global rebalance patch.

 

Understandably these tanks are not going to be unattainable but it would still be nice for transparency and forward planning for those of us who want to get them researched now rather than the video vaguely saying "We will tell you how later".

 

Any help on a list would be much appreciated. 



Balc0ra #2 Posted 10 February 2020 - 10:42 PM

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The tier 2 to 5 tanks being removed will still be available for purchase in the game. Sold for silver in the store in their non-elite from. So you have to grind XP on them. So no worries about getting anything there now. And we are talking about over 80 tanks. So it's a long list.

 

The tier 6+ tanks being removed will be unattainable for the most part after their removal. As WG did say they would appear again. I suspect they had BM or even the bond shop in mind etc.

 

The list atm is the KV-85, KV-13 and T-62A for Russia. VK 30.01D and the JP II for Germany. T21, M4A3E2 and the T71DA for the US. AMX 30 and the AMX 30 B for France. Churchill GC and the Firefly for the UK. And the tier X 113 for China. Those will be removed. But if you have them, they will become special vehicles. As in 1.5x crew xp bonus.


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Hawker96 #3 Posted 10 February 2020 - 10:42 PM

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View PostBalc0ra, on 10 February 2020 - 09:42 PM, said:

The list atm is the KV-85, KV-13 and T-62A for Russia. VK 30.01D and the JP II for Germany. T21, M4A3E2 and the T71DA for the US. AMX 30 and the AMX 30 B for France. Churchill GC and the Firefly for the UK. And the tier X 113 for China. Those will be removed. But if you have them, they will become special vehicles. As in 1.5x crew xp bonus.

 

Thank you. These are the ones I will focus on for now. 



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From someone on a Discord I'm on:

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Italy: Removed L6/40

Sweden: Removed Pvlvv fm/42, Ikv 72

Japan: Removed Chi-Ni, Ke-Ni, Ke-Ho, I-Go/Chi-Ro, Type 91, Type 95, O-I Exp

China: Removed T-26G FT, M3G FT, 113

UK: Removed Medium I, Medium II, Medium III, M2, Stuart I-IV, Grant, Sherman III, Firefly, UC 2-pdr, Alecto, Archer, Churchill GC, Loyd GC, Sexton II, Birch Gun

UK: Moved Cruiser I to Tier I, Cruiser II to Tier II, Cruiser III to Tier III, Cruiser IV to Tier IV, Covenanter to Tier V, Crusader to Tier VI, Valentine to Tier III, Valentine AT to Tier IV

UK: New Cavalier MT (Tier V)

France: Removed D1, D2, H35, R35, SARL 42, G1R, AMX 30, AMX 30B, FT AC, UE 57, FT BS, Lorr 39L AM, AMX 105 AM

USA: Removed T2 Medium, M2 Medium, M3 Lee, M7, M4A3E2, T21, T71 DA, T3 HMC, T56 GMC, T40, T67, T1 HMC, M7 Priest, T82 HMC, M37

USA: Changed T54E1 to a Heavy

USA: New T6 Medium (Tier IV)

USSR: Removed T-26, T-46, T-80, T-50, KV-85, KV-13, T-62A, AT-I, SU-85B, SU-18, SU-26, SU-5, SU-14-1

USSR: Moved BT-7 to Tier IV, SU-76M to Tier IV, KV-1S to Tier VI

USSR: New BT-5 Light (Tier III)

Germany: Removed Pz. I, Pz. 35(t), Pz. I C, Pz. 38(t), Pz. IV A, Pz. 38 nA, Pz. IV D, VK 20.01 (D), D.W.2, Pz. III/IV, VK 30.01 (D), Pz. Jag I, Marder II, Hetzer, Marder 38(t), Pz. Sfl IVc, Jagdpanther II, G.Pz.Mk.VI, Bison, Wespe, St. Pz. II, Pz. Sfl IVb

Germany: Changed VK 30.01 (H) to a Medium, change VK 30.01 (P) to a Heavy

 

That's all of the changes I'm aware of, but I'm not on the Sandbox or anything myself nor have I been looking much at it. Hopefully anyone can correct me on any mistakes or missing tanks.


Edited by Desyatnik_Pansy, 11 February 2020 - 03:08 PM.


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FYI... KV-1S is now a tier 6. KV-85 keeps the 100mm gun in the special tank status mode. Not the 122mm that most did fear.

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Here are some of the current sandbox tech trees: 

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4nt #7 Posted 10 February 2020 - 10:55 PM

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That's a long shopping list...

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Sylvansight #8 Posted 10 February 2020 - 11:08 PM

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list in the video at 3m 2s

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAkqUT7srSA

 



 



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I get to mark one of my favorite tanks, the Covenanter. Also will have quite a few tanks to buy.

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View PostSylvansight, on 10 February 2020 - 10:08 PM, said:

list in the video at 3m 2s

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAkqUT7srSA

 

 

Those aren't tanks being removed, but a list to do with HE Changes considering many of those have high pen HE Shells such as HESH/HEP.

 

View PostMav75, on 10 February 2020 - 10:19 PM, said:

I get to mark one of my favorite tanks, the Covenanter. Also will have quite a few tanks to buy.

 

I didn't even think about that. :teethhappy:


Edited by Desyatnik_Pansy, 10 February 2020 - 11:19 PM.


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View PostDesyatnik_Pansy, on 10 February 2020 - 11:19 PM, said:

I didn't even think about that. :teethhappy:

 

Like the Crusader moving to tier 6. The guns remain... unchanged as of now one tier up. So 3 inch derp with the slowest shell in the game. Bofors with 63 AP pen, pom pom with 49 pen. Or the 2pdr with 78 pen. Not played it yet. But... it's gonna be an interesting MOE run.

 

 


Edited by Balc0ra, 10 February 2020 - 11:32 PM.


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View PostBalc0ra, on 10 February 2020 - 10:30 PM, said:

Like the Crusader moving to tier 6. The guns remain... unchanged as of now one tier up. So 3 inch derp with the slowest shell in the game. Bofors with 63 AP pen, pom pom with 49 pen. Or the 2pdr with 78 pen. Not played it yet. But... it's gonna be an interesting MOE run.

 

Personally I like to believe they haven't actually balanced tanks that moved up (or down) yet for their new tiers, and that they will modify them slightly in the future. Can't say, I'll have to try and check it out myself.



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ok, so i will have 3 special vehicles :D amx 30, 113 and t62a. while i dont see an issue with 113 and t62a as i can put current crews in other tanks, 113 to china lts, maybe i will finish that line at least :D and t62a crew to whatever - maybe rebuy 705a or something. a bit more difficult with amx 30 though, i really dont like to keep a dedicated crew in "special" vehicles, the only exception is T55A crew(from E50, which has no use for me anymore), because leo crews have different priorities and e50m has dedicated radio operator.

i guess i will use the bc-25t crew in it and move amx 30 crew to Foch maybe, as i never finished that line either :D  as we have crew books nowadays, i will train up new loader for amx 30 seperately then :D

 

Thats actually a very good news, as i really dont like grinding crews for new lines :)

 

p.s. if they are removing amx 30 and 30b, they could of removed e50, e50m as well then :D

 

edit: about removal of t-62a, well this one i actually dont understand, why just not remove obj 140 and replace t62a with t62M? i really hoped they would replace t62a not remove it from the tech tree.

 

 


Edited by gitgud_cannot, 11 February 2020 - 12:51 AM.


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View PostHawker96, on 10 February 2020 - 10:42 PM, said:

 

Thank you. These are the ones I will focus on for now. 

 

Am i missing something here ? If these tanks become 'special' tanks available simply for credits then won't (for example) researching the T-62A for 200k exp be a waste of that exp if you can get them without using exp after the change ?



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crapI need to re-buy T71 DA and Hetzer.

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View PostGustyOWindflap, on 11 February 2020 - 12:53 AM, said:

 

Am i missing something here ? If these tanks become 'special' tanks available simply for credits then won't (for example) researching the T-62A for 200k exp be a waste of that exp if you can get them without using exp after the change ?

 

The tier 6 + tanks removed will become special tanks if you own them. Much like the T-55A or the Foch 155. So 1.5x crew XP bonus etc. But, you need to own those to get it. The tier 2 to 5 tanks getting removed you can get for credits later. But only those. So the T-62A you need to use the 200K XP to get first.

 

It seems to be a bit of confusion still for some. I just watched a replay of QB stream to see his reaction. He got it all wrong and ranted for 20 min about how WG was stupid, got the chat all fired up about the T67 being removed from the game. Then cooled down and watched the next 10 seconds of the WG video, and realized he got it all wrong.... as per usual. He fired before he read the rest of the line.

 

View Post_cro_magnon, on 11 February 2020 - 12:58 AM, said:

crapI need to re-buy T71 DA and Hetzer.

 

T71 DA sure. Hetzer? It will still be there for silver even after they do this. Tho... derp is a bit off on that one now. Armor with the new HP is a bit troll tho.


Edited by Balc0ra, 11 February 2020 - 01:05 AM.


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View PostGustyOWindflap, on 11 February 2020 - 01:53 AM, said:

 

Am i missing something here ? If these tanks become 'special' tanks available simply for credits then won't (for example) researching the T-62A for 200k exp be a waste of that exp if you can get them without using exp after the change ?

yes you are missing something, only low tier shitters will be available freely for credits, tier 6+ wont be.

 

p.s. yeah missed the t71da, before they change this, have to rebuy it as well, i guess im not missing anything else, worth getting. JP2 was great like 6 years ago, not nowadays. 

edit: almost forgot, 30b as well, damn another credit sink.


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View PostBalc0ra, on 11 February 2020 - 01:02 AM, said:

 

The tier 6 + tanks removed will become special tanks if you own them. Much like the T-55A or the Foch 155. So 1.5x crew XP bonus etc. But, you need to own those to get it. The tier 2 to 5 tanks getting removed you can get for credits later. But only those. So the T-62A you need to use the 200K XP to get first.

 

It seems to be a bit of confusion still for some. I just watched a replay of QB stream to see his reaction. He got it all wrong and ranted for 20 min about how WG was stupid, got the chat all fired up about the T67 being removed from the game. Then cooled down and watched the next 10 seconds of the WG video, and realized he got it all wrong.... as per usual. He fired before he read the rest of the line.

 

 

View Postgitgud_cannot, on 11 February 2020 - 01:03 AM, said:

yes you are missing something, only low tier shitters will be available freely for credits, tier 6+ wont be.

 

Thanks for the clarity on that. :great:



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View PostGustyOWindflap, on 11 February 2020 - 12:53 AM, said:

 

Am i missing something here ? If these tanks become 'special' tanks available simply for credits then won't (for example) researching the T-62A for 200k exp be a waste of that exp if you can get them without using exp after the change ?


No because you will not have the posibility to get T-62A after the update. Only the tanks tier 1-5 would be avaialbe in the collector vehicles .



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View Postgitgud_cannot, on 11 February 2020 - 01:03 AM, said:

JP2 was great like 6 years ago, not nowadays. 

edit: almost forgot, 30b as well, damn another credit sink.

 

JP2 is still solid. DPM, mobility, camo. Armor that can work on the super structure. I'm not complaining about that turning into a crew trainer.






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