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Suggestion to WG: Make 113, T62A and AMX30B next TotT lines

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undutchable80 #1 Posted 13 February 2020 - 09:33 AM

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So, I am sure by now we have all read and watched the news on the New Balance and WG's proposal to remove a large number of tanks from the tech tree. Tier 2-5 will go to a special section where you can buy them (without having to grind them) so they are not 'gone'. However, a number of T6+ tanks are basically being removed (unless you already own them - then you keep them). Three Tier X tanks will meet such a fate: the Chinese 113, the Russian T62A and the French AMX30B.

 

When WG removed the FV215 (183) (and replaced it with the Badger) with patch 9.21 in February 2018, they made the Deathstar the Top of the Tree* line for that period prior to the release of update 9.21. (https://worldoftanks...t-dec-jan-2018/) to give players a "final chance to add it to your arsenal before it becomes a special vehicle".

 

So, if I may make a humble suggestion to WG in this regard: IF after Sandbox testing the removal of the aforementioned tanks is confirmed; please make those lines Top of the Tree, so people will have a better opportunity to get the tank(s) they want before they are removed. Oh, and please make those TotTs last a month in stead of the two weeks new format we currently have.

 

*Not entirely sure if WG did the same when the AMX 50 Foch (155) was removed (and replaced by the AMX 50 Foch B).

 

Wasn't sure if I should add a poll to give some playerbase weight to my suggestion, but can always add one later. So, what do you think? Good suggestion or GTFO n00b? ;)

 

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Note: Please don't use this thread to post your views on the proposed shells rebalance; we have enough threads on that topic already on top of the official one. And the 3 tier X tanks may not be 'meta' tanks, so no need to post comments like "T62A sucks - just get the Obj430U"; I want to give players (yes, including myself) the best chance to get them should they choose so.  



TankkiPoju #2 Posted 13 February 2020 - 09:35 AM

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Why would WG want people to grind the next BM tanks now?

 

They can just slap a 22M or 40k gold price tag on them next year.



undutchable80 #3 Posted 13 February 2020 - 04:28 PM

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View PostTankkiPoju, on 13 February 2020 - 09:35 AM, said:

Why would WG want people to grind the next BM tanks now?

 

They can just slap a 22M or 40k gold price tag on them next year.

Quite likely, which is part of the reason why I would love to see those three lines being made into TotT...



Balc0ra #4 Posted 13 February 2020 - 04:31 PM

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iirc, every past removed tier X was to give people time to get it before it went away. So who knows if they are as generous again.

Edited by Balc0ra, 13 February 2020 - 04:36 PM.


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View PostTankkiPoju, on 13 February 2020 - 09:35 AM, said:

Why would WG want people to grind the next BM tanks now?

 

educated guess may be extra cash from free xp conversion.

the real issue here is pile up 18 million silver to buy all three. frontline will come to the rescue in time?



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View Postundutchable80, on 13 February 2020 - 08:33 AM, said:

Note: Please don't use this thread to post your views on the proposed shells rebalance; we have enough threads on that topic already on top of the official one. And the 3 tier X tanks may not be 'meta' tanks, so no need to post comments like "T62A sucks - just get the Obj430U"; I want to give players (yes, including myself) the best chance to get them should they choose so.  

 

I'll actually step up and "enforce" this. I'm not planning to sanction anyone based on it, but I will remove the posts and ask you to post somewhere else on the matter. :honoring:

 

Personally speaking I approve of the suggestion, even though I've no real interest in the 113/T-62A Myself and already own the 30B (arguably I should buy the AMX 30 Back as well considering I'm more likely to actually play that one).

 

View PostKill_Broccoli, on 13 February 2020 - 03:35 PM, said:

educated guess may be extra cash from free xp conversion.

the real issue here is pile up 18 million silver to buy all three. frontline will come to the rescue in time?

 

Frontline is starting March 9th to 16th, and I doubt such significant changes on the Sandbox will actually be applied before then so yes, I think it'll come in time to be the hero we don't deserve.



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View PostBalc0ra, on 13 February 2020 - 04:31 PM, said:

iirc, every past removed tier X was to give people time to get it before it went away. So who knows if they are as generous again.

The news is out, probably everyone has personal reserves enough so they should start grinding and not wait for a possible TotT...



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I just got the tier 6 VK and the KV-13. I unlocked 113 and T-62A but I am waiting for a discount.

 

The only tanks that I cannot get are the 2 AMX. I am to lazy to farm in the BC 12T enough xp. I think they aren't worth it anyway.. Mostly the tier X 30B.



LZ_Mordan #9 Posted 14 February 2020 - 12:42 AM

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the changes are 2-3 months away..

 

so you have time to grind them. Its not like its happening in a few weeks.

 

I don't have the silver anyways. I will buy AMX 30b and JPanther II and the T6s I am grinding right now since the news.

 

No interest in the KV-13. No silver.. I also will have to buy the Progetto in the next event.


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gitgud_cannot #10 Posted 14 February 2020 - 12:52 AM

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not going to happen :D

Spurtung #11 Posted 14 February 2020 - 08:11 AM

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Bought the KV-13 and the SU-14-1, and that's it for me, I already had the other 12 that will become reward vehicles.

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I have a question... if I have T62a and AMX30b I will keep those tanks or wg going to throw away? 
 



So_So_English #13 Posted 14 February 2020 - 11:50 AM

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I am surprised the French meds and chinese heavy are being removed as they are hardly over populated tech trees like the Russian line

 

also sad to see real tanks being removed at the expense of fictional or paper tanks



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Good suggestion dutch, there's 2.5 months chance, so I don't think 1 month is good idea tho. 

 

I myself, I always loved to have AMX 30, and it's already researched, I'm just waiting for a decent discount. :) 

 



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View PostBalc0ra, on 13 February 2020 - 03:31 PM, said:

So who knows if they are as generous again.

 

What do you call this then if not generous, giving out information like half a year before. They could've easily just not told us anything



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View PostTakeos, on 14 February 2020 - 12:34 PM, said:

I have a question... if I have T62a and AMX30b I will keep those tanks or wg going to throw away? 
 

Ofc you keep them. 



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WG will probably just stick them in the bond shop since there's not much in there anyway don't get to worked up about it because apart from the tier 9 AMX 30 the rest are not great or have similar and better alternatives which is why they are going so currently kinda suck and not worth bothering with, certainly not worth getting annoyed about.

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View Postgitgud_cannot, on 14 February 2020 - 12:52 AM, said:

not going to happen :D

 

Out of the 4 changes they are testing. I suspect this is one that is most likely to happen tbh.

 

View PostSpurtung, on 14 February 2020 - 08:11 AM, said:

Bought the KV-13 and the SU-14-1, and that's it for me, I already had the other 12 that will become reward vehicles.

 

SU-14-1 was the only one not mentioned. And I don't know anyone that has it, to see what happened to it on test. Or if it's just gone. But... I will get that one last either way to be sure.

 

View PostLethalWalou, on 14 February 2020 - 12:23 PM, said:

 

What do you call this then if not generous, giving out information like half a year before. They could've easily just not told us anything

 

So they did with the Foch 155 etc. But that was not the point. As most have wasted all their silver on BM. It will cost a fair bit to get every tank removed. But... FL will start before that, so I suspect some bonus income to speed it up for most to make it in good time either way.



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So what's the full list of tanks being removed or the link to it?

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View PostTungstenHitman, on 14 February 2020 - 03:23 PM, said:

So what's the full list of tanks being removed or the link to it?

taly: Removed L6/40

Sweden: Removed Pvlvv fm/42, Ikv 72

Japan: Removed Chi-Ni, Ke-Ni, Ke-Ho, I-Go/Chi-Ro, Type 91, Type 95, O-I Exp

China: Removed T-26G FT, M3G FT, 113

UK: Removed Medium I, Medium II, Medium III, M2, Stuart I-IV, Grant, Sherman III, Firefly, UC 2-pdr, Alecto, Archer, Churchill GC, Loyd GC, Sexton II, Birch Gun

UK: Moved Cruiser I to Tier I, Cruiser II to Tier II, Cruiser III to Tier III, Cruiser IV to Tier IV, Covenanter to Tier V, Crusader to Tier VI, Valentine to Tier III, Valentine AT to Tier IV

UK: New Cavalier MT (Tier V)

France: Removed D1, D2, H35, R35, SARL 42, G1R, AMX 30, AMX 30B, FT AC, UE 57, FT BS, Lorr 39L AM, AMX 105 AM

USA: Removed T2 Medium, M2 Medium, M3 Lee, M7, M4A3E2, T21, T71 DA, T3 HMC, T56 GMC, T40, T67, T1 HMC, M7 Priest, T82 HMC, M37

USA: Changed T54E1 to a Heavy

USA: New T6 Medium (Tier IV)

USSR: Removed T-26, T-46, T-80, T-50, KV-85, KV-13, T-62A, AT-I, SU-85B, SU-18, SU-26, SU-5, SU-14-1

USSR: Moved BT-7 to Tier IV, SU-76M to Tier IV, KV-1S to Tier VI

USSR: New BT-5 Light (Tier III)

Germany: Removed Pz. I, Pz. 35(t), Pz. I C, Pz. 38(t), Pz. IV A, Pz. 38 nA, Pz. IV D, VK 20.01 (D), D.W.2, Pz. III/IV, VK 30.01 (D), Pz. Jag I, Marder II, Hetzer, Marder 38(t), Pz. Sfl IVc, Jagdpanther II, G.Pz.Mk.VI, Bison, Wespe, St. Pz. II, Pz. Sfl IVb

Germany: Changed VK 30.01 (H) to a Medium, change VK 30.01 (P) to a Heavy







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