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blackeyes90 #41 Posted 13 February 2020 - 03:57 PM

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when will they pushlish all the data  a week before frontline ?

TheNightFox #42 Posted 13 February 2020 - 04:05 PM

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View PostShadowfang, on 13 February 2020 - 02:58 PM, said:

2019:

10 month period

 

Frontline 2020 rewards:

1 week period repeated 4 times (+4 for the steelhunter, unless reward get changed)

 

the reward isn't that bad for such a short period compared to last year?

 

The answer is mathematics. WG makes changes a little complicated, so lazy peeps don't do the math, and WG CMs point out the pluses and say that they're balancing the minuses (without getting into any calculus ofc). The way to objectively appreciate whether it's good or bad is to count how much you get per hour of gameplay. In the end that's the end measure. And to quantify into that everything, I mean the final rewards as well as the intermediate ones.

 

Work on it half an hour and you'll figure out (but we don't have a figure of how many points are required to get to stage 15, so I approximated 20000 points) that there are minuses:

- credit per hour is worse

- bonds reward is (way) smaller

- consumables are gone

- gold reward is gone

- credit boosters are gone

- premium tanks are gone

 

and pluses:

+ you'll get 2 T9 reward tanks instead of just 1, for LESS total work that the T9 last year required.

 

So it's pretty simple:

- you value T9 reward tanks (which are non-premium, bear that in mind) more than everything in the minus section? Go for it.

- you play the mode for fun, not for the rewards? Go for it

- you are mainly after rewards? You've got a worse deal than last year, think twice about participating.


Edited by TheNightFox, 13 February 2020 - 04:21 PM.


sgtPompom #43 Posted 13 February 2020 - 04:08 PM

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View PostTheNightFox, on 13 February 2020 - 04:05 PM, said:

and pluses:

+ you'll get 2 T9 reward tanks instead of just 1, for LESS total work that the T9 last year required.

 

Correction, you'll get two exclusive tier IX instead of one exclusive tier IX and one exclusive tier VIII

 

So 2020 is still more rewarding in that regard but the gap between 2019 and 2020 is not as big as you imply.


Edited by sgtPompom, 13 February 2020 - 04:09 PM.


TheNightFox #44 Posted 13 February 2020 - 04:11 PM

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View PostsgtPompom, on 13 February 2020 - 04:08 PM, said:

 

Correction, you'll get two exclusive tier IX instead of one exclusive tier IX and one exclusive tier VIII

 

So 2020 is still more rewarding in that regard but the gap between 2019 and 2020 is not as big as you imply.

 

I think I pointed that out already in the plus line that I have up there. Also, you're last sentence is not really clear..

 

Ok, that's more clear now after you edited. I think that the gap is in the eye of the beholder to weight. As I said above, if you value T9 reward tanks highly then this is a great development.


Edited by TheNightFox, 13 February 2020 - 04:19 PM.


Puszka_Drynia #45 Posted 13 February 2020 - 04:20 PM

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Shame about Frontline being nerfed in favour of that Steel Hunter silliness. Frontline at least rewards some teamwork, SH is nothing but hide and seek with ridiculous RNG.

Edited by Puszka_Drynia, 13 February 2020 - 04:32 PM.


parim1331 #46 Posted 13 February 2020 - 04:24 PM

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View PostBodyGuardOfLies, on 13 February 2020 - 02:26 PM, said:

Steel hunter is a crap mode but I will be forced to play it if I want the second tank. 

 

Personally I would only play it if it would be fun for myself. No reason to force yourself! :)

 

View Postwolfsrain, on 13 February 2020 - 02:50 PM, said:

As i've feared: far worse rewards. My eyes (as bad as they are) did not deceived me. 

 

To give you a bit of context in regards to the rewards. This year we're planning a lot of events, and other interesting activities(Ones that I cannot speak about as of yet since they're not announced), which are going to fill up the calendar with more interesting rewards. 



Truntea #47 Posted 13 February 2020 - 04:24 PM

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Airstrike getting boosted? And at the same time it get a shorter cooldown? :facepalm:

Zoggo_ #48 Posted 13 February 2020 - 04:46 PM

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I believe Steel Hunter this year wont have that dumb mechanic where you can lose chevrons in a bad game so that's a plus.

 

Rewards in Frontlines meh but tbh I only played it for credit making. So long as WG don't nerf the credit income I'm ok with rewards.

 

This worries me - . "This time, players on the attacking team will have up to 4 dynamic respawn points to choose from, and the defending team up to 6, including those behind the front lines." 

So if I'm defending I can jump in my EBR and cause mayhem behind the front lines. Think EBR were broken last Frontline just wait til this happens.

 

Seems they have realised Zones B and C were broken, let's hope Wg have balanced them better.



UNFAIR_GAME_8 #49 Posted 13 February 2020 - 04:46 PM

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no gold this years ? just more crap and little bonds for bad tanks tier 10 in store ?

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nighthawk24 #50 Posted 13 February 2020 - 04:52 PM

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So now grind is less painful and less rewarding.

Now I cant make any gold, I make a little amount of bonds....

I was waiting for frontline to make some gold and bonds but instead I will make credits and tank/tanks.

 

Last Frontline I was Prestige (between 7 and 9) by playing only 3-4 months.

I was hoping for this year to make maximum level by playing less time per month but more months and get some gold and many bonds + tank/tanks. What a dream :sceptic:


Edited by nighthawk24, 13 February 2020 - 04:54 PM.


adameitas #51 Posted 13 February 2020 - 04:53 PM

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looks worse. So if i lets say play first 5 days of stage reach level 13 and then something happends and i cant play next two days i loose  possibility to get one tank??? And next stage i will start from 0?? Wtf....

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View Postadameitas, on 13 February 2020 - 03:53 PM, said:

looks worse. So if i lets say play first 5 days of stage reach level 13 and then something happends and i cant play next two days i loose  possibility to get one tank??? And next stage i will start from 0?? Wtf....

You will get 2 tokens for reaching level 13 and you will need to play Steel Hunter to get one tank...As I understood.



Vlad_250 #53 Posted 13 February 2020 - 05:00 PM

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Rewards seem to be truly pathetic, especially because there's no gold and much less bonds, which I personally value the most. Swapping the Prestige points for gold and bonds was also a good feature, don't know why they abandoned that... But with all these new changes tested in Sandbox, this is no surprise for me. Not sure this year will turn out good for this game. Disappointing. 

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View Postnighthawk24, on 13 February 2020 - 03:56 PM, said:

You will get 2 tokens for reaching level 13 and you will need to play Steel Hunter to get one tank...As I understood.


 yup but if i miss at least one stage i insta miss one tank.. you cant earn more then 3 tokens on next stage.. its is so...



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View PostZoggo_, on 13 February 2020 - 04:46 PM, said:

I believe Steel Hunter this year wont have that dumb mechanic where you can lose chevrons in a bad game so that's a plus.

 

Rewards in Frontlines meh but tbh I only played it for credit making. So long as WG don't nerf the credit income I'm ok with rewards.

 

This worries me - . "This time, players on the attacking team will have up to 4 dynamic respawn points to choose from, and the defending team up to 6, including those behind the front lines." 

So if I'm defending I can jump in my EBR and cause mayhem behind the front lines. Think EBR were broken last Frontline just wait til this happens.

 

Seems they have realised Zones B and C were broken, let's hope Wg have balanced them better.

 

As far as I know, those exact two sites were rebalanced.

 

Also, for the FL mode, besides the rewards, one can always play it for enjoyment! :)



SlyMeerkat #56 Posted 13 February 2020 - 05:04 PM

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Very nice, looking forward to it :)

UntouchableRo #57 Posted 13 February 2020 - 05:14 PM

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Lame rewards.... and that "Only for players who have the maximum Frontline Tier" missions is as lame as the rewards overall! Was fun last year but now i'm afraid you nerfed it to the max!

L0rd_0f_War #58 Posted 13 February 2020 - 05:17 PM

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Thank you for the new FL season. But just 4 weeks this year?? and if we miss a week we can't catch up on the lost stage progress. This is a big step backwards. WG, please reconsider this decision and allow people to play and enjoy their favourite, and in my opinion the best mode in WOT by far, throughout the year. FL is the only reason I still play this game after 10 years, and only reason why I spent money to buy Tier 8 Premiums. What else do I need a garage full of Tier 8 premiums for. FL is where I get to use a number of my T8 premiums, and also enjoy a far better and far less frustrating and toxic mode. I don't want more rewards (maybe some tier 8 premiums instead of dead-end T9 rewards like last year), but more opportunity to play Fl this year. Don't take away FL for SH. Let SH be its own thing and let us have FL. Thank you.

Jumping_Turtle #59 Posted 13 February 2020 - 05:22 PM

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View PostsgtPompom, on 13 February 2020 - 03:43 PM, said:

 

I played it for both, but trying to get the AE phase I made me play it wayyyy more than I would have only for fun XD

 

 

Same here. So that is why I already have decided that I will only go for 1 tank. Have the Phase also, so it will be the Futur or the 277. Will not try for both since that takes away all the fun and make it feel like work.

All other rewards I get along the way are a bonus.

 

Getting one tank for some fun other modes seems like a good deal for me and doesnt make me play when I kinda dont want to.



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So bad. Just 4 weeks instead of 10 last year.

Hope for a permanent FL mod in the future, and maybe T9 and T10 FL. Better than random.






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