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A Big Reputation and Even Bigger Guns: Object 252U & Defender


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woolfie #101 Posted 17 February 2020 - 12:35 PM

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View PostGardar7, on 17 February 2020 - 08:09 AM, said:

 

I bought my 252U because Defender was not on sale. Although I admit that I don't know if Defender was on sale before. 

But according to customer support, they can't change it because "Defender is an entirely different vehicle". :unsure:

 

They are different vehicles in WG files.

 

You can own both and they have seperate stats for each.

 

If you had played 0 battles in the tank WG possibly could have swapped it for you.

 

But if you have played it you are stuck with it.

 

You can get skins that change the appearance in some modpacks I think, that might suit you?



jullebarge #102 Posted 17 February 2020 - 03:02 PM

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I need some premium time and was considering buying the bundle with Defender and some golds as it seems a good value. But I'm not sure I'll like/play this premium. Is it any good for FL ? I already have the Obj 703 II, is it worth it to have Defender ?

parim1331 #103 Posted 17 February 2020 - 03:30 PM

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View PostMaroko_1337, on 15 February 2020 - 06:27 AM, said:

Why is it not possible to add several items in a cart instead of buying an item one by one in the premium shop ?

 

The regular shop is now more appealing than the black market. Good job WG to make one of your great idea irrelevant

 

Well, Black Market is supposed to bring out rarest vehicles, 252u was never considered to be one.

 

View PostTheArk_2014, on 15 February 2020 - 11:28 AM, said:

LOL ... Guys, take a decision ... This tank is OP or Crap?

 

Half of you say it is OP and the other half that it is Crap ... but ... it cannot be both.

 

:coin:

 

 

Looks like we have a case of Schrodinger's Defender. :)

 

View PostGruff_, on 15 February 2020 - 04:25 PM, said:

These overarmoured idiot proof tanks with much better pen than a lot of tech tree tanks are bad for overall game balance.

 

I certainly wouldn't call it "idiot-proof", as with every tank, it's extremely easy to be blown up because of simple mistakes. Same goes for defender, should you angle yourself slightly off, or try to go over a hill to reach your enemy, you can have bad time. All comes down to the play style.



DiabloD #104 Posted 17 February 2020 - 03:37 PM

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Would you guys recommend this or the Lowe ? I am talking strictly about fun to play and credit making. I tried the Lowe on the test server but can't try this one

vixu #105 Posted 17 February 2020 - 03:50 PM

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View PostDiabloD, on 17 February 2020 - 03:37 PM, said:

Would you guys recommend this or the Lowe ? I am talking strictly about fun to play and credit making. I tried the Lowe on the test server but can't try this one

I think, as far as heavy goes, defender is better. Crazy-sloped armor makes it very hard to pen from a distance. Löwe is a fridge on tracks with a better gun, compared to this one, imho.



predator25alex #106 Posted 17 February 2020 - 03:57 PM

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Were can i find the discount coupon? a link pls

 



Baleroon #107 Posted 17 February 2020 - 04:30 PM

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View Postparim1331, on 17 February 2020 - 04:30 PM, said:

 

Well, Black Market is supposed to bring out rarest vehicles, 252u was never considered to be one.

 

Nice trolling ...  :trollface:

 

 

View PostDiabloD, on 17 February 2020 - 04:37 PM, said:

Would you guys recommend this or the Lowe ? I am talking strictly about fun to play and credit making. I tried the Lowe on the test server but can't try this one

 

Lowe is not about fun but about farming silver ...


Edited by Baleroon, 17 February 2020 - 04:31 PM.


Aiston #108 Posted 17 February 2020 - 04:41 PM

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WG proving yet again they don't give a [edited]about the players and how the game is. Money is the be all and end all, playing experience doesn't come into their head.

jullebarge #109 Posted 17 February 2020 - 04:50 PM

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View Postpredator25alex, on 17 February 2020 - 03:57 PM, said:

Were can i find the discount coupon? a link pls

 

https://tankrewards.eu/



Gruff_ #110 Posted 17 February 2020 - 05:09 PM

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View Postparim1331, on 17 February 2020 - 02:30 PM, said:

 

I certainly wouldn't call it "idiot-proof", as with every tank, it's extremely easy to be blown up because of simple mistakes. Same goes for defender, should you angle yourself slightly off, or try to go over a hill to reach your enemy, you can have bad time. All comes down to the play style.

The Defender and Obj 252 allow for more mistakes, and have many combined stats better than other same tier heavies in the tech tree.  You can't really defend that position, tanks like these the Obj279e, the obj430u are not good for overall game balance, the introduction of some of these tanks makes many others somewhat obsolete and also fuels the problem you are now trying to correct of gold spam.


Edited by Gruff_, 17 February 2020 - 05:10 PM.


Weak_man #111 Posted 17 February 2020 - 09:41 PM

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View PostGruff_, on 17 February 2020 - 06:09 PM, said:

The Defender and Obj 252 allow for more mistakes, and have many combined stats better than other same tier heavies in the tech tree.  You can't really defend that position, tanks like these the Obj279e, the obj430u are not good for overall game balance, the introduction of some of these tanks makes many others somewhat obsolete and also fuels the problem you are now trying to correct of gold spam.

 

So manny battles with zero bloked damage and dead with 252u. Tell to tier X heat how defender bounce



Draconic #112 Posted 17 February 2020 - 10:41 PM

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View PostDiabloD, on 17 February 2020 - 03:37 PM, said:

Would you guys recommend this or the Lowe ? I am talking strictly about fun to play and credit making. I tried the Lowe on the test server but can't try this one

I have both tanks and personally prefer Lowe. It's slower and not very flexible, but it's a hull-down monster with laser accuracy. I feel more confident with it in tier 9 and 10 battles, compared to the Defender. Not that Def is bad, especially if you prefer aggressive play. Just be prepared to miss houses sometimes.



Gruff_ #113 Posted 18 February 2020 - 12:57 AM

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View PostWeak_man, on 17 February 2020 - 08:41 PM, said:

 

So manny battles with zero bloked damage and dead with 252u. Tell to tier X heat how defender bounce


I'm talking about standard ammo - of course there aren't many tier 8's that will stand up to tier 10 gold spam that is a silly comparison



Weak_man #114 Posted 18 February 2020 - 07:42 AM

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View PostGruff_, on 18 February 2020 - 01:57 AM, said:


I'm talking about standard ammo - of course there aren't many tier 8's that will stand up to tier 10 gold spam that is a silly comparison

 

Dedender and 252U are nice looking tanks. I use 252U for missions and in frontline when attacking for base capture. Even for bloking missions against tier 6 i consider that VK 100 (tier 8 german tech three heavy)  is the best.

Gun handling on defender is extremly bad even from close range


Edited by Weak_man, 18 February 2020 - 07:42 AM.


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You have no shame arent you?

StinkyCamper #116 Posted 18 February 2020 - 09:49 AM

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Monday is hangover day. If is nothing for today i assume tomorrow is the next update. 

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Cosijeaaak #117 Posted 18 February 2020 - 01:33 PM

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Not saying this tank is bad. But i absolutely hate it. I am doing something wrong. When i play the defender i feel like i have cotton armor. When i am shooting defenders Stalin says a big fat NO in to my face. But the worst thing about this tank is the gun handling which is just terrible for me.

Inappropriate_noob #118 Posted 19 February 2020 - 07:44 PM

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View Postenv1ro, on 15 February 2020 - 10:30 AM, said:

Does it worth to buy Tankers?  What about earnings?

Get it,,don't hesitate, the ones who already have it will tell not to,the same one who will slim your stats,and to increase your stats just load the gold and hang back:trollface:



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View Postparim1331, on 17 February 2020 - 02:30 PM, said:

 

Well, Black Market is supposed to bring out rarest vehicles, 252u was never considered to be one.

 

wait, So lansen C's, 183's, Caer AXs are rare? :amazed:



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I jsut got a WG 30% off cupon that applies to everything and they finally made it buy this thing..

 

All I can say is that it IS INDEED OP ! Stop defending it. Defender is 100% OP. You do bad in it only if you are brain dead but if you know how to press W and mouse button then you will do fine in it.

 

It has tier 9/10 hull, it has one of the best guns of tier 8 heavies with 440 alpha and 225 standard pen that is enough to be dangerous even against tier 10's. The gun handling is not bad at all is your standard soviet gun handling not sure why u complain, sometimes you don't even need to aim and shot get where you want to go. What do you want more from a tank ? Oh yeah mobility is also pretty good, I mean it is standard heavy tank mobility way faster than alot of less armored tanks.

 






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