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Zmago5000 #1 Posted 16 February 2020 - 08:14 PM

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What do you think, is the outbreak calming down or have  we just uncovered the top of the iceberg?

Edited by Zmago5000, 16 February 2020 - 08:14 PM.


OIias_of_Sunhillow #2 Posted 16 February 2020 - 08:18 PM

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Like the thick end of the edge.

 

My Type 59 crew have buggered off.  And my WZ-120-1G FT crew, don't look so rosey. 



xx984 #3 Posted 16 February 2020 - 08:36 PM

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jack_timber #4 Posted 17 February 2020 - 12:25 PM

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I have stopped playing Chinese tanks, well you can't be to carefull ...

The_Naa #5 Posted 17 February 2020 - 12:45 PM

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my Chinese crews are well and healthy, medicalcare is top notch.

also i wear a Gas mask so i have no fear of any viruses. :)



samuelx43a #6 Posted 17 February 2020 - 01:02 PM

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View PostZmago5000, on 16 February 2020 - 08:14 PM, said:

What do you think, is the outbreak calming down or have  we just uncovered the top of the iceberg?

the chinese are not staying idle...

they constructed a hospital in 10 days specifically for the outbreak.

 

Meanwhile back in good ol' spain, it takes two years to lay a foundation and do the rough draft of a house



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And I just invested heavily in the tier 6 TD! :ohmy::trollface:

Zmago5000 #8 Posted 24 February 2020 - 08:38 AM

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no need to joke about this,..virus its closing on us its in Italy aolready :(

Edited by Zmago5000, 24 February 2020 - 08:38 AM.


jack_timber #9 Posted 24 February 2020 - 10:03 AM

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Yes it seems to be getting closer but joke or worry will not make any difference and, it is said, laughter is the best medicine.

Zmago5000 #10 Posted 24 February 2020 - 01:12 PM

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View Postjack_timber, on 24 February 2020 - 10:03 AM, said:

...laughter is the best medicine.

 

the best and only medicine :(

 

If they shut down my city for 14 days I can make a burlesque challenge :B



Nishi_Kinuyo #11 Posted 24 February 2020 - 06:22 PM

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It'll depend a lot on how people will handle Covid-19, tbh.

If they cooperate with authorities/medical personnel, then everything should turn out all right.

If they escape quarantine like that Russian woman, then it might become a tad of a problem.

 

Incidentally, I just got started on the China HT line...



AngelofAwe #12 Posted 24 February 2020 - 07:05 PM

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Calming down? It's looking more like the beginning stages of a pandemic.

I've been following it daily ever since it was first reported because weird things like this intrigue and interest me.
It's unlikely it's even possible to stop it, it's far too contagious and the now confirmed facts that it is spread by asymptomatic people as well as in the form of aerosolization makes it very near impossible to stop, unlike for example SARS which was only contagious when the patient was showing symptoms.

It's much more difficult to stop something you're spreading while unaware of being infected. Mere containment isn't going to work since you're already a step behind the virus at that point.
No, it's looking more and more likely that it will make a global wave and eventually become one of the normal influenza strains that travel through the communities every year.
Currently we have no vaccine for SARS-CoV-2 and no inherent immunity as it's a new strain, but that will change over time.

All that said, it's not like the virus is very dangerous for younger, healthy people.
The only issue with it is the high rate of severe cases which will overload the medical system of every nation if it becomes a true widespread pandemic.

It's also not possible to keep up these quarantines of entire cities in the long run, the economy is going to fall apart as the supply chains (especially from China) are slowing down. It's already reaching a critical time when they will have to choose to either sacrifice the economy or the people. 

Take it as it comes, do what you can to avoid getting sick but don't fret too much if you do. It's not the end of the world. 
Even in a worst case scenario, this isn't as bad as the Spanish flu was. 

Edited by AngelofAwe, 24 February 2020 - 07:08 PM.


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View PostAngelofAwe, on 24 February 2020 - 07:05 PM, said:

Calming down? It's looking more like the beginning stages of a pandemic.

 

But Donald Trump said it was "under control".

 

View PostAngelofAwe, on 24 February 2020 - 07:05 PM, said:

All that said, it's not like the virus is very dangerous for younger, healthy people.
The only issue with it is the high rate of severe cases which will overload the medical system of every nation if it becomes a true widespread pandemic.

 

There are 3 variants of it. We have the nicest one confirmed on 5 people here in our nation, as did our neighbors earlier today. The 3rd variant that usually appears on older people, that also goes for the lungs. That's the killer. And yes it's the hospitals overloading their capacity they do fear. As my girlfriend is a nurse. And they already had a briefing on it. The biggest fear they have atm, is the protective gear and how long it will last. As supplies for atm is spread thin.

 

But, on a good note. The rate of contamination is slowing down in China at least. Less so here for now.

 


Edited by Balc0ra, 27 February 2020 - 01:53 AM.


AngelofAwe #14 Posted 15 March 2020 - 07:34 PM

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View PostAngelofAwe, on 24 February 2020 - 08:05 PM, said:

Calming down? It's looking more like the beginning stages of a pandemic.

I've been following it daily ever since it was first reported because weird things like this intrigue and interest me.
It's unlikely it's even possible to stop it, it's far too contagious and the now confirmed facts that it is spread by asymptomatic people as well as in the form of aerosolization makes it very near impossible to stop, unlike for example SARS which was only contagious when the patient was showing symptoms.

It's much more difficult to stop something you're spreading while unaware of being infected. Mere containment isn't going to work since you're already a step behind the virus at that point.
No, it's looking more and more likely that it will make a global wave and eventually become one of the normal influenza strains that travel through the communities every year.
Currently we have no vaccine for SARS-CoV-2 and no inherent immunity as it's a new strain, but that will change over time.

All that said, it's not like the virus is very dangerous for younger, healthy people.
The only issue with it is the high rate of severe cases which will overload the medical system of every nation if it becomes a true widespread pandemic.

It's also not possible to keep up these quarantines of entire cities in the long run, the economy is going to fall apart as the supply chains (especially from China) are slowing down. It's already reaching a critical time when they will have to choose to either sacrifice the economy or the people. 

Take it as it comes, do what you can to avoid getting sick but don't fret too much if you do. It's not the end of the world. 
Even in a worst case scenario, this isn't as bad as the Spanish flu was. 




So far so good on these predictions 3 weeks later. 



Captain_Kremen0 #15 Posted 16 March 2020 - 12:14 PM

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Here in England It's Keep Calm and Sing Happy Birthday.

Zmago5000 #16 Posted 16 March 2020 - 01:17 PM

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In Slovenia we are closed: public life closed, buses, trains, planes  stoped, pubs, fitnesses, museums, stores (except food&pharmacie) closed,  borders closed.

Just waiting for my job to close (not much sense of comming to work if there is no material in and goods out of the country) ,.... will happen probably before the end of the week :(...what then: GOD HELP US


Edited by Zmago5000, 16 March 2020 - 01:18 PM.


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View PostAngelofAwe, on 15 March 2020 - 06:34 PM, said:




So far so good on these predictions 3 weeks later. 


Generally agree but I do have a slight issue with the sentiment around you’re be fine if you’re young and healthy. When you start scaling up the fatality rate to large percentages of the population then figures are pretty awful.


Edited by jabster, 16 March 2020 - 01:33 PM.


AngelofAwe #18 Posted 16 March 2020 - 03:14 PM

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View Postjabster, on 16 March 2020 - 02:32 PM, said:


Generally agree but I do have a slight issue with the sentiment around you’re be fine if you’re young and healthy. When you start scaling up the fatality rate to large percentages of the population then figures are pretty awful.


Indeed, that is why I avoided any such sentiment and only said it's "not very dangerous" for young and healthy people. That does not mean it's free from risk.
There are plenty of younger people who get severe pneumonia and are in the ICUs of countries with large scale outbreaks. Apparently there are patients down to 16 years old that have been intubated in the Netherlands and Italy, at least if my sources are accurate.

These cases are rare compared to the elderly but merely being young with no comorbidities does not mean you will automatically breeze through it.
However, if you're young the larger risk still remains that you spread it to somebody who will fare far worse than you. 

My predictions of what's coming in the next 2-3 months are 'pretty bleak' to go with an understatement but I'm not sure if sharing information that may or may not eventually prove to be correct and only instills fear with no solutions is helpful.
I really do wish people would understand to take it seriously while there is still time though. There are too many "it's just a flu" people still around.

I can share this though:

 

Spoiler

 


Edited by AngelofAwe, 16 March 2020 - 03:19 PM.


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View PostAngelofAwe, on 16 March 2020 - 02:14 PM, said:


Indeed, that is why I avoided any such sentiment and only said it's "not very dangerous" for young and healthy people. That does not mean it's free from risk.
There are plenty of younger people who get severe pneumonia and are in the ICUs of countries with large scale outbreaks. Apparently there are patients down to 16 years old that have been intubated in the Netherlands and Italy, at least if my sources are accurate.

These cases are rare compared to the elderly but merely being young with no comorbidities does not mean you will automatically breeze through it.
However, if you're young the larger risk still remains that you spread it to somebody who will fare far worse than you. 

My predictions of what's coming in the next 2-3 months are 'pretty bleak' to go with an understatement but I'm not sure if sharing information that may or may not eventually prove to be correct and only instills fear with no solutions is helpful.
I really do wish people would understand to take it seriously while there is still time though. There are too many "it's just a flu" people still around.

I can share this though:

 

Spoiler

 


Again generally agree and I feel that the point I was levelling at you, which I now believe isn’t your position, is that if you’r young and healthy then you don’t need to worry. 


Edited by jabster, 16 March 2020 - 03:27 PM.


Zmago5000 #20 Posted 23 March 2020 - 07:29 PM

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fight corona with humor

 

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