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Calix_cat #1 Posted 17 February 2020 - 02:30 PM

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Hi all, some advice from the community, please. I've unlocked both Chinese tier 10 heavies and bought the 5A as I loved the play style of the WZ111 tier 9.

Now I see that the 113 is going to leave the tech tree in the new Balance. Should I buy it now or wait until after it's removed? Thoughts and ideas welcome!

PS> I haven't played my tier 10s much as recently bought 8 tier 10s after Xmas grind (thank you WG!) and have unlocked the Grille & 60TP. Just working on the Strv really. 

So i need 3 x 6.1m credits and only have just under 6m right now (can make 1m per 2 hours when play with premiums). 

When do we think Balance likely to arrive? Will we know beforehand about those tier 6-10 "Vehicles from Tiers VI–X will not leave the game—you will still be able to get them in the future, and we will get into all the details regarding this at a later date. If you have any of these vehicles in your Garage, they will remain there"

 

Thanks in advance, team!



The_Naa #2 Posted 17 February 2020 - 02:35 PM

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try to get all the tanks that you want before they are removed.

or you run the risk of WG asking for huge amount of Credits or Gold for them on Black Market or similar.



undutchable80 #3 Posted 17 February 2020 - 02:47 PM

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If you have it unlocked, I would wait until there is a discount before buying it. The date of the patch will get announced at some point, so even if there are no discounts up til then, you can buy it the evening before the update goes live. 

mjs_89 #4 Posted 17 February 2020 - 02:54 PM

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View PostCalix_cat, on 17 February 2020 - 02:30 PM, said:

When do we think Balance likely to arrive?

 

In one of the official videos there was a calendar with 4 scheduled phases of supertests, the last one being in october/november this year. So tbh it wouldn't surprise me if new balance comes as late as christmas. Therefore, I'll do exactly what undutchable said, unlock everything that'll be removed and buy when discounts come around.



Balc0ra #5 Posted 17 February 2020 - 03:02 PM

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View Postmjs_89, on 17 February 2020 - 02:54 PM, said:

In one of the official videos there was a calendar with 4 scheduled phases of supertests, the last one being in october/november this year. 

Those 4 listed were the tests they did last year. To test the HP and ammo changes etc on their own.

 

But even so I doubt it will be the last test this year, nor something coming soon. So I would wait on getting it. As anything is still subject to change. They might even go for the 140 vs the 62 due to all the raging on the RU forum. So I'm not buying anything until the changes makes it to CT.



mateyflip #6 Posted 17 February 2020 - 03:07 PM

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Excuse me for the butt in, but is there a full list of vehicles that will be removed/ changed etc.

 

If so would you be so kind to post a link.

 

Thank you 

 

 

What what



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View Postmateyflip, on 17 February 2020 - 03:07 PM, said:

Excuse me for the butt in, but is there a full list of vehicles that will be removed/ changed etc.

 

https://thearmoredpatrol.com/2020/02/11/world-of-tanks-the-new-balance-all-removed-tanks-tank-changes-and-new-tanks/

 

Not sure how accurate that list is on lower tiers, since it's missing the Pz 1C wich, according to what I heard before, should get booted out of the tech-tree, but on higher tiers it's pretty good imo.

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View PostBalc0ra, on 17 February 2020 - 03:02 PM, said:

 

Those 4 listed were the tests they did last year. To test the HP and ammo changes etc on their own.

 

But even so I doubt it will be the last test this year, nor something coming soon. So I would wait on getting it. As anything is still subject to change. They might even go for the 140 vs the 62 due to all the raging on the RU forum. So I'm not buying anything until the changes makes it to CT.

 

Looks like you're right, scrap what I said earlier. Looks like I'll have to grind a bit faster then.


Edited by mjs_89, 17 February 2020 - 03:31 PM.


SastusBulbas #8 Posted 17 February 2020 - 03:32 PM

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I have a complete lack of credits, even lacking gold these days just wasting it willy nilly as there is never anything worthwhile for us old players to spend it on.

 

I just bought the E3, I am currently grinding the French tier 10 AMX 30, have already unlocked the 113. So need around 12 mill credits. My lad is currently trying to grind a few too before they get removed, though I dont think there is any need to rush, I myself am prone to taking breaks or forgetting such stuff so may well want to secure it soonish.

 

As Balc0ra said though, it's all propossed hence the sandbox testing, it may get tweaked or changed, though I have a feeling the tech tree changes are finalized.



Nikka_Katajainen #9 Posted 17 February 2020 - 03:34 PM

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113 is the only Tier 10 I currently have (like it a lot btw, even if it's a poor man's Object 430U) so wether it becomes a premium or not is irrelevant, but I wish WG told us a bit more about these splits, removals, wether there will be any form of compensation, and so on.


I guess they'll tell us when the "New Balance" changes will be greenlit and given a release date?

 

tl;dr - If you want the tank and can afford it, go for it.


Edited by pihip, 17 February 2020 - 03:36 PM.


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View PostCalix_cat, on 17 February 2020 - 01:30 PM, said:

Hi all, some advice from the community, please. I've unlocked both Chinese tier 10 heavies and bought the 5A as I loved the play style of the WZ111 tier 9.

Now I see that the 113 is going to leave the tech tree in the new Balance. Should I buy it now or wait until after it's removed? Thoughts and ideas welcome!

PS> I haven't played my tier 10s much as recently bought 8 tier 10s after Xmas grind (thank you WG!) and have unlocked the Grille & 60TP. Just working on the Strv really. 

So i need 3 x 6.1m credits and only have just under 6m right now (can make 1m per 2 hours when play with premiums). 

When do we think Balance likely to arrive? Will we know beforehand about those tier 6-10 "Vehicles from Tiers VI–X will not leave the game—you will still be able to get them in the future, and we will get into all the details regarding this at a later date. If you have any of these vehicles in your Garage, they will remain there"

 

Thanks in advance, team!

 

They havent even released what they said they would for 2019.... i take all this with a pinch of salt to be fair.

 



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View PostThe_Naa, on 17 February 2020 - 02:35 PM, said:

try to get all the tanks that you want before they are removed.

 

 

once again I repeat, this sandbox test is not definitive, and even before it becomes there is a high probability that the whole test will be thrown into the waste bin



The_Naa #12 Posted 17 February 2020 - 04:23 PM

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View PostValkyrionX, on 17 February 2020 - 04:19 PM, said:

 

once again I repeat, this sandbox test is not definitive, and even before it becomes there is a high probability that the whole test will be thrown into the waste bin

 

either way its a win win imo. :)



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View PostThe_Naa, on 17 February 2020 - 04:23 PM, said:

 

either way its a win win imo. :)

 

yes, because also in the horrible game meta that we have on wot the 113 still a very nice tank



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View Postpihip, on 17 February 2020 - 03:34 PM, said:

wether there will be any form of compensation, and so on.

 

The compensation is that you get a tier X turned into a free crew trainer. As with the 183, Foch 155, or even the FV 215b. No other compensation was given. Only time they have compensated anything was when they removed the top engine from the E50. The only compensation they have talked about is if you have yet to unlock the 113 but for instance, have 6 blueprints parts on it.

 

View PostCeeb, on 17 February 2020 - 03:45 PM, said:

They havent even released what they said they would for 2019.... i take all this with a pinch of salt to be fair.

 

Most of these changes, inc the HP one were planned for 2019. But testing and bad feedback did push it back a bit. I suspect this will be no different on some aspects. Tbh I will be surprised if each of the changed tested will make it this year.



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View PostBalc0ra, on 17 February 2020 - 05:34 PM, said:

The only compensation they have talked about is if you have yet to unlock the 113 but for instance, have 6 blueprints parts on it.

 

Really? What compensation would we get for that?

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View PostValkyrionX, on 17 February 2020 - 04:19 PM, said:

 

once again I repeat, this sandbox test is not definitive, and even before it becomes there is a high probability that the whole test will be thrown into the waste bin

 

Don't get my hopes up ;)



Balc0ra #16 Posted 17 February 2020 - 06:00 PM

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View Postmjs_89, on 17 February 2020 - 05:54 PM, said:

 

Really? What compensation would we get for that?

 

National and universal prints ofc. So... nothing special.



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I would agree with most grind and unlock all you can. But if you have the credits spare ie say you need 6mill to unlock a tier 10 and you have way over 15-20 mill in credits no harm in buying it.

This way there is less to worry about as the time approaches and who knows how much notice wargaming will give. You do not need to rush purchase all of them in one go.



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The other thing to remember with any removed tanks is that unless you want to play them now , don't upgrade any of the modules either by researching or buying them, as when they become reward tanks they will be upgraded to the highest configuration for free.

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View PostHayton, on 17 February 2020 - 11:15 PM, said:

The other thing to remember with any removed tanks is that unless you want to play them now , don't upgrade any of the modules either by researching or buying them, as when they become reward tanks they will be upgraded to the highest configuration for free.

 

^This

 

I just bought T21 and kv-13 but I let them stock and now waiting for the patch to get them upgraded for free.



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View Postmateyflip, on 17 February 2020 - 02:07 PM, said:

Excuse me for the butt in, but is there a full list of vehicles that will be removed/ changed etc.

 

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View Postpihip, on 17 February 2020 - 02:34 PM, said:

wether there will be any form of compensation, and so on.

 

Compensation for what, exactly?






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