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Venom7000 #1 Posted 17 February 2020 - 05:47 PM

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I remembered my first wot YT video (back in 2015 if I'm not mistaking) that I watched was with FV201 (A45). And even back then the tank was very bad.
Looking at it on paper I cant see a single use or good thing about it. Whats the point of this premium tank?

Was this ever given a buff? Will this ever get a buff? :)

Edited by Venom7000, 17 February 2020 - 05:48 PM.


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Never buffed. Doubt it will be soon. It's not the worst premium. It's just "meh" more so than not. The only good thing about it is the turret armor if you can get on a ridgeline and use the ROF and gun depression. As that hull won't bounce even tier 5 guns. IMO, either give it a 20 pdr with the same DPM. Or buff the power to weight and top speed.



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View PostBalc0ra, on 17 February 2020 - 05:59 PM, said:

Never buffed. Doubt it will be soon. It's not the worst premium. It's just "meh" more so than not. The only good thing about it is the turret armor if you can get on a ridgeline and use the ROF and gun depression. As that hull won't bounce even tier 5 guns. IMO, either give it a 20 pdr with the same DPM. Or buff the power to weight and top speed.


I know right!? Ok I get the gun. Its nice.

  • A buff to alpha would be nice to something like 180 (just to offset that awful +/- dmg RNG).
  • OR give it 186 pen like other low pen guns got. 
  • OR give it some more engine grunt to be able to escape the tanks it cant hurt (which is like 80% of the tanks it will face)
  • OR maybe the best option/alternative to buffing. Limited MM. This thing has no chances vs tier 9 heavies and its too slow to even be relevant on the medium line.

 

For some dumb reason I like the tank. Its bad, rly rly bad. But I like it. I feel like no one would blame me for not carrying the team if I drive it. :teethhappy:

 

The tech tree variant looks nice but until WG decides if there will be any more tanks before tier 6 I will wait for the grind.


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StronkiTonki #5 Posted 17 February 2020 - 07:49 PM

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Wish it would get more accuracy and some more pen.

Would be more like the old Caernarvon, but on tier 7. I really like that back in the day.



Venom7000 #6 Posted 17 February 2020 - 08:39 PM

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View PostStronkiTonki, on 17 February 2020 - 07:49 PM, said:

Wish it would get more accuracy and some more pen.

Would be more like the old Caernarvon, but on tier 7. I really like that back in the day.

 

I recently stopped after eliting Achillies. Because the new balance changes are threatening my goal towards fv4005.

 

Now I am thinking of British HT line. The tech tree wariant 1 tier higher is way better than this a45.

 

I almost never see it in battle. Can someone who played for a long time tell me if this tank was good when gold ammo for for gold only?

 

I can imagine this tank now should be worth 50gold let alone 4800 gold 



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I like it, the pen does need a slight buff or at the very least the power to weight ratio.

 The A45 was released after gold ammo for credits and but before most of the power creep, the turret used to be much more effective especially with the view range (binos or optics) was to me more a updated FCM 50t but with a much lower profile similar play style, with a better camo rating ie more sneaky 

 Surprisingly I came across one last week on the enemy team whilst in a A45 myself, had to resort to firing HE at his commander hatch as he was trying to do what I was doing peeking over a ridge line in a slightly forward position where really a scout should be.

  Which is maybe the main way to play it more as a armoured scout with the very nice view range on a ridge line.

 

 Also before a lot of the map changes ie corridors was introduced on likes of Redshire etc..


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Venom7000 #8 Posted 17 February 2020 - 09:09 PM

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View PostTealo, on 17 February 2020 - 08:58 PM, said:

I like it, the pen does need a slight buff or at the very least the power to weight ratio.

 The A45 was released after gold ammo for credits and but before most of the power creep, the turret used to be much more effective especially with the view range (binos or optics) was to me more a updated FCM 50t but with a much lower profile similar play style, with a better camo rating ie more sneaky 

 Surprisingly I came across one last week on the enemy team whilst in a A45 myself, had to resort to firing HE at his commander hatch as he was trying to do what I was doing peeking over a ridge line in a slightly forward position where really a scout should be.

  Which is maybe the main way to play it more as a armoured scout with the very nice view range on a ridge line.

 

 Also before a lot of the map changes ie corridors was introduced on likes of Redshire etc..

 

TBH I would trade in my Tier 2 Premium Gendron wheeled tank, Sexton + Panther Bretagne for this tank. Thats 3 horrible tanks for just one mediocre one :D

 

The only decent tank I got from the 2020 lotboxes is VC Firefly


Edited by Venom7000, 17 February 2020 - 09:10 PM.


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I'd like it if was just a tiny bit better

Venom7000 #10 Posted 17 February 2020 - 10:03 PM

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off topic here. Do I have to wait for trade in event to happen again or this option is always possible?

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View PostVenom7000, on 17 February 2020 - 08:09 PM, said:

 

TBH I would trade in my Tier 2 Premium Gendron wheeled tank, Sexton + Panther Bretagne for this tank. Thats 3 horrible tanks for just one mediocre one :D

 

The only decent tank I got from the 2020 lotboxes is VC Firefly

 

Sexton and French Panther work well for me, and the Gendron is entertaining

I think "horrible" is a bit of a stretch

All of the various Tier 6 Panthers seem very effective to me



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View PostBulldog_Drummond, on 17 February 2020 - 10:11 PM, said:

 

Sexton and French Panther work well for me, and the Gendron is entertaining

I think "horrible" is a bit of a stretch

All of the various Tier 6 Panthers seem very effective to me

 

You are right. Horrible is a bit too much. They aren't to be fair. French panther for me is either touch too slow. And or the gun is not as accurate. Feel like I get a slow tank, zero armour and gun that misses more than it lands.

 

Sexton I just dont like. Simply because I despise artillery. And since my crew is not 100% (because WG was cheapskapes and didnt provide crew for tanks you get via boxes) with zero skills. It tends to miss a lot. 0.91 accuracy. With out splash its useless to me.

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Tier is too low for doing missions in Sexton. So Unless I can trade it in or sell it for gold. Its of no use to me :)



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View PostVenom7000, on 17 February 2020 - 10:33 PM, said:

 

You are right. Horrible is a bit too much. They aren't to be fair. French panther for me is either touch too slow. And or the gun is not as accurate. Feel like I get a slow tank, zero armour and gun that misses more than it lands.

 

Sexton I just dont like. Simply because I despise artillery. And since my crew is not 100% (because WG was cheapskapes and didnt provide crew for tanks you get via boxes) with zero skills. It tends to miss a lot. 0.91 accuracy. With out splash its useless to me.

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Tier is too low for doing missions in Sexton. So Unless I can trade it in or sell it for gold. Its of no use to me :)

 

I find I get decent results in my Tier 6 Panthers but I can see why you might not like them if you try and play them as normal mediums

One reason I like them is that they seem very historical.  The armour and gun can work very well if used as ranged snipers or hull down, and I have Steel Walls in them, and they have some exploit capability, but they don't like mixing it close up.



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View PostBulldog_Drummond, on 18 February 2020 - 12:19 AM, said:

 

I find I get decent results in my Tier 6 Panthers but I can see why you might not like them if you try and play them as normal mediums

One reason I like them is that they seem very historical.  The armour and gun can work very well if used as ranged snipers or hull down, and I have Steel Walls in them, and they have some exploit capability, but they don't like mixing it close up.

 

I too noticed that they are better as snipers. I dont take them as brawler meds on the battlefield. Its just that the French panther's gun is not co-operating with me much. Again full disclosure. My crew on it is ZERO skills and below 100% (Again thnx WG. Who needs crew for the tank they buy?). On paper Rammer, Vents + Optics can be a good tank (100% crew). 

VC Firefly on the other hand. Is much more co operating with me.

P.s- why does Tier 6 VC Firefly get option to mount V-stab and Tier 6 Panther doesnt?



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View Postshikaka9, on 18 February 2020 - 07:30 AM, said:

point: take money and laugh :teethhappy:

 

They should implement a feature in premium shop. Where when you buy a tank or something, they show you bellow what other people bought after they bought that item.

For A45 it should be a noose and chair.:D



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View PostVenom7000, on 18 February 2020 - 12:39 PM, said:

 

They should implement a feature in premium shop. Where when you buy a tank or something, they show you bellow what other people bought after they bought that item.

For A45 it should be a noose and chair.:D

They should record an audio of them laughing ... and after you buy stuff like A45 or TOG or similiar , it plays automatically at full  

volume :teethhappy:

 

 



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View Postshikaka9, on 18 February 2020 - 03:10 PM, said:

They should record an audio of them laughing ... and after you buy stuff like A45 or TOG or similiar , it plays automatically at full  

volume :teethhappy:

 

 


Hahahahahhahahahah!! :D

They replace the map music with that every time you load up in one of those. Also when you miss a fully aimed shot in them. 



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View PostVenom7000, on 17 February 2020 - 11:58 PM, said:

 

I too noticed that they are better as snipers. I dont take them as brawler meds on the battlefield. Its just that the French panther's gun is not co-operating with me much. Again full disclosure. My crew on it is ZERO skills and below 100% (Again thnx WG. Who needs crew for the tank they buy?). On paper Rammer, Vents + Optics can be a good tank (100% crew). 

VC Firefly on the other hand. Is much more co operating with me.

P.s- why does Tier 6 VC Firefly get option to mount V-stab and Tier 6 Panther doesnt?

 

This isn't actually unrealistic.  Later war US Shermans had primitive V-Stabs, and I don't think WW2 Germans had anything similar



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View PostBulldog_Drummond, on 18 February 2020 - 08:23 PM, said:

 

This isn't actually unrealistic.  Later war US Shermans had primitive V-Stabs, and I don't think WW2 Germans had anything similar


Yeah I saw a documentary about Shermans few weeks ago. But I cant imagine WG cares about historical accuracy anymore :D






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