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WindSplitter1 #1 Posted 17 February 2020 - 09:34 PM

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Since... y'know. It will get removed.

 

Low pen isn't a problem for me so as long as the gunhandling and accuracy are not a drag (which they don't seem to, but it's a russian tank...)



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since its getting removed, yes.
But i wouldnt play with it

WindSplitter1 #3 Posted 17 February 2020 - 10:04 PM

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View PostFlavortown, on 17 February 2020 - 08:55 PM, said:

since its getting removed, yes.
But i wouldnt play with it

 

Why?



Ratriq #4 Posted 17 February 2020 - 10:44 PM

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Yeah, I'm also wondering if it's worth it since I've never actually thought of or wanted to get it before but now when those 2 tanks are getting removed, I might speed grind though the AXM line just for the AMX 30s

8126Jakobsson #5 Posted 17 February 2020 - 11:06 PM

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If you are a collector of tier 10 tanks or something then sure, go for it. It's rather pointless to play though as it doesn't really offer anything that you can't find elsewhere and in a better package. Tier 9 is pretty nice. 

iVladyBoss #6 Posted 17 February 2020 - 11:08 PM

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It's worth getting, it's fun to play, shot near the gun mantlet always bounce (for me). 390 alpha with 6.5 reload, fast, good camo

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pointless tank when basically the tier 9 amx-30 is still better than it in tier 10's.

Enderman21 #8 Posted 18 February 2020 - 12:07 AM

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The most useless tier 10 medium. Mediocre armor, with big tumor on top of the turret. Mediocre gun depression of 8 degrees. Mediocre mobility (Leopard is faster). Horrifying penetration values on the gun (only 300mm with gold, gl against 279). The speed of the gold ammo which is HEAT, is one of the slowest shells that I have ever witnessed in the game. 

 

It can't take any role on the battlefield. Not a brawler because the armor is unreliable. Can't be a sniper either, because of the poor penetration and shell velocity. Can't fully take advantage of ridge lines because if you try to poke, they see your bucket on top of your turret before you even see them.

 

Only good things I can name are the DPM and somewhat okayish gun handling.

 

Totally not worth it unless you are fine with just owning it and letting it collect dust. It can't compete in the current meta.



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View PostRatriq, on 17 February 2020 - 10:44 PM, said:

Yeah, I'm also wondering if it's worth it since I've never actually thought of or wanted to get it before but now when those 2 tanks are getting removed, I might speed grind though the AXM line just for the AMX 30s

 

AMX 30B, 113, T-62A

I think you're missing one of those. On other news, russians seem to go ham over the T-62A, rumors are the 140 might get booted from the tech tree instead.

 

On topic: I finished the grind to the 30B yesterday. I will buy it once there's a discount on tier X but not play it until it's a reward tank. No point in wasting gold to train a crew for a tank that will be a reward tank soon. I also have the Leo wich seems to be superior in every way, so I'll stick to that for the time being.

 

As for other tanks getting removed, I plan to get them all. Why? Because according to the news you'll get the tank after them unlocked once the changes go live, wich means I'll get 5ish tanks from tier 7-9 completely for free (xp wise ofc), on top of a few new reward tanks that will turn up in the black market or bond shop at some point, with a outrageous price tag ofc.

 

I'm nearly done with that too, just have to grind through the JPanther, T-54 and the chinese line from tier 7 up. Then free xp some british garbage tanks and I'm good to go.

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Seems like I've forgotten about the russian arty that'll get removed. Not sure I want that though... Maybe if I get some good BP drops over the next couple weeks, who knows.


Edited by mjs_89, 18 February 2020 - 01:19 AM.


saurilian #10 Posted 18 February 2020 - 02:06 AM

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In my opinion AMX 30B is great. People crap on it alot because the gun can troll and it actually requires brain to play because of bad penetration for its tier. You always need to keep in mind your tank is made out of paper (so you don't get overconfident) and the penetration is not enough to go through front of many equal tier heavy tanks. AMX 30B needs improved rammer (you need to boost your DPM to flank effectively and support on brawls) and AMX 30p needs food (the accuracy is quite bad imo). For AMX 30B you want to load a little bit more "special" rounds than on AMX 30p as penetration doesn't change from tier IX to X. Don't listen to people that completly trash this tank. It needs some time and a bit different approach than mediums tanks. In my opinion - Both AMX 30p and 30B are very much worth getting.

Edited by saurilian, 18 February 2020 - 02:08 AM.


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View Postmjs_89, on 18 February 2020 - 01:11 AM, said:

Seems like I've forgotten about the russian arty that'll get removed. Not sure I want that though... Maybe if I get some good BP drops over the next couple weeks, who knows.

 

SU-14-1 is not mentioned by WG, or listed as one of the high tiers being removed. Nor listed as it turning into a reward tank. It's just gone on the new test.



gitgud_cannot #12 Posted 18 February 2020 - 06:00 AM

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i will re-buy it only when we get these changes on actual common test, dont rush getting any of tanks supposedly being removed, until you know for sure, they are going to do it, for now there is no need.

Edited by gitgud_cannot, 18 February 2020 - 06:02 AM.


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View Postsaurilian, on 18 February 2020 - 01:06 AM, said:

In my opinion AMX 30B is great. People crap on it alot because the gun can troll and it actually requires brain to play because of bad penetration for its tier. You always need to keep in mind your tank is made out of paper (so you don't get overconfident) and the penetration is not enough to go through front of many equal tier heavy tanks. AMX 30B needs improved rammer (you need to boost your DPM to flank effectively and support on brawls) and AMX 30p needs food (the accuracy is quite bad imo). For AMX 30B you want to load a little bit more "special" rounds than on AMX 30p as penetration doesn't change from tier IX to X. Don't listen to people that completly trash this tank. It needs some time and a bit different approach than mediums tanks. In my opinion - Both AMX 30p and 30B are very much worth getting.

From a person who doesn't even own the tank.... Just for record I bought it played 31 games in it , sold it soon after, really bad tier 10 medium.



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I'll be getting the Tier 9 with blueprints, only need 20K XP to unlock it still or something anyway. Soon the Batchat12t won't be going anywhere for me.

 

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View Postsaurilian, on 18 February 2020 - 01:06 AM, said:

In my opinion AMX 30B is great. People crap on it alot because the gun can troll and it actually requires brain to play because of bad penetration for its tier. You always need to keep in mind your tank is made out of paper (so you don't get overconfident) and the penetration is not enough to go through front of many equal tier heavy tanks. AMX 30B needs improved rammer (you need to boost your DPM to flank effectively and support on brawls) and AMX 30p needs food (the accuracy is quite bad imo). For AMX 30B you want to load a little bit more "special" rounds than on AMX 30p as penetration doesn't change from tier IX to X. Don't listen to people that completly trash this tank. It needs some time and a bit different approach than mediums tanks. In my opinion - Both AMX 30p and 30B are very much worth getting.

 

You don't even have a AMX30B on your account... And you have a 47% wr on your AMX prototype. Are you sure you want to be giving advice on this one?:hiding:



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View PostNeil_DaGrassSmokingTyson, on 18 February 2020 - 08:20 AM, said:

From a person who doesn't even own the tank.... Just for record I bought it played 31 games in it , sold it soon after, really bad tier 10 medium.

 

I play it alot on common tests because I very much enjoy it. I got the AMX 30p quite recently and I'm short of 50k exp left from AMX 30B


Edited by saurilian, 18 February 2020 - 11:39 AM.


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View PostWindSplitter1, on 17 February 2020 - 08:34 PM, said:

Since... y'know. It will get removed.

 

Low pen isn't a problem for me so as long as the gunhandling and accuracy are not a drag (which they don't seem to, but it's a russian tank...)

 

I've ground the AMX30B but not purchased it.   That tumour just stops me everytime I go to look at it.

 

I feel the Tier 9 is a sweet spot in the game, You generally have the tier 10 gun on a platform not that disimilar,  PTA is a great example which is the same only it has a better gun and gun handling.   Plus you get to see tier 7s. at tier 9.



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View Postbbmoose, on 18 February 2020 - 08:28 AM, said:

 

You don't even have a AMX30B on your account... And you have a 47% wr on your AMX prototype. Are you sure you want to be giving advice on this one?:hiding:

 

I mean, why not. I'm just giving my personal opinion, I don't need to prove that I'm entitled to my opinion, I'm free to share it and it's OP thing to decide if he wants to take it into consideration or not. I played quite alot of both in common test and I very much love them. I think OP might take different approach on those tanks hearing both "average" and "unicum" player perspective. The tank is judged quite harashly by unicums because they are tryhards and always playing the best tanks and spamming full gold in them. AMX 30B is good mix of everything and I don't think it should be shitten on so much. Please take into consideration that I'm fairly new player and I'm playing only 4 months. I can't really impact my games well enough to carry them but I can give my personal review about tank that I'm doing fairly average in. AMX30B is a good tank, although 30p performs better due to better MM. 



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View Postsaurilian, on 18 February 2020 - 10:48 AM, said:

 

I mean, why not. I'm just giving my personal opinion, I don't need to prove that I'm entitled to my opinion, I'm free to share it and it's OP thing to decide if he wants to take it into consideration or not. I played quite alot of both in common test and I very much love them. I think OP might take different approach on those tanks hearing both "average" and "unicum" player perspective. The tank is judged quite harashly by unicums because they are tryhards and always playing the best tanks and spamming full gold in them. AMX 30B is good mix of everything and I don't think it should be shitten on so much. Please take into consideration that I'm fairly new player and I'm playing only 4 months. I can't really impact my games well enough to carry them but I can give my personal review about tank that I'm doing fairly average in. AMX30B is a good tank, although 30p performs better due to better MM. 

 

Basing an opinion/advise on testserver experiences is not very credible though... Totally different environment to play in. People play careless and most of them are only spamming gold.

 

AMX30 at tier 9 is quite good, but I don't see a reason to get the 30B. I've unlocked it, but never bothered to buy it. It has nothing to go for. In every situation you can do better with another 105 mm Tier X medium.

 

However, there were plans to buff it, along with the STB1 changes. Those changes were cancelled for no particular reason. Maybe they will buff it when it's out of the tech tree. It's the only reason I can think of to buy the 30B.

 

 



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Is the gun soft stats worse than of type 61? I like the AMX30 a lot, but type 61 is far less fun with that derpy gun.




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