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Is Leopard PTA better than Leopard 1?


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saurilian #1 Posted 18 February 2020 - 02:30 AM

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I have one strong 5 skill crew that I want to share on T55A and one of Leopards. Which one is better and more worth it? I don't want to keep two because I'm not going to play two, they are too similar. Alot of people are claiming the Leopard PTA is stronger than Leopard 1 tier for tier. If you tried both, I'd love to hear your opinion :) 

Edited by saurilian, 18 February 2020 - 02:34 AM.


OohSpicy #2 Posted 18 February 2020 - 05:57 AM

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Hmmm Lets put it this way, It is easier to carry a tier 9 game in PTA than tier 10 game in Leopard 1 :)

gitgud_cannot #3 Posted 18 February 2020 - 05:59 AM

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Yes, because it gets the same gun one tier lower.

Cobra6 #4 Posted 18 February 2020 - 08:09 AM

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268 pen (or what the value is now) is always better on Tier 9 then it is on Tier 10.

 

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No brainer, Leo 1 is good, the pta as Tony would say is great.  For me a perfect example of a solid balanced tank in the game, you play it well it will reward you, you make 1 or 2 mistakes in it you're toast ands the fact it's got decent high standard pen in it means you really don't need to use prem ammo that much in it at all.

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Hammerhead20 #6 Posted 18 February 2020 - 09:36 AM

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I don't own Leopard 1 but I really love my Leopard PT A.

 

It's one of my favourite medium tanks.

 

It has one of the best base penetrations at tier IX (278 mm) + you will get even tier VII MM...



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View PostNeil_DaGrassSmokingTyson, on 18 February 2020 - 09:10 AM, said:

No brainer, Leo 1 is good, the pta as Tony would say is great.  For me a perfect example of a solid balanced tank in the game, you play it well it will reward you, you make 1 or 2 mistakes in it you're toast ands the fact it's got decent high standard pen in it means you really don't need to use prem ammo that much in it at all.

 

You don't have to, but if you can afford it, it's awesome! Even more faster shell (1600+ m/s) and 323 penetration is pure love at tier 9. :D



splash_time #8 Posted 18 February 2020 - 09:52 AM

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I haven't grinded this line, but the way you guys are talking about it makes me excited to grind it, tho I have M60, so should I grind it? ;)

saurilian #9 Posted 18 February 2020 - 11:29 AM

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View Postsplash_time, on 18 February 2020 - 09:52 AM, said:

I haven't grinded this line, but the way you guys are talking about it makes me excited to grind it, tho I have M60, so should I grind it? ;)

 

Leopards are beyond awesome at current state. If you're medium/light tank lover and you like your Progetto you should. You can test Leopard on common test right now

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View PostHammerhead20, on 18 February 2020 - 09:36 AM, said:

I don't own Leopard 1 but I really love my Leopard PT A.

 

It's one of my favourite medium tanks.

 

It has one of the best base penetrations at tier IX (278 mm) + you will get even tier VII MM...

 

Did you never bothered to grind it or what? 



Ceeb #10 Posted 18 February 2020 - 11:41 AM

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PTA is sublime, a great tank, I think the Scaley says it best tho. I watch Signal11th in his a lot and i've learned a lot.  The line of tanks was my first, just to real life experiences with the Leo when I was a kid.  I rushed the line.

 

Its my only tank with purple equipment in,  While I'm just a adverage player. this tank since the buff is outstanding, No BS armour profile, Good mobility. Great gun. Its one of those tanks you rarely need to hit the 2 key with. And I mean rarely.

 

Screwup in it.... you are toast.


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trispect #11 Posted 18 February 2020 - 12:03 PM

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This is what the tank can do when you go full gold and know what to do (4785 DpB): 

 

https://play4stats.com/wot/ru/user/Stanlox/tank/14865/



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View Posttrispect, on 18 February 2020 - 11:03 AM, said:

This is what the tank can do when you go full gold and know what to do (4785 DpB): 

 

https://play4stats.com/wot/ru/user/Stanlox/tank/14865/

 

Firing full gold is a waste.

 

and I'm a scrub with loadsamoney



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View PostCeeb, on 18 February 2020 - 01:20 PM, said:

 

Firing full gold is a waste.

 

and I'm a scrub with loadsamoney

Sure you don't have to but guess why some people still do it? Because they can.



hoveruss #14 Posted 18 February 2020 - 01:59 PM

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I'm appalling in the Leo, slightly less appalling in the PTA.

 

So. PTA is better. :)



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View Posttrispect, on 18 February 2020 - 11:03 AM, said:

This is what the tank can do when you go full gold and know what to do (4785 DpB): 

 

https://play4stats.com/wot/ru/user/Stanlox/tank/14865/

Never going to watch someone play the pta firing full gold when I three marked it using 95%standard... nothing impressive in that at all.


Edited by Neil_DaGrassSmokingTyson, 18 February 2020 - 02:32 PM.


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View Postsaurilian, on 18 February 2020 - 02:30 AM, said:

I have one strong 5 skill crew that I want to share on T55A and one of Leopards.

 

Leo pta crew + t55a.
TierX is pretty dumb and the monotier games kill it even more. Dont bother with Leo1 too much.



saurilian #17 Posted 18 February 2020 - 02:48 PM

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View PostThejagdpanther, on 18 February 2020 - 02:36 PM, said:

 

Leo pta crew + t55a.
TierX is pretty dumb and the monotier games kill it even more. Dont bother with Leo1 too much.

 

I also played a couple of battles and Leopard PTA with food is just beautiful. I think I'll get Leo 1 as well, I'm just gonna put stronger crew in tier IX. Thanks alot!



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Short answer: ye
Long answer: absolutely is better.

trispect #19 Posted 18 February 2020 - 03:42 PM

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View PostNeil_DaGrassSmokingTyson, on 18 February 2020 - 03:30 PM, said:

Never going to watch someone play the pta firing full gold when I three marked it using 95%standard... nothing impressive in that at all.

He doing in average 2000 damage per battle more than you is not impressive? That's a difference that's not because of gold ammo. I really recommend checking out that guy if you want to learn some tricks. I think that's the best player across all the servers. Or at least I haven't found better one. 



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View Posttrispect, on 18 February 2020 - 02:42 PM, said:

He doing in average 2000 damage per battle more than you is not impressive? That's a difference that's not because of gold ammo. I really recommend checking out that guy if you want to learn some tricks. I think that's the best player across all the servers. Or at least I haven't found better one. 

Of course but meh full gold.. plus my averages are always down because I played all these tanks when I was pretty poor and a newish player, when I marked it I was averaging between 3.5-5k+ per game with standard, I'm not knocking the guy as 4.5K+ damage per game is fantastic and they are probbaly a much better player overall than I ever will be but if I went full prem with the pta I imagine I wouldn;t be far off that after 50 games. 

 

I know I'm probably out of meta these days but I find someone going full prem in a tank when it's not really needed somewhat underwhelming as I'm still from the days when weakspots and learning where to shoot still matters. If he did that with mostly standard ammo with the odd bit of prem thrown in I would indeed be very impressed.


Edited by Neil_DaGrassSmokingTyson, 18 February 2020 - 04:02 PM.





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