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Storm_666 #1 Posted 20 February 2020 - 04:26 PM

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Hello,

I've encountered a few team members that told me they've been experiencing the same micro lag spikes that I have been starting this morning. Not a huge issue, but it makes playing anything that requires precision rather frustrating. 
Has anyone else been experiencing these?
Has WG said anything regarding them, and is this issue being worked on?

MPV_11 #2 Posted 20 February 2020 - 04:59 PM

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Me too for the last week



jack_timber #3 Posted 20 February 2020 - 05:00 PM

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Yes micro lags also and here's me blaming wife/grandkids for hogging all the bandwidth....

Storm_666 #4 Posted 20 February 2020 - 05:51 PM

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View Postjack_timber, on 20 February 2020 - 04:00 PM, said:

Yes micro lags also and here's me blaming wife/grandkids for hogging all the bandwidth....

I also restarted the router several times (especially because others in the house complained about wifi stability, though I'm on a wired connection) before asking around in matches.
I'm still hoping to soon see improvements, or more information regarding this from WG



Nazgarth #5 Posted 20 February 2020 - 05:54 PM

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View PostStorm_666, on 20 February 2020 - 05:51 PM, said:

I also restarted the router several times (especially because others in the house complained about wifi stability, though I'm on a wired connection) before asking around in matches.
I'm still hoping to soon see improvements, or more information regarding this from WG

 "Its a problem your end" - Any WG employee



unhappy__bunny #6 Posted 20 February 2020 - 07:18 PM

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Questions:

 

1 Has anyone who is certain it is a WG bothered to raise a ticket? 

2. Has anyone bothered to do any investigation, other than one who restarted his router?

 

While it could be a problem with the server, unlikely as more players would be reporting it, there are other possibilities. 

It could be your PC, possible but unlikely as multiple people report same problem.

It could be your Router, but again unlikely as above.

It could be your link to your ISP, again less likely as above.

It could be with your ISP's equipment, possible but still less likely unless all players affected use the same ISP.

It could be a link between your ISP, through all the other ISP's and hubs, up to the ISP WG connects to. Most likely as this contains many potential weak points. 

 

So what would help? Well if each player affected ran PingPlotter and uploaded a scan, that would help.

If they also posted their home city and their ISP, that would also help, because a picture of where the problem could lie would begin to build up. 



Storm_666 #7 Posted 20 February 2020 - 08:23 PM

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So what would help? Well if each player affected ran PingPlotter and uploaded a scan, that would help.

 

More details on this?



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View PostStorm_666, on 20 February 2020 - 10:23 PM, said:

More details on this?

 

First you go here.

https://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Servers

 

Then you open your MS-Dos and do tracert command

https://www.lifewire.com/tracert-command-2618101

 

There you go, now you know where the bad hop is or if its the WG servers.



Homer_J #9 Posted 20 February 2020 - 09:10 PM

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View PostNazgarth, on 20 February 2020 - 04:54 PM, said:

 "Its a problem your end" - Any WG employee

The funny thing is, quite often, when people can be bothered to provide a pingplotter trace, it is.  So if you are forced to guess, which is all you can do without evidence, then that is what you will say.

 

View PostIntruderFI, on 20 February 2020 - 08:04 PM, said:

 

First you go here.

https://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Servers

 

Then you open your MS-Dos and do tracert command

https://www.lifewire.com/tracert-command-2618101

 

There you go, now you know where the bad hop is or if its the WG servers.

 

Don't use Tracert unless you are living in 1982.

 

Download pingplotter

if you use EU1 point it at login.p1.worldoftanks.eu

if you use EU2 point it at login.p2.worldoftanks.eu

Let it run while you play a few battles.

Save the trace as an image and post it up here.



Storm_666 #10 Posted 20 February 2020 - 09:47 PM

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https://imgur.com/a/tMxH2HH
https://imgur.com/a/Iesvjpm
I'm having some trouble figuring out which of the graph's lines I should be looking at, because the first suggests everything's f*cked, while the second suggests the issue is somewhere down the line for where idk who to complain to :(

Edited by Storm_666, 20 February 2020 - 11:23 PM.


JocMeister #11 Posted 21 February 2020 - 06:23 AM

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Not having pingspikes but from I had a couple of cases of severe "rubberbandning" on EU2 for two days now. 

Storm_666 #12 Posted 21 February 2020 - 07:04 PM

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https://imgur.com/a/d7wVQ3h
https://imgur.com/a/WFcinz7
Any updates on this matter?

Edited by Storm_666, 21 February 2020 - 07:37 PM.


shikaka9 #13 Posted 21 February 2020 - 08:08 PM

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DDoS?

Venom7000 #14 Posted 21 February 2020 - 08:30 PM

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View PostNazgarth, on 20 February 2020 - 05:54 PM, said:

 "Its a problem your end" - Any WG employee

WG staff member: Oj, Anatoli. Something strange is happening.
Anatoli: What??
WG staff member: 90% of our player base are having problems with their bad routers.

19:32 Added after 2 minute

View PostHomer_J, on 20 February 2020 - 09:10 PM, said:

The funny thing is, quite often, when people can be bothered to provide a pingplotter trace, it is.  So if you are forced to guess, which is all you can do without evidence, then that is what you will say.

 

 

Don't use Tracert unless you are living in 1982.

 

Download pingplotter

if you use EU1 point it at login.p1.worldoftanks.eu

if you use EU2 point it at login.p2.worldoftanks.eu

Let it run while you play a few battles.

Save the trace as an image and post it up here.

 

I was told to leave it alone for 30minutes acc to official WG tech page. Nothing said about playing while using the program. As people told me that the pingplotter already acts as if im playing the game by non stop connecting to the desired server. Now Im confused. :amazed:


Edited by Venom7000, 21 February 2020 - 08:33 PM.


unhappy__bunny #15 Posted 21 February 2020 - 09:51 PM

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View Postshikaka9, on 21 February 2020 - 07:08 PM, said:

DDoS?

 

Er Nope. DDoS would render the server inactive for all users, meaning no one would connect. It has happened in the past and it very very noticeable. Most of the examples in this thread are small lag issues, probably caused by some ISP/node along the route from the user to the server. It only takes a bottleneck slowing the traffic down to cause a problem due to WoT being a Client/Server model.

 

View PostVenom7000, on 21 February 2020 - 07:30 PM, said:

WG staff member: Oj, Anatoli. Something strange is happening.
Anatoli: What??
WG staff member: 90% of our player base are having problems with their bad routers.

19:32 Added after 2 minute

 

I was told to leave it alone for 30minutes acc to official WG tech page. Nothing said about playing while using the program. As people told me that the pingplotter already acts as if im playing the game by non stop connecting to the desired server. Now Im confused. :amazed:

 

The reason for running PingPlotter while playing is that the moment you get an incident of lag you can take an image capture, so it is obvious to you that something has occurred.

 

View PostStorm_666, on 21 February 2020 - 06:04 PM, said:

 

Looks to me like the troubles start around the Frankfurt area. That looks like where the bottleneck is. 



Storm_666 #16 Posted 21 February 2020 - 10:38 PM

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What should I do with this information, in order to get the issue fixed? Reinstalled the game between those screenshots and your reply because, sh*t, might just fix it. Unsurprisingly it didn't.
There's a challenge going on and getting that grinding done ain't gonna work in these circumstances.


Edited by Storm_666, 21 February 2020 - 10:38 PM.


CmdRatScabies #17 Posted 21 February 2020 - 10:43 PM

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View PostStorm_666, on 21 February 2020 - 10:38 PM, said:

What should I do with this information, in order to get the issue fixed? 

Switch the Internet off and on again.



unhappy__bunny #18 Posted 22 February 2020 - 12:31 AM

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there is another website that could be useful in tracing problems.

 

Speedguide.net

 

You can enter the IP address of a target hub or server and check the latency. So you could get the IP address of the hub in Frankfurt, for example, and check the latency to it, then do the same with the WG server address and see if there is any significant difference. 

Also you can get the contact details for the hub owners so an email, with attached PingPlotter trace could be sent to them, explaining your problem and asking if they could help. Whether or not that would achieve anything I cannot say, but at least it could be worth a try. 



Homer_J #19 Posted 24 February 2020 - 06:01 PM

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View PostStorm_666, on 20 February 2020 - 08:47 PM, said:

https://imgur.com/a/tMxH2HH
https://imgur.com/a/Iesvjpm
I'm having some trouble figuring out which of the graph's lines I should be looking at, because the first suggests everything's f*cked, while the second suggests the issue is somewhere down the line for where idk who to complain to :(

 

500ms ping to your own router, I think you need to look no further than that.  Are you using wifi?






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