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clickys #1 Posted 24 February 2020 - 07:33 PM

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Greetings fellow tankers, 

 

I got a question , when you hover Binocular Telescope it sais that its gives you 25% on your viewrange up to 445 meters. That means that the cap is 445m and anything above that is not  working?

 

I know Coated Optics + Bino do not stack . But lets say you got both and your overall view range is 540, when bino is actiavated .That means its only 445m in reality ? 



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Indeed, max viewdistance is 445m. However,n the extra viewrange helps in spotting tanks through bushes & to overcome camo ratings on faraway tanks. A tank with a high camo rating cannot be seen within viewdistance, unless your extra viewrange is enough to overcome his camorating.

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As far as i know, any view range over the 445 cuts into the enemys camo value, so its still worth it to get as much as you can

Ancybot #4 Posted 24 February 2020 - 07:46 PM

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Every extra view range over 445 reduces camo value of enemy. You wont spot him from over 445 meters, but you will spot him from 445 meters instead of 400 for example

clickys #5 Posted 24 February 2020 - 07:48 PM

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Why binos saying +25% to view range for a stationary vehicle, up to 445m ? 

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View Postclickys, on 24 February 2020 - 07:48 PM, said:

Why binos saying +25% to view range for a stationary vehicle, up to 445m ? 

 

Because binocs only activate if you stand still for 3 seconds (which can feel like a long time ingame!) & up to 445 meters, because often the bonus will show it sees beyond 450 meters, even tho it will see nothing beyond 450 meters (game limitation).

But as said, above, the extra viewrange helps in spotting a camo'd tank at 400 meters (or 200 meters if he has higher camo)



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View PostUrQuan, on 24 February 2020 - 06:54 PM, said:

 

Because binocs only activate if you stand still for 3 seconds (which can feel like a long time ingame!) & up to 445 meters, because often the bonus will show it sees beyond 450 meters, even tho it will see nothing beyond 450 meters (game limitation).

But as said, above, the extra viewrange helps in spotting a camo'd tank at 400 meters (or 200 meters if he has higher camo)

Ok now make sense!



8126Jakobsson #8 Posted 24 February 2020 - 08:15 PM

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Really grinds my gears when various content creators talks about view range/are setting up their tanks and settle for 445m because "that's the max". Like cmon bro', the game starts at 445. That's the minimum. Get in the game.  

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View Postclickys, on 24 February 2020 - 06:56 PM, said:

Ok now make sense!

 

You know about the circles?

Inner line = your viewrange - middle = max view range 

outer is draw range

Happy place is between middle and outer where you can see but not BE seen (other tanks may be around to see you though-beware!)



mjs_89 #10 Posted 25 February 2020 - 01:39 AM

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[edited]

Edited by unhappy_bunny, 25 February 2020 - 11:21 AM.
inappropriate remarks


StronkiTonki #11 Posted 25 February 2020 - 08:45 AM

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Having more than 445 metres of viewrange will benefit your ability to spot through the enemy's camo values.

 

Let's say tank X has 25% camo, and 2 tanks are going to try and spot him, tank A and tank B.

 

Tank A has 445m viewrange.

Tank B had 500m viewrange.

 

They will both try to spot tank X with 25% camo.

 

When tank A tries to spot, the first 111,25 metres will get deducted by tank X's camo. Because 25% of 445 is 111,25.

So you do 445 - 111,25 = 333,75 metres. So tank A spots tank X at 333,75 metres.

 

When tank B tries to spot, the first 125 metres will get deducted by tank X's camo. Because 25% of 500 is 125.

So you do 500 - 125 = 375 metres. So tank B spots tank X at 375 metres.

 

You can clearly see that tank B managed to spot tank X from further away, because he had more view range.

 

However, the same rule still applies that you will never spot a tank beyond 445 metres.

So if a tank has 0% camo, and you have 500 metres view range, you still spot him at 445 metres, not 500.



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View Postmjs_89, on 25 February 2020 - 12:39 AM, said:

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Op asks a question, forumites give really good answers, op happy..... But there's always one who would rather demean than help. 



SharpBlue #13 Posted 25 February 2020 - 09:44 AM

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Watch this, then watch it again.

 

Seriously, this is probably the best thing you'll watch to improve your game.

 

I played the game for years and thousands of games before knowing pretty much any of this.

 

 



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View Postmjs_89, on 25 February 2020 - 03:39 AM, said:

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After how many battles you understood the answer of this question? 1k battles? 2k? 

Not all are the same, some go search in every corner to understand these. But some just play to perform well and have fun.

But some like you just joke and make fun of people.



TungstenHitman #15 Posted 25 February 2020 - 10:37 AM

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An enemy tanks camo % rating directly reduces your tanks stated view range by that percentage, so more view range is always better and is effectively negating that camo % reduction on your view range.

 

It doesn't take much camo to heavily reduce another tanks view range. Lets take a tank with a full but precise 445 view range. If an enemy tank has just 10% camo rating while moving, suddenly the tank with 445 view range can't see it until it gets to within 401 meters since his view range against that tank is going to be 10% less against that tank. So in order for that same tank with 445 view range to see that tank with 10% camo at full view range he will actually need almost 500 meters view range since then it will be 500 -10% = 450 

 

That wasn't even an example of a tank with good camo, some heavy tanks have 10% camo lol. So if you were to take a light tank, some of those have 40%+ moving camo rating so if you thought you were sitting pretty with precisely 445m view range, well you won't see that light tank even driving around in the open until he's within around 267 meters from you lol... so there you are driving around thinking things are good with 445m view range and you can't actually spot a light tank until you get to within 267 meters and that's if he's right in the open lol. More view range is ALWAYS better!

 

Around 450-460 view range means you will only actually spot most heavy tanks moving at full view range. Vs meds and other classes, that effective view range starts to drop away and sometimes dramatically so. 


Edited by TungstenHitman, 25 February 2020 - 10:42 AM.


Thlurp #16 Posted 25 February 2020 - 11:14 AM

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spotting range is maxed out at 445m

viewrange is not capped but reduced by enemy vehicle camo



Kartoshkaya #17 Posted 25 February 2020 - 03:38 PM

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Please explain it one more time

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View PostKartoshkaya, on 25 February 2020 - 02:38 PM, said:

Please explain it one more time

View PostThlurp, on 25 February 2020 - 10:14 AM, said:

spotting range is maxed out at 445m

viewrange is not capped but reduced by enemy vehicle camo

View Postihateclowns, on 24 February 2020 - 06:45 PM, said:

As far as i know, any view range over the 445 cuts into the enemys camo value, so its still worth it to get as much as you can

View PostAncybot, on 24 February 2020 - 06:46 PM, said:

Every extra view range over 445 reduces camo value of enemy. You wont spot him from over 445 meters, but you will spot him from 445 meters instead of 400 for example

 



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View PostStronkiTonki, on 25 February 2020 - 08:45 AM, said:

Having more than 445 metres of viewrange will benefit your ability to spot through the enemy's camo values.

 

Let's say tank X has 25% camo, and 2 tanks are going to try and spot him, tank A and tank B.

 

Tank A has 445m viewrange.

Tank B had 500m viewrange.

 

They will both try to spot tank X with 25% camo.

 

When tank A tries to spot, the first 111,25 metres will get deducted by tank X's camo. Because 25% of 445 is 111,25.

So you do 445 - 111,25 = 333,75 metres. So tank A spots tank X at 333,75 metres.

 

When tank B tries to spot, the first 125 metres will get deducted by tank X's camo. Because 25% of 500 is 125.

So you do 500 - 125 = 375 metres. So tank B spots tank X at 375 metres.

 

You can clearly see that tank B managed to spot tank X from further away, because he had more view range.

 

However, the same rule still applies that you will never spot a tank beyond 445 metres.

So if a tank has 0% camo, and you have 500 metres view range, you still spot him at 445 metres, not 500.


 

The explanation is not bad, but not entirely correct.

You have to know that only the value over the 50 meter proxy is reduced by the camouflage value of the opponent.
The 50 meter proxy are always fixed and are not reduced by the opponent's stealth value.


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One more time please




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