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Overlord93 #1 Posted 29 February 2020 - 12:10 AM

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Since with the whole tech tree cleanup it seems WG wants to make the game more convenient, so they should just remove subpar stoc guns.

Seriously with so much power creep and OP premium tanks, it's hard enough to play with "top" gun, with stoc guns it's just a nightmare that serves no other purpose than to make gameplay bad.

I guess one purpose is to tempt you to buy gold for free exp conversion, but i don't think WG needs that any more with so much better offers like premium tanks on sale.

 

Do you guys agree?



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No, I don't.

BravelyRanAway #3 Posted 29 February 2020 - 12:25 AM

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View PostOverlord93, on 28 February 2020 - 11:10 PM, said:

Do you guys agree?

No.



divsmo #4 Posted 29 February 2020 - 12:50 AM

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Overlord93 #5 Posted 29 February 2020 - 01:09 AM

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Why? You guys like playing with stoc tanks? I dont get it.

SupremeMaster #6 Posted 29 February 2020 - 02:03 AM

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First off, those modules are there to make you need extra xp thus making you purchase hold etc.

Second, in some tanks there are 2 or even 3 viable gun choices or 2 turret choices that give you more gameplay options so yea. And it is just not logical to want them changed they are like this for 10 years now.



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View PostOverlord93, on 29 February 2020 - 12:10 AM, said:

 

Do you guys agree?

 

erm, No?



NekoPuffer_PPP #8 Posted 29 February 2020 - 02:19 AM

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View PostOverlord93, on 29 February 2020 - 12:10 AM, said:

Since with the whole tech tree cleanup it seems WG wants to make the game more convenient, so they should just remove subpar stoc guns.

Seriously with so much power creep and OP premium tanks, it's hard enough to play with "top" gun, with stoc guns it's just a nightmare that serves no other purpose than to make gameplay bad.

I guess one purpose is to tempt you to buy gold for free exp conversion, but i don't think WG needs that any more with so much better offers like premium tanks on sale.

 

Do you guys agree?

 

No.

 

This:

View PostSupremeMaster, on 29 February 2020 - 02:03 AM, said:

First off, those modules are there to make you need extra xp thus making you purchase hold etc.

Second, in some tanks there are 2 or even 3 viable gun choices or 2 turret choices that give you more gameplay options so yea. And it is just not logical to want them changed they are like this for 10 years now.

 

For example, the Sherman Jumbo...stock turret with 105mm derp got me to 3 MoE on it. Stock turret is thicker, 105mm is more reliable than the 76mm.

 

OP, your suggestion would change the Jumbo.

Do not. Touch. My Jumbo.



DaniulSims #9 Posted 29 February 2020 - 02:39 AM

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So that WG would stop temping me from buying those sweet and juicy tier VIII premiums so that I'll easily grind credits and Free XP and won't make me cringe myself into playing horrible stock tanks??

 

No but really, I don't think I want it changed. Besides what's already been said, I've gotten too used to it by now.



mtnm #10 Posted 29 February 2020 - 03:19 AM

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Stockholm syndrome.

Overlord93 #11 Posted 29 February 2020 - 03:49 AM

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View PostNekoPuffer_PPP, on 29 February 2020 - 01:19 AM, said:

 

No.

 

This:

 

For example, the Sherman Jumbo...stock turret with 105mm derp got me to 3 MoE on it. Stock turret is thicker, 105mm is more reliable than the 76mm.

 

OP, your suggestion would change the Jumbo.

Do not. Touch. My Jumbo.

Did you even READ am i speaking freaking Chinese here?

I specifically said they should remove "subpar" and "uncompetitive" modules... Having options is nice, but having to grind trough a useless bb gun like on most tanks is not fun at all.

They should just make tanks work better out of the box, i still have PTSD from that Italian medium that's slower than a Maus when stoc.

 



StronkiTonki #12 Posted 29 February 2020 - 05:25 AM

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I grinded through all tech trees, and so should everyone else. :)

Nishi_Kinuyo #13 Posted 29 February 2020 - 11:45 AM

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Excuse me, but what do you think is part of Wargaming.net's business plan?

That people get the option of throwing money at them so they won't have to play those horrible combinations.



SastusBulbas #14 Posted 29 February 2020 - 01:15 PM

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Well one of todays streamers actually stated something I was posting years ago, some stock guns require premium ammo and even he could not pen a lower plate in game during one of his grinds so increasing AP pen and damage may help, but having high pen APCR with less damage would actually be a nerf to some stock grinds that simply get hobbled for XP due to being unable to effectively damage some of what they have to face.

 

 

Plenty of modules are shared or pointless, hell even I have forgot to ignore a top module that came stock on the next tank up, hate when I forget to look at the next tanks modules, no need for a tanks stock modules to be the next tanks starter modules with the MM balance and tier division.

Sort of pointless in some tanks. But the worst is stock guns that even with premium ammo have difficulties in the current meta, just as they did almost 10 yrs ago with the old MM.

 

No need for useless pea shooters or top tier radios being stock radio on the next unlocked tank, hobbled stock tanks that are detrimental to the team with more premiums or elite tanks, but I guess many simply spend money to skip the uncompetitive modules and WG dont have time to care.

 



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View PostOverlord93, on 29 February 2020 - 12:10 AM, said:

 

 

 

Do you guys agree?

 

Without the stock turret my Duck of Doom would simply be no Duck of Doom, so no, I don't agree.

 



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View PostOrkbert, on 29 February 2020 - 03:23 PM, said:

 

Without the stock turret my Duck of Doom would simply be no Duck of Doom, so no, I don't agree.

 

Oh you were quacking at me last week too.



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View PostNekoPuffer_PPP, on 29 February 2020 - 02:19 AM, said:

This:

 

For example, the Sherman Jumbo...stock turret with 105mm derp got me to 3 MoE on it. Stock turret is thicker, 105mm is more reliable than the 76mm.

 

OP, your suggestion would change the Jumbo.

Do not. Touch. My Jumbo.

 

Don't worry, tech tree change will do that instead. :trollface:



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View PostOverlord93, on 29 February 2020 - 12:10 AM, said:

I guess one purpose is to tempt you to buy gold for free exp conversion, but i don't think WG needs that any more with so much better offers like premium tanks on sale.

 

You never cut off an income stream because you also have another, you keep both. ;)



TankBuzzsaw #19 Posted 29 February 2020 - 02:35 PM

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Most of tanks have at least 2 good guns to choose for a different playstiles: sniping or assaulting, the former for long range and the latter for medium-close range.

Example: JagdPanther

I used the big gun with better pen and high alpha damage of 320, but the realod times was long, so if you missed a shot or if you were shooting a fast tank approaching you, you were basically a smoking wreck in seconds; I switched to the other one, less pen and less damage, but the fire rate was very good and only with that gun I managed to do my best game, achieving the Mark of Excellence I.

 

Tanks should have a choice of guns for different situations, so this idea of removing them is HERESY!



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View PostTruntea, on 29 February 2020 - 02:14 PM, said:

Don't worry, tech tree change will do that instead. :trollface:

 

Right... I must make sure that doesn't happen and is handled properly.

 






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