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Mac1eJU #1 Posted 02 March 2020 - 12:44 AM

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This tank been buffed before, so still not good at accuracy and reloading... Look at that tanks has no armor, so that tank should be buff again.

 

AP ammo is remove, change to APCR shell because this tank are certain sniper of the Leopard tech tree line, so good thing is to destroying the light tanks with high speed shell velocity.

 

Bold mean need buff

 

Speed: 55 / 22 km/h 

Ammo Type:APCR / APCR / HE

Penetration: 226 / 268 / 90  

Shell velocity: 1250 / 1500 / 1150

Aim time: 1.62

Dispersion: 0.30
Moving: 0.15
Tank traverse: 0.15

Turret traverse: 0.08

Reload: 7.19

RoF: 8.34

DPM: 2,085

Radio range: 750m

 

:facepalm:

 

Also Indien-Panzer need little buff.

 

 


Edited by Mac1eJU, 02 March 2020 - 12:44 AM.


Tealo #2 Posted 02 March 2020 - 01:01 AM

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View PostMac1eJU, on 01 March 2020 - 11:44 PM, said:

This tank been buffed before, so still not good at accuracy and reloading... Look at that tanks has no armor, so that tank should be buff again.

 

AP ammo is remove, change to APCR shell because this tank are certain sniper of the Leopard tech tree line, so good thing is to destroying the light tanks with high speed shell velocity.

 

Bold mean need buff

 

Speed: 55 / 22 km/h 

Ammo Type:APCR / APCR / HE

Penetration: 226 / 268 / 90  

Shell velocity: 1250 / 1500 / 1150

Aim time: 1.62

Dispersion: 0.30
Moving: 0.15
Tank traverse: 0.15

Turret traverse: 0.08

Reload: 7.19

RoF: 8.34

DPM: 2,085

Radio range: 750m

 

:facepalm:

 

Also Indien-Panzer need little buff.

 

 


:mellow: No! and besides a shell velocity of 1250 for a standard round at tier 8 is quite good! Even I whom can’t barely hit a barn, that’s from the inside has quite a good hit ratio in the Mutz.

  I play vanilla no mods :ohmy: So I don’t know what you are doing wrong :bush:
 


Edited by Tealo, 02 March 2020 - 02:34 AM.


Spurtung #3 Posted 02 March 2020 - 01:20 AM

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"Nerf what's bad for me, buff what I like."

 

 



NekoPuffer_PPP #4 Posted 02 March 2020 - 02:06 AM

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View PostTealo, on 02 March 2020 - 01:01 AM, said:

View PostNekoPuffer_PPP, on 27 February 2020 - 04:56 PM, said:

They might as well just remove chat altogether at this point...

 

 

View PostMac1eJU, on 01 March 2020 - 11:44 PM, said:

This tank been buffed before, so still not good at accuracy and reloading... Look at that tanks has no armor, so that tank should be buff again.

 

AP ammo is remove, change to APCR shell because this tank are certain sniper of the Leopard tech tree line, so good thing is to destroying the light tanks with high speed shell velocity.

 

Bold mean need buff

 

Speed: 55 / 22 km/h 

Ammo Type:APCR / APCR / HE

Penetration: 226 / 268 / 90  

Shell velocity: 1250 / 1500 / 1150

Aim time: 1.62

Dispersion: 0.30
Moving: 0.15
Tank traverse: 0.15

Turret traverse: 0.08

Reload: 7.19

RoF: 8.34

DPM: 2,085

Radio range: 750m

 

:facepalm:

 

Also Indien-Panzer need little buff.

 

 

 

 

:mellow: No! and besides a shell velocity of 1250 for a standard round at tier 8 is quite good! Even I whom can’t barely hit a barn, that’s from the inside has quite a good hit ratio in the Mutz.
 

  I play vanilla no mods :ohmy: So I don’t know what you are doing wrong :bush:
 

 

Wait what, what does my quote have to do with this thread?

 

...On topic: I bought the Schwarzpanzer a few weeks ago during Black Market sales and it plays just fine. It's not OP, but it doesn't really have any downsides either.


Edited by NekoPuffer_PPP, 02 March 2020 - 02:11 AM.


Tealo #5 Posted 02 March 2020 - 02:33 AM

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View PostNekoPuffer_PPP, on 02 March 2020 - 01:06 AM, said:

 

Wait what, what does my quote have to do with this thread?

 

...On topic: I bought the Schwarzpanzer a few weeks ago during Black Market sales and it plays just fine. It's not OP, but it doesn't really have any downsides either.

 
sorry nothing was using my phone must of accidentally tapped quote, I hate touch pads I edit it Sorry.
 



FatigueGalaxy #6 Posted 02 March 2020 - 10:31 PM

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Just give them 280 alpha (with current RoF) so they fit the tech tree better (since Leopards have more alpha on their 105 mm than average). No need for other changes.

Richthoffen #7 Posted 03 March 2020 - 09:27 AM

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I 'm missing the damage buff.. I figure 750 per shot should be correct

Zmago5000 #8 Posted 03 March 2020 - 09:38 AM

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I have 2 panzers 58 out of three and they both suc* :)

Mac1eJU #9 Posted 04 March 2020 - 08:06 PM

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View PostTealo, on 02 March 2020 - 12:01 AM, said:

 


:mellow: No! and besides a shell velocity of 1250 for a standard round at tier 8 is quite good! Even I whom can’t barely hit a barn, that’s from the inside has quite a good hit ratio in the Mutz.

  I play vanilla no mods :ohmy: So I don’t know what you are doing wrong :bush:
 

 

I played it's suck tank... Cause of aim time are not enough... Their T-44 has good aim, also progetto too.






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